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    Americans are interested in more 'regime' change'. This time in Venezuela, short video that will get you up to speed on the situation (American perspective).

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    Donald Trump may be the main thing keeping Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro going...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    I am sure the West has nothing to do with Venezuela's hyper inflation. Just like the West has nothing to do with Iran's hyperinflation, or Turkey's inflation. Or Russia's 4 year long recession.

    What a coincidence that illiberal countries who oppose the West are the only ones whose economy ends up struggling. Very interesting indeed.

    I wasn't born yesterday.
    I encourage you to investigate Venezuela's monetary policy more closely.

    Chavez assumed strict control over Venezuelan currency in the early 2000s. Hyperinflation began during that period due to government mismanagement, and it continues today. Maduro recently pinned the new Bolivar (devalued at something like 95%) to his own cryptocurrency, the Petro. The big bad West did not enforce any of those decisions.

    What a coincidence that autocratic governments that assume absolute control over their currencies and start printing money like crazy tend to experience hyperinflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanEdge View Post
    I encourage you to investigate Venezuela's monetary policy more closely.

    Chavez assumed strict control over Venezuelan currency in the early 2000s. Hyperinflation began during that period due to government mismanagement, and it continues today. Maduro recently pinned the new Bolivar (devalued at something like 95%) to his own cryptocurrency, the Petro. The big bad West did not enforce any of those decisions.

    What a coincidence that autocratic governments that assume absolute control over their currencies and start printing money like crazy tend to experience hyperinflation.

    Dan Edge
    Yet autocratic rulers backed by the West flourish.

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    Re: Venezuela - regime change?

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousonTruth View Post
    I am sure the West has nothing to do with Venezuela's hyper inflation. Just like the West has nothing to do with Iran's hyperinflation, or Turkey's inflation. Or Russia's 4 year long recession.

    What a coincidence that illiberal countries who oppose the West are the only ones whose economy ends up struggling. Very interesting indeed.

    I wasn't born yesterday.
    Yet those countries' situation is still not comparable to Venezuela, they don't have shortages on basic goods and crazy high crime rates.Apparently the Venezuelan regime succeeded to mismanage their country on a Mugabe's Zimbabwe level. That's really an achievment.
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    Yet those countries' situation is still not comparable to Venezuela, they don't have shortages on basic goods and crazy high crime rates.Apparently the Venezuelan regime succeeded to mismanage their country on a Mugabe's Zimbabwe level. That's really an achievment.
    1 dollar is worth around 150,000 Iranian dial I think. So Iran's economy is in very bad shape. Just like Venezuela Iran kept itself alive by allying with certain states.

    The problem is not that socialism or Islamic systems are inherently bad. Problem is the West is home of the Banks and controls most of the world's wealth. So they can apply economic pressure to make any system look bad.

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    Re: Venezuela - regime change?

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    More on the problems of Venezuela.



    More recent.



    1 dollar is worth around 150,000 Iranian dial I think. So Iran's economy is in very bad shape. Just like Venezuela Iran kept itself alive by allying with certain states.

    The problem is not that socialism or Islamic systems are inherently bad. Problem is the West is home of the Banks and controls most of the world's wealth. So they can apply economic pressure to make any system look bad.
    Brother I agree but its not black and white. The economic policy followed by recent governments in Venuzuela has been very very problematic but this doesnt justify outside powers (no doubt being led by the USA) installing its own lapdog and taking over its economy in the name of 'freedom' and 'democracy', 'human rights' etc etc ad nauseum.

    The routine gets old after a while and many are wise to it.



    There has to be a solution that benifets the people of Venezuela, its neigbours and the surrounding region. If outside powers genuinely want to help then good but if not then they should stay away.
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    Re: Venezuela - regime change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
    Salaam

    More on the problems of Venezuela.



    More recent.





    The economic policy followed by recent governments in Venuzuela has been very very problematic but this doesnt justify outside powers (no doubt being led by the USA) installing its own lapdog and taking over its economy in the name of 'freedom' and 'democracy', 'human rights' etc etc ad nauseum.

    The routine gets old after a while and many are wise to it.

    I agree that United States involvement is undesirable, but how can one consider Guaidó anyone's lap dog? Venezuelans elected him to the position that he is in right now (Head of Assembly). The Venezuelans protesting all over the world and in Venezuela want him to be President.

    Venezuelans will not let Maduro stay in power, and I doubt Maduro is going down without a fight. Hopefully, the Venezuelan military will depose him on their own. But if they don't, and the fighting starts, then a lot of innocent people are going to get killed.

