cutting diplomatic ties with Qatar

Gulenmism is Pacifist Islam - and Islam is NOT PACIFIST - Islam believes in defensive jihad and protecting the innocent while your Gulenists will just take it lying down - not to mention your Guru is an American muppet, funded by zionists to pacify Turkey so it doesn't rebel against Israel !!!!

You made your choice - I am free from your 17 year old naivete!

Scimi

format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16

Gulenism is an Islamic civil society charity organization. Just because youre gulenist doesnt mean youre not a Muslim.

Here I propose a solution for you. Listen to the ideas they teach you which is in parrellel with Quran and ahadith. Dont listen when they are not. I was somehow within them aprx 20 years ago and it was exciting from Islamic pov. Atleast for a youngster who seeks a warm religious enviroment. But when you stop questioning it there arises danger. And this aplies to all groups

I extend the offer I made to Mustafa to you if you would be interested in sh'Allah!

Scimi

format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz

why have they done that to their Muslim brother????; may ALlah unite them again ameen!!!!

Brotherhood has become a joke. No one takes it seriously any more.

Stories of the Prophets is also available on google playstore, however, the physical book feels more serious.

Topic...
Trump went to middle east, started bossing them about and putting "terrorism" on them despite the fact that they are all losing soldiers in america's proxy wars, along with losing credibility amongst their armies, armies families, and populations, they all pointed at qatar which appears to be american central command for chaos in the region - clever move.
They all know that America's discrediting and priming them for overthrow like they discredited and primed saddam - just that America doesn't care about what it calls "terrorism" , it's leadership hates God and hates Islam - and uses "terrorism" as the vehicle. All manner of killing and suffering and chaos without fighting for Islam appears acceptable to those crooks in washington and that's despicably wrong.

Trump looks like a doofus for messing up the schemes so he tries a damage limitation in america and claims it was his initiative to isolate the country which hosts the american war machine lol.


Aah already seeing results from my mideast trip - by pi$sing off a whole load of already frustrated leaders because i wanna play hero at home amongst the breitbart and fox crowd - and isolating my biggest puppet in the region who is actually the main source of chaos that my country's government orchestrated.

Oh M.E leaders and Qatari leaders- saddam also thought he had america at his back whilst he played unjust tyrant in the region and angered Allah. It didn't avail him one bit against Allah when his criminal backers betrayed him.
FattaqooAllah ya uli al albaab.
In the end - our return is to Allah anyway so it's best to side with Him innit? Siding with the enemies of Allah loses us this world and the next.

format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person

Yesterday I suddenly thought about this minor sign.

"Two large groups, adhering to the same religious teaching, will fight each other with large numbers of casualties"

As Qatar gets Iran as it's ally as well as Turkey. Turkey is gonna send 5.000 troops to Qatar. In this minor sign in the past it was depicted as (sunni vs Shia) but doesn't necessarily mean like that. Rather just two large groups. However Allah knows best.

May Allah protect those who turn to Him. We know turkey has been a zionist agent for a while, and that the iranian administration has become weak minded after the replacement of ahmedinejad with a pro colonialist shill.
Allah knows best.

Anyone who even attempts to claim that they believe that the u.s.a government wish, plan, hope, or expect bloodshed to dwindle should honestly be called out as either a deceiver or a dupe.

The u.s.a government works through big budgets and has a very sophisticated accounting and secret intelligence apparatus,
One just needs to look at the military spending curve to realize that they don't wish or expect that the chaos they engineer will recede.

Maybe also check out it's links with the g.i.a in algeria and how a mercenary group was set up to discredit Islamic activism and control dissent when the first ever elections were stopped as soon as it became clear that the islamic political party would win.
If the french really gave them independence and allowed an election - who would prevent the election without secularist backing?

Armed Islamic Group (GIA): Having initiated terrorist activities in 1992 following Algiers refusal to accept a democratically elected Islamist government, the GIA has conducted multiple mass killings of civilians and assassinations of Algerian leaders. While present in areas such as Yemen, the GIA reportedly does not target the U.S. directly. However, it is possible that GIA splinter movements or personnel may become involved in anti-U.S. action.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...tc/modern.html

One is left seriously wondering how this ex-military analyst and current security consultant confidently assures his clients that it won't be anyone currently with the G.I.A......