    If that happens, then the United States may well send it's 5,000 battle ready troops from Colombia into Venezuela. We could defeat the Loyalists within a week. It wouldn't be like Afghanistan because there is no popular support for Maduro (his approval ratings were below 20% during the 2018 elections, yet he still won, go figure). Guaidó would take over and they could start getting to work healing their country. The 3 million+ refugees could start to come home.

    If civil war starts in Venezuela, are we to do nothing, even if Venezuelans ask us to intervene? It is a complex moral question to be sure. My view: we stay out of it unless and until violence starts to erupt. If Maduro starts murdering his own people to protect his position of power, then I would support US intervention.

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    Re: Venezuela - regime change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
    Salaam

    Americans are interested in more 'regime' change'. This time in Venezuela, short video that will get you up to speed on the situation (American perspective).

    Blurb

    Donald Trump may be the main thing keeping Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro going...

    This is what I've been saying too. A century of US dominance of Latin America through various dirty means has led to US influence having become utterly toxic. When Trump first murmured about pulling off a regime change in 2017, the Venezuelan opposition had to go overboard to denounce and condemn any such thing, knowing fully well that being seen as standing up to US domination is good for Maduro's approval rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanEdge View Post
    I encourage you to investigate Venezuela's monetary policy more closely.

    Chavez assumed strict control over Venezuelan currency in the early 2000s. Hyperinflation began during that period due to government mismanagement, and it continues today. Maduro recently pinned the new Bolivar (devalued at something like 95%) to his own cryptocurrency, the Petro. The big bad West did not enforce any of those decisions.

    What a coincidence that autocratic governments that assume absolute control over their currencies and start printing money like crazy tend to experience hyperinflation.

    Dan Edge


    Ummm, hows abouts the sanctions and the cia money printing, the worthless "bank of" de la rue notes which most international money exchangers on the streets refuse to accept, and the constant attacks via corrupt sellout mafia politicians who meet in secret with the american government, similar stuff happened in zimbabwe when he attempted to nationalize the diamond mines after stating that previous corrupt administrations were shills who had simply been doing the mir jafar ali khan on behalf of eic - oh the way the rothschild associated diamond companies went beserk after he let his common people into the diamond fields .... but then he was forced to back doen and they were ripped apart by helicopter gunships before the british companies retook control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanEdge View Post
    I agree that United States involvement is undesirable, but how can one consider Guaidó anyone's lap dog? Venezuelans elected him to the position that he is in right now (Head of Assembly). The Venezuelans protesting all over the world and in Venezuela want him to be President.

    Venezuelans will not let Maduro stay in power, and I doubt Maduro is going down without a fight. Hopefully, the Venezuelan military will depose him on their own. But if they don't, and the fighting starts, then a lot of innocent people are going to get killed.

    If that happens, then the United States may well send it's 5,000 battle ready troops from Colombia into Venezuela. We could defeat the Loyalists within a week. It wouldn't be like Afghanistan because there is no popular support for Maduro (his approval ratings were below 20% during the 2018 elections, yet he still won, go figure). Guaidó would take over and they could start getting to work healing their country. The 3 million+ refugees could start to come home.

    If civil war starts in Venezuela, are we to do nothing, even if Venezuelans ask us to intervene? It is a complex moral question to be sure. My view: we stay out of it unless and until violence starts to erupt. If Maduro starts murdering his own people to protect his position of power, then I would support US intervention.

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    yep the west intervenes, and everyone lives happily ever after. lol

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    Re: Venezuela - regime change?

    another day, another money & power thing as usual..

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    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/ne...TCe0DG-7uyrvqk

    Juan Guaido, Venezuela's US-backed self-declared president, said he was working to restore ties with Israel a decade after the country severed relations with the Jewish state in solidarity with the Palestinian people.


    Guaido said "I am very happy to report that the process of stabilising relations with Israel is at its height," in a quote pulled by Reuters from an Israel Hayom interview.


    Israel joined the United States, Canada and a host of South American countries "in recognising the new leadership in Venezuela" last month. 50 countries now recognise the hopeful leader.

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    Re: Venezuela - regime change?

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    Another update, oh dear not him.



    Being questioned on his record.







    'History doesnt repeat but it does rhyme'. A look at his past record. This was during the 1980s.



    The drums of war are beating.



    USA concern for defending bringing 'freedom' and 'democracy' has always been very selective.



    Wasnt expecting this cracks in the MSM narrative.

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    Another update

    Blurb

    We go to Caracas, Venezuela, for an update on the escalating standoff between President Nicolás Maduro and opposition leader and self-proclaimed president Juan Guaidó. Guaidó claims he is preparing to deliver humanitarian aid from the Colombian border Saturday. Maduro has rejected the plan, saying the effort is part of a broader attempt to overthrow his regime.

    This comes as Trump’s special envoy to Venezuela and right-wing hawk, Elliott Abrams, is leading a U.S. delegation traveling by military aircraft to the Colombian border, supposedly to help deliver the aid. The United Nations, the Red Cross and other relief organizations have refused to work with the U.S. on delivering that aid to Venezuela, which they say is politically motivated. We speak with Venezuelan sociologist Edgardo Lander, a member of the Citizen’s Platform in Defense of the Constitution.

    “This certainly is not humanitarian aid, and it’s not oriented with any humanitarian aims,” Lander says. “This is clearly a coup carried out by the United States government with its allies, with the Lima Group and the extreme right wing in Venezuela.”


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    Like to share. Another perspective on Venezuela's economic problems.



    Letter from Caracas

    If there is one symbol of the mess our country is in, it is state oil company Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA)m which produces and exports most of our oil, earns almost all our money and is also one of our biggest borrowers, with debts around $40bn.

    In its heyday around 30 years ago, PDVSA was considered the worlds best run national oil company; it is now among the worst - and there is plenty of competition.

    Our reserves surpass those of Saudi Arabia; but years of mismangament, corruption and chronic underinvestment have taken their toll, with oil production around half what it was only three years ago. Output of 1.1, barrels a day look certain to drop further now that Donald Trump has hit PDVSA with sanctions targeting exports to the US (equivalent to more than a thrid of production) and freezing the assets of its US oil refeining subsidiary, Citgo. the longer our lumbering president Nicolas Maduro clings to power, the more likely the US will tighten these sanctions.

    At a time of crises, you'd think Maduro might call upon people with experience to turn the company around and get production back on its feet. But no: the person running PDVSA and the oil ministry is General Manuel Quevedo, who has more experience cracking the skulls of opposition protestors than getting oil out of the ground. He speaks no English and railes to journalists at Opec meetings about 'neo imperialists' ie US - trying to steal our oil wealth.

    PDVSA is now effectively under the armys control, with former company executives either in the slammer on corruption charges or forced to flee the country. Exiles include PDVSA former long serving overlord, Rafael Ramirez, who did a stint as Venezuelas ambasador to the UN, is hiding somewhere in Europe and is plotting a comeback if Maduro is swept from power. But he too, has been tainted by corruption: last year a judge in Andorra charged his cousin, former PDVSA exec Diego Salazar, with masterminding a scheme to launder $2bn from the company between 2004 and 2013. Ramirez was, somehow not involved.

    Oil could be a decisive factor in how long Maduro, ostracised by the US and most of Europe and Latin America, is able to hang on. Russia backs Maduro, as much for commercial reasons as political ones. Over the past 5 years state controlled giant Rosneft (in which BP is a minority shareholder) has been awarded several lucrative oil production assets. Rosneft has also lent PDVSA $6.5bn and is now being repaid in oil.

    That debt has been halved, but the Russians fear regime change in Caracas could leave them out of pocket, and isolated, as the US oil companies move in. China, too, has big exposure to Venezuela and is also being repaid in oil - leaving PDVSA with previous little cash of its own.

    Most PDVSA's outstanding debt is to bondholders, which include US heavyweights such as Goldman Sachs. there dream is that Maduro makes a quick exit, US backed upstart Juan Guaido takes over, and PDVSA becomes great - and a great customer - again.

    As US sanctions kick in, PDVSA could normally rely on firendly trading firms to get around the restrictions. But maybe not this time. Last March, a trust representing PDVSA filed a lawsuit in Miami against several prominent trading firms, including the top three of Vitol, Glencore and Trafigura, accusing them of colluding in a scheme to rig oil supply tenders conducted by PDVSA. the traders deny any wrongdoing, of course, and their lawyers say the case should be thrown out because the US no longer recognises Maduro as president.

    PE Issue 1490
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
    Salaam

    Like to share. Another perspective on Venezuela's economic problems.



    Letter from Caracas

    If there is one symbol of the mess our country is in, it is state oil company Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA)m which produces and exports most of our oil, earns almost all our money and is also one of our biggest borrowers, with debts around $40bn.