The p.r in secularist news is more fictional than a hollywood movie. - anyone may research bell pottinger al qaeda.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/pentago...l-qaeda-videos



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Equatorial_Guinea_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt[/url]

http://www.factbehindfiction.com/ind...ickForsyth.htm


An unofficial responsibility for getting ‘a job’ for the team came to rest with Cat. Which wasn’t easy in these troubled times. ‘In fact he foresaw in the offing a nasty outbreak of peace’. This troubled Shannon,....


https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/war/

http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/economic

This whole diplomatic crises was just so bizarre and yet not surprising at the same time.

The reasons for cutting ties with Qatar are - I wouldn't say weak because some of the accusations are pretty serious - but they need to be given a lot more thought..

Qatar may have supported terrorism - well to be honest most countries have supported what are considered terrorist organisations in the past. Those hacks - again, things like this always happen, and usually just precisely before something important is coming up. As for Al-Jazeera and its emails - since when has any media outlet been the epitome of neutrality or political correctness. And don't get me started on Donald Trump - I thought we'd learned by now he'll try to stir up chaos wherever he sets foot, you can't seriously take advice on 'cooperation and supporting world peace' from him.

I hope everything is resolved quickly and peacefully though. In this Ummah we need cooperation and dialogue, not yet more division.

All those countries who blame Qatar for funding terrorism had funded it themselves previously. This is the hypocrisy of politics. I think the real reason is Qatar is trying to act on it's own apart from the Arab league. Oil is gonna finish and Arabs are anxious about it.

format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian

All those countries who blame Qatar for funding terrorism had funded it themselves previously. This is the hypocrisy of politics. I think the real reason is Qatar is trying to act on it's own apart from the Arab league. Oil is gonna finish and Arabs are anxious about it.

All those middle eastern states and some Islamic military groups have been set against each other- put in situations of blackmail, had mercenary militant groups and neighbours set upon them, and forced to hoard weapons purchased from the u.s.a and russia through indications, hints, and threats of arming a regional leader with differences, whilst the arming of the zionist state is continually used to keep the arms race running.
Below is a small list of some of the more overt actions in which the u.s.a has been implicated and in most cases found guilty by the judges and investigators, I only add clippings of the details since more details are available in the link:

United States and state-sponsored terrorism.

The United States has at various times in recent history provided support to terrorist and paramilitary organizations around the world. It has also provided assistance to numerous authoritarian regimes that have used state terrorism as a tool of repression.[1][2]

United States support for non-state terrorists has been prominent in Latin America, the Middle-East, and Southern Africa.[1] From 1981 to 1991, the United States provided weapons, training, and extensive financial and logistical support to the Contra rebels in Nicaragua, who used terror tactics in their fight against the Nicaraguan government.[3] At various points the United States also provided training, arms, and funds to terrorists among the Cuban exiles, such as Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada Carriles.

Various reasons have been provided to justify such support. These include destabilizing political movements that might have aligned with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, including popular democratic and socialist movements.[4] Such support has also formed a part of the war on drugs.[2] Support was also geared toward ensuring a conducive environment for American corporate interests abroad, especially when these interests came under threat from democratic regimes.[4][5]

Kashmir Princess incident

On 11 April 1955 the “Kashmir Princess,” an Air India Constellation passenger airliner, was damaged in midair by a bomb explosion and crashed into the South China Sea while en route from Mumbai, India, and Hong Kong to Jakarta, Indonesia.[6] Sixteen of those on board were killed, while three survived.[7][8] The explosion had been caused by a time bomb placed aboard the aircraft by a Kuomintang secret agent who was attempting to assassinate Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai, who had been scheduled to board the plane to attend the conference but had changed his travel plans at the last minute.

When police began to focus on Chow Tse-ming, a janitor for Hong Kong Aircraft Engineering Co., he was plucked away to Taiwan on a CIA-owned Civil Air Transport aircraft.


Years of Lead

The Years of Lead was a period of socio-political turmoil in Italy that lasted from the late 1960s into the early 1980s. This period was marked by a wave of terrorism carried out by both right- and left-wing paramilitary groups. It was concluded that the former were supported by the United States as a strategy of tension.