    In its heyday around 30 years ago, PDVSA was considered the worlds best run national oil company; it is now among the worst - and there is plenty of competition.

    Our reserves surpass those of Saudi Arabia; but years of mismangament, corruption and chronic underinvestment have taken their toll, with oil production around half what it was only three years ago. Output of 1.1, barrels a day look certain to drop further now that Donald Trump has hit PDVSA with sanctions targeting exports to the US (equivalent to more than a thrid of production) and freezing the assets of its US oil refeining subsidiary, Citgo. the longer our lumbering president Nicolas Maduro clings to power, the more likely the US will tighten these sanctions.

    At a time of crises, you'd think Maduro might call upon people with experience to turn the company around and get production back on its feet. But no: the person running PDVSA and the oil ministry is General Manuel Quevedo, who has more experience cracking the skulls of opposition protestors than getting oil out of the ground. He speaks no English and railes to journalists at Opec meetings about 'neo imperialists' ie US - trying to steal our oil wealth.

    PDVSA is now effectively under the armys control, with former company executives either in the slammer on corruption charges or forced to flee the country. Exiles include PDVSA former long serving overlord, Rafael Ramirez, who did a stint as Venezuelas ambasador to the UN, is hiding somewhere in Europe and is plotting a comeback if Maduro is swept from power. But he too, has been tainted by corruption: last year a judge in Andorra charged his cousin, former PDVSA exec Diego Salazar, with masterminding a scheme to launder $2bn from the company between 2004 and 2013. Ramirez was, somehow not involved.

    Oil could be a decisive factor in how long Maduro, ostracised by the US and most of Europe and Latin America, is able to hang on. Russia backs Maduro, as much for commercial reasons as political ones. Over the past 5 years state controlled giant Rosneft (in which BP is a minority shareholder) has been awarded several lucrative oil production assets. Rosneft has also lent PDVSA $6.5bn and is now being repaid in oil.

    That debt has been halved, but the Russians fear regime change in Caracas could leave them out of pocket, and isolated, as the US oil companies move in. China, too, has big exposure to Venezuela and is also being repaid in oil - leaving PDVSA with previous little cash of its own.

    Most PDVSA's outstanding debt is to bondholders, which include US heavyweights such as Goldman Sachs. there dream is that Maduro makes a quick exit, US backed upstart Juan Guaido takes over, and PDVSA becomes great - and a great customer - again.

    As US sanctions kick in, PDVSA could normally rely on firendly trading firms to get around the restrictions. But maybe not this time. Last March, a trust representing PDVSA filed a lawsuit in Miami against several prominent trading firms, including the top three of Vitol, Glencore and Trafigura, accusing them of colluding in a scheme to rig oil supply tenders conducted by PDVSA. the traders deny any wrongdoing, of course, and their lawyers say the case should be thrown out because the US no longer recognises Maduro as president.

    PE Issue 1490
    Thanks for providing some balance, brother. Though I remind myself that the Von Mises Institute is heavily biased towards capitalism, so I take their analysis with a grain of salt. But there is a lot of truth to it.

    I am very concerned about the situation at the Venezuela Colombia border. As many as four people died yesterday trying to get aid trucks across the border. Al Jazeera reports that Venezuela military forces were setting food trucks on fire. BBC had pictures and video of protesters furiously working to get food and medical supplies off the trucks before they burned up.

    While all this was happening, Maduro threw a little party in the capital and was dancing salsa with some lady on the street. My blood boils. He cut diplomatic ties with Colombia, giving Columbian staff 24 hours to get out of the country.

    I think we are witnessing the beginning of the end for Maduro.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...201249087.html

    Dan Edge

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    I agree the situation is not black and white, I think the socialistic policies have caused immense problems, but the US and its lackeys arent intervening due to their 'benevolence'. That idea has been debunked time and time again.

    Blurb

    Governments lie to justify wars. Newspapers and TV news programs assist governments by forwarding those lies to the American public. The US Government has gone to war over and over based upon lies. This video focuses upon the deceit used by the government and the news media to sell wars to the American public since the end of WW2.

    That includes the Korean War, the war on Vietnam and Cambodia, the embargo/sanctions against Cuba, the invasion of Panama, the invasion of Iraq (Desert Storm), the invasion of Serbia, the invasion of Afghanistan, the second invasion of Iraq, the overthrow of government of Libya, U.S. bombings and killings in Pakistan, the U.S. arming and funding of rebels in Syria, the U.S. embargo and sanctions against Iran -- just to name a few of the more well-known illegal wars waged by the United States Government. All of these military operations, as well as the many others not named here, were sold to America by lies and misinformation.