Piazza Fontana bombing

The Piazza Fontana Bombing was a terrorist attack that occurred on December 12, 1969 at 16:37, when a bomb exploded at the headquarters of Banca Nazionale dell'Agricoltura (National Agrarian Bank) in Piazza Fontana in Milan killing 17 people and wounding 88. The same afternoon, three more bombs were detonated in Rome and Milan, and another was found undetonated.[20]

In 1998, Milan judge Guido Salvini indicted U.S. Navy officer David Carrett on charges of political and military espionage for his participation in the Piazza Fontana bombing et al. Salvini also opened up a case against Sergio Minetto, an Italian official of the U.S.-NATO intelligence network, and "collaboratore di giustizia" Carlo Digilio (Uncle Otto), who served as CIA coordinator in Northeastern Italy in the sixties and seventies. The newspaper la Repubblica reported that Carlo Rocchi, CIA's man in Milan was discovered in 1995 searching for information concerning Operation Gladio.[15]

A 2000 parliamentary report published by the center-left Olive Tree coalition claimed that "U.S. intelligence agents were informed in advance about several right-wing terrorist bombings, including the December 1969 Piazza Fontana bombing in Milan and the Piazza della Loggia bombing in Brescia five years later, but did nothing to alert the Italian authorities or to prevent the attacks from taking place." It also alleged that Pino Rauti (current leader of the MSI Fiamma-Tricolore party), a journalist and founder of the far-right Ordine Nuovo (New Order) subversive organization, received regular funding from a press officer at the U.S. embassy in Rome. "So even before the 'stabilising' plans that Atlantic circles had prepared for Italy became operational through the bombings, one of the leading members of the subversive right was literally in the pay of the American embassy in Rome", the report says.[21]

Paolo Emilio Taviani, the Christian Democrat co-founder of Gladio (NATO's stay-behind anti-Communist organization in Italy), told investigators that the SID military intelligence service was about to send a senior officer from Rome to Milan to prevent the bombing, but decided to send a different officer from Padua in order to put the blame on left-wing anarchists. Taviani also alleged in an August 2000 interview to Il Secolo XIX newspaper: "It seems to me certain, however, that agents of the CIA were among those who supplied the materials and who muddied the waters of the investigation."[22]

Guido Salvini said "The role of the Americans was ambiguous, halfway between knowing and not preventing and actually inducing people to commit atrocities."[23]

According to Vincenzo Vinciguerra, the terrorist attack was supposed to push then Interior Minister Mariano Rumor to declare a state of emergency.[15]


Kidnapping attempt and assassination of General René Schneider



The Contras

From 1979 to 1990, the United States provided financial, logistical and military support to the Contra rebels in Nicaragua, who used terrorist tactics in their war against the Nicaraguan government[3][27][28][29][30][31] and carried out more than 1300 terrorist attacks.[32] This support persisted despite widespread knowledge of the human rights violations committed by the Contras.[28]


The U.S. government explicitly planned to back the Contras, various rebel groups collectively that were formed in response to the rise of the Sandinistas, as a means to damage the Nicaraguan economy and force the Sandinista government to divert its scarce resources toward the army and away from social and economic programs.[46]


The United States began to support Contra activities against the Sandinista government by December 1981, with the CIA at the forefront of operations.[47] The CIA provided the Contras with planning and operational direction and assistance, weapons, food, and training, in what was described as the "most ambitious" covert operation in more than a decade.[48][49] One of the purposes the CIA hoped to achieve by these operations was an aggressive and violent response from the Sandinista government which in turn could be used as a pretext for proper military actions.[50]


In the fiscal year 1984, the U.S. Congress approved $24 million in contra aid.[47] However, the Reagan administration lost a lot of support for its Contra policy after CIA involvement in the mining of Nicaraguan ports became public knowledge, and a report of the Bureau of Intelligence and Research commissioned by the State Department found that Reagan had exaggerated claims about Soviet interference in Nicaragua.[47][61] Congress cut off all funds for the contras in 1985 by the third Boland Amendment.[47][62] As a result, the Reagan administration sought to provide funds through other sources.[63] Between 1984 and 1986, $34 million was routed through third countries and $2.7 million through private sources.[64] These funds were run through the National Security Council, by Lt. Col. Oliver North, who created an organization called "The Enterprise" which served as the secret arm of the NSC staff and had its own airplanes, pilots, airfield, ship, and operatives.[64] It also received assistance from other government agencies, especially from CIA personnel in Central America.[64] These efforts culminated in the Iran-Contra Affair of 1986–1987, which facilitated funding for the Contras through the proceeds of arms sales to Iran. Money was also raised for the Contras through drug trafficking, which the United States was aware of.[65] Senator John Kerry's 1988 Committee on Foreign Relations report on Contra drug links concluded that "senior U.S. policy makers were not immune to the idea that drug money was a perfect solution to the Contras' funding problems".[66]