    The question is: Why do Americans continue to believe what they are told by their government or their news media?




    Though the propoganda has evolved since this time.

    Plenty of patriotic Americans know the deal.



    Trump doesnt mess around.



    The laws by which the global Oligarchs rule.



    Like Ive said, I dont agree with socialism. Both sides have to come together and find a negotiated settlement. One way the USA could allieviate the suffering would be to lift the sanctions sit down with their opposite number and hammer out their differences in a constructive manner.

    What we dont need is more of this.


    Having said all this I appreciate your viewpoint Dan, good to get different perspective (eg. I didnt realise how badly Venezuela has been governed, corruption, the strength of opposition) even if we disagree.
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    Salaam

    Like to share, more analysis of the situation. Another even handed take.


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    Although I completely distrust any of the Western media, Jimmy Dore and Kyle Kulinski hold a 'fair' position on Venezuela.

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    Another update. American Black ops?









    Comment.

    We’ve seen the west’s approach to Venezuela before – in Syria, Egypt, Afghanistan, need I go on?

    Instead of pleading with those who will not support him, the self-proclaimed interim president of Venezuela might want to take a closer look at who his foreign friends are

    The closest I ever came to Venezuela, many years ago, was a transit connection at Caracas airport. I noticed a lot of soldiers in red berets and a clutch of goons, and it reminded me, vaguely, of the Middle East.

    Now, sitting in the rain squalls of the wintry Levant, I flick through my newspaper clippings of our recent local autocrats – Saddam, Assad, al-Sisi, Erdogan, Mohammed bin Salman (you can fill in the rest for yourself) – and I think of Nicolas Maduro.

    The comparisons are by no means precise. Indeed, it’s not the nature of the “strongmen” I’m thinking about. It’s our reaction to all these chaps. And there are two obvious parallels: the way in which we sanction and isolate the hated dictator – or love him, as the case may be – and the manner in which we not only name the opposition as the rightful heir to the nation, but demand that democracy be delivered to the people whose torture and struggle for freedom we have suddenly discovered.

    And before I forget it, there’s one other common thread in this story. If you suggest that those who want presidential change in Venezuela may be a little too hasty, and our support for – let us say – Juan Guaido might be a bit premature if we don’t want to start a civil war, this means you are “pro-Maduro”.

    Just as those who opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq were “pro-Saddam”, or those who thought the west might pause before it supported the increasingly violent opposition in Syria were labelled “pro-Assad”.

    And those who defended Yasser Arafat – over a long period a super-terrorist, a super-diplomat and then a super-terrorist again – against those who would oust him as leader of the Palestinians, were abused as “pro-Arafat”, “pro-Palestinian”, “pro-terrorist” and, inevitably, “anti-Semitic”. I recall how George W Bush warned us after 9/11, that “you are either with us or against us”. The same threat was made to us about Assad.

    Erdogan has used it in Turkey (less than three years ago) and it was a common line in the forgotten 1930s used by none other than Mussolini. And now I quote Trump’s US secretary of state Michael Pompeo on Maduro: “Now it is time for every other nation to pick a side … either you stand with the forces of freedom, or you’re in league with Maduro and his mayhem.”

    You get the point. Now is the time for all good people to stand alongside the United States, the EU, the nations of Latin America – or do you support the Russkies, Chinese, Iranian headbangers, the perfidious Corbyn and (of all people) the Greeks? Talking of the Greeks, European pressure on Alexis Tsipras to conform to the EU’s support for Guaido – proving that the EU can indeed bully its smaller members – is a good argument for Brexiteers (though far too complex for them to understand).

    But first, let’s take a look at our favourite tyrant, in the words of all who oppose him. He’s a powerful dictator, surrounded by generals, suppressing his people, using torture, mass arrests, secret police murders, rigged elections, political prisoners – so no wonder we gave our support to those who wish to overthrow this brutal man and stage democratic elections.

    Not a bad precis of our current policy towards the Maduro regime. But I am referring, of course, word-for-word, to the west’s policy towards the Assad regime in Syria. And our support for opposition democracy there wasn’t terribly successful.