Another common theme the administration played on was the idea of returning Nicaragua to Democracy, which analysts characterized as "curious," because Nicaragua had been a U.S. supported dictatorship prior to the Sandinista revolution, and had never had a democracy
.

Leslie Cockburn writes that the CIA, and therefore indirectly the U.S. government and President Reagan, were encouraging Contra terrorism by issuing the manual to the contras violating Reagan's own Presidential Directive.

The manual, Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare, clearly advocated a strategy of terror as the means to victory over the hearts and minds of Nicaraguans. Chapter headings such as ‘Selective Use of Violence for propagandistic Effects' and ‘Implicit and Explicit Terror' made that fact clear enough. ... The little booklet thus violated President Reagan's own Presidential Directive 12333, signed in December 1981, which prohibited any U.S. government employee—including the CIA—from having anything to do with assassinations.[80]


The ICJ found that the U.S. had encouraged violations of international humanitarian law by assisting paramilitary actions in Nicaragua. The court also criticized the production of a manual on psychological warfare by the U.S. and its dissemination of the Contras.[82] The manual, amongst other things, provided advice on rationalizing the killing of civilians, and on targeted murder. The manual also included an explicit description of the use of "implicit terror."[82]

Having initially argued that the ICJ lacked jurisdiction in the case, the United States withdrew from the proceedings in 1985.[82] The court eventually ruled in favor of Nicaragua, and judged that the United States was required to pay reparations for its violation of International law.[82] The U.S. used its veto on the United Nations Security Council to block the enforcement of the ICJ judgement, and thereby prevented Nicaragua from obtaining any compensation.




Cuban exiles

United States government provided support to several Cuban exiles after the success of the Cuban Revolution in 1959, especially under the administration of George H. W. Bush. Among the most prominent of these were Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada Carriles, who were implicated in the 1976 bombing of a Cuban plane. Bosch was also held to be responsible for 30 other terrorist acts, while Carriles was a former CIA agent convicted of numerous terrorist acts committed while he was linked to the agency.[84][85][86][87] Other Cuban exiles involved in terrorist acts, Jose Dionisio Suarez and Virgilio Paz Romero, two other Cuban exiles who assassinated the Chilean diplomat Orlando Letelier in Washington in 1976, were also released by the administration of George H.W. Bush.[88]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...ored_terrorism


And I believe most of us are aware of OPERATION NORTHWOODS.

The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom recently remarked, “by any measure the U.S. has long used terrorism.
In 1978-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the U.S. would be in violation.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america...-group/5402881


Here's an interesting method used to propose or muse over think tank policy by using a discarded ally victim state as the subject of context:
(For those who know how the Nidal organization was used as a tool and excuse for repression during the washington-saddam alliance - and to bomb Badghdad in 1992 during the end of Saddam's reign).


Journal
Cambridge Review of International Affairs
Volume 27, 2014 - Issue 3


Governmental support for nonstate actors designated as terrorist organizations is not only a policy that carries significant international and domestic costs; it further poses a theoretical challenge to structural realist thinking about alliance politics in international relations. By debating, firstly, the utility of terrorism as a means to influence systemic power distribution, and, secondly, the functional equality of nonstate actors, this article considers under what conditions state sponsored terrorism occurs despite the expected security loss. Drawing on the example of Iraq between 1979 and 1991, the assumption that the interplay of external security challenges—as well as domestic dissent as an intervening, unit-level factor—affects governmental alignments with terrorist groups will be reviewed in the cases of the Iranian Mujahedin al-Khalq Organization, the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and armed Palestinian factions.

The article concludes by addressing whether state sponsorship of terrorism is inevitably linked to policy failure or whether it could be seen as a good investment to balance external and internal security challenges successfully.

Additional author information

Magdalena Kirchner
Magdalena Kirchner (MA, Heidelberg) is a PhD candidate in political science at the University of Heidelberg. Her research interests include International Relations Theory and Foreign Policy Analysis in the context of political violence and terrorism as well as state-society relations in the Middle East. She has taught political science at the University of Heidelberg and serves as editor of the German Armed Forces journal Security Policy Reader.

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...nalCode=ccam20

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A senior Palestinian official in Ramallah, on the West Bank, described the circumstances as "mysterious". The official said he had been told he had committed suicide but was unable to explain how this was consistent with a report that he had suffered three gunshot wounds.


Mystery death of Abu Nidal, once the world's most wanted terrorist
Leader of group that struck across globe is found shot dead

Ewen MacAskill, diplomatic editor, Richard Nelsson, research department
Tuesday 20 August 2002 01.54 BST

Abu Nidal, leader of a renegade Palestinian terrorist group responsible for a string of atrocities in the 1980s and 1990s, has died from gunshot wounds in mysterious circumstances in a flat in Baghdad, according to Palestinian and other sources. He was 65.
Abu Nidal's group carried out hijackings, attacks on synagogues, kidnappings and assassinations of diplomats. His targets included the US, Israel, Britain, France, Jordan and many other countries, as well as followers of the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat. About 900 were killed, including eight Britons.

Members of his group, the Fatah-Revolutionary Council, better known as the Abu Nidal Organisation, said yesterday that he had committed suicide because he was suffering from cancer.

A senior Palestinian official in Ramallah, on the West Bank, described the circumstances as "mysterious". The official said he had been told he had committed suicide but was unable to explain how this was consistent with a report that he had suffered three gunshot wounds.

His death has been expected since news emerged in 1998 that he had been admitted to a clinic in Cairo.

Abu Nidal is a nom de guerre for Sabri al-Banna and which means Father of the Struggle. The US state department once termed his group "the most dangerous terrorist organisation in existence".

He was a terrorist mercenary, who worked, at various times, on behalf of Iraq, Syria and Libya and, it is claimed, even Israel.

Yossi Melman, an Israeli author, who wrote a biography of Abu Nidal, said his death could be the result of illness but he could also have been assassinated, perhaps by one of his own men in the internal feuds for which his organisation is known or perhaps by an Iraqi government fearful that he knew too much about its operations.

But his presence in Baghdad was not considered an embarrassment to the Iraqi government at a time when it is facing a threatened US invasion.

The US administration, though desperately seeking to link the Iraqi president, Saddam Hussein, to terrorism, has at no time made an issue of Abu Nidal's presence in the Iraqi capital. This may be, in part, because Abu Nidal's group is no longer operational.


He moved to Baghdad about 18 months ago after he feared that the Egyptian government would arrest him in hospital and hand him over to western countries.

An Iraqi affairs specialist based in Beirut, Khairallah Khairallah, said Abu Nidal's relations with the Iraqi government were strained. The Iraqi government fell out with him in 1991 during the Gulf War when he sided with with Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/20/israel

(Kuwait and Saudi Arabia ....or America????? One is left to wonder.



It's no easy task for the government of tiny Qatar to tell the u.s.a to remove u.s.a military bases from qatar and be done with kaafir dajjal u.s and british troops, along with blackwater mercenaries landing on it's soil and flying back out in choppers and in convoys flying shahadah flags with the aim of increasing confusion and chaos in the region and globally. It's useful to study the story of Barseesah the monk at this point.

Been reading up a bit more about the news and history and so far i see it, it has a lot to do with Iran.

What has happened in the recent history that we can connect the dot of Qatar pressuring to it? Well we know of Trump visit. The whole Arab-NATO plan and really start pressuring Iran. If Iran falls, Syria falls. If Syria falls, as well as the Houtis, hamas, hezbollah lose and not to forget Russia loses their harbor in Tartus. Qatar however made clear that the on the other hand did not want to join this coalition against Iran.

So step by step by directly pressuring Qatar, however looking at it, Qatar isn't gonna budge as now a sort of new alliance has been created..Turkey + Iran + Qatar. However if this new alliance for sure becomes a fact, the next step the Arab countries gonna take, will DEVASTATE the Middle East. That step, i will keep for myself something for you to ponder about.