    We were not solely responsible for the Syrian civil war – but we were not guiltless since we sent an awful lot of weapons to those trying to overthrow Assad. And last month the notepad of US national security advisor John Bolton appeared to boast a plan to send 5,000 US troops to Colombia…

    And now let’s tick the box on another Maduro-lookalike – at least from the west’s simplistic point of view: the military-backed elected field marshal-president al-Sisi of Egypt, whom we love, admire and protect. Powerful dictator? Yup. Surrounded and supported by generals? You bet, not least because he locked up a rival general before the last election. Suppression? Absolutely – all in the interest of crushing “terrorism”, of course.

    Mass arrests? Happily yes, for all the inmates of Egypt’s savage prison system are “terrorists”, at least according to the field marshal-president himself. Secret police murders? Well, even forgetting the young Italian student suspected by his government to have been allegedly tortured and bumped off by one of Sisi’s top Egyptian cops, there’s a roll call of disappeared activists.

    Rigged elections? No doubt about it, although al-Sisi still maintains that his last triumph at the polls – a cracking 97 per cent – was a free and fair election.

    President Trump sent his “sincere congratulations”. Political prisoners? Well, the total is 60,000 and rising. Oh yes, and Maduro’s last victory – a rigged election if ever there was one, of course – was a mere 67.84 per cent.

    As the late sage of the Sunday Express, John Gordon, might have said: it makes you sit up a bit. So, too, I suppose, when we glance a bit further eastwards to Afghanistan, whose Taliban rulers were routed in 2001 by the US, whose post-9/11 troops and statesmen ushered in a new life of democracy, then corruption, warlordism and civil war.

    The “democracy” bit quickly came unstuck when “loya jurgas”, grand councils, turned into tribal playpens and the Americans announced that it would be an exaggeration to think that we could achieve “Jeffersonian democracy” in Afghanistan. Too true.

    Now the Americans are negotiating with the “terrorist” Taliban in Qatar so they can get the hell out of the Graveyard of Empires after 17 years of military setbacks, scandals and defeats – not to mention running a few torture camps which even Maduro would cough to look at.

    Now all this may not encourage you to walk down memory lane. And I haven’t even listed the sins of Saddam, let alone our continuing and cosy relationship – amazing as it still seems – with that Gulf state whose lads strangled, chopped up and secretly buried a US-resident journalist in Turkey.

    Now just imagine if Maduro, tired of a journalist critic slandering him in Miami, decided to lure him to the Venezuelan embassy in Washington and top the poor guy, slice him up and bury him secretly in Foggy Bottom. Well now, I have a feeling that sanctions might have been applied to Maduro a long time ago. But not to Saudi Arabia, of course, where we are very definitely not advocating democracy.

    “Now is the time for democracy and prosperity in Venezuela,” quoth John Bolton this week. Oh, yes indeed. Maduro runs an oil-soaked nation yet its people starve. He is an unworthy, foolish and vain man, even if he’s not Saddamite in his crimes. He was rightly described by a colleague as a dreary tyrant. He even looks like the kind of guy who tied ladies to railway lines in silent movies.

    So good luck to Guaido. Palpably a nice guy, speaks eloquently, wise to stick to aid for the poor and fresh elections rather than dwell on just how exactly Maduro and his military chums are going to be booted out.

    In other words, good luck – but watch out. Instead of pleading with those who will not support him – the Greeks, for example – he might take a closer look at who his foreign friends are. And do a quick track record on their more recent crusades for freedom, democracy and the right to life. And by the way, I haven’t even mentioned Libya.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8768821.html

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    Another update

    The anti-imperial alliance

    Now China has sent troops to Venezuela as well:

    A group of Chinese soldiers arrived in Venezuela on Sunday as part of a cooperation program between Beijing and Caracas. According to reports, more than 120 soldiers from the Chinese People’s Liberation Army arrived at Venezuela’s Margarita Island to deliver humanitarian aid and military supplies to the government forces.

    The arrival of the People’s Liberation Army in Venezuela comes just days after the Russian armed forces deployed to the country to install a military helicopter training facility.

    However, this move by the Russian military has not come without heavy criticism from the Trump administration and several U.S. congressmen.

    “Maduro calls for hands off #Venezuela while he invites security forces from Cuba and Russia, so he and his cronies can keep plundering Venezuela. It is time for Venezuelan institutions to stand for their sovereignty. Russia and Cuba, #HandsOffVenezuela,” U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo tweeted on March 28th.

    These moves by the Russian and Chinese armed forces appear to be a powerplay against the U.S. administration, who is actively pushing to remove Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro from power.
    As I observed last year, Syria was a major turning point and will likely mark the end of the global US empire. The fall of Libya and the near-expansion of NATO to Ukraine and Georgia forced the Russians and the Chinese to realize that the time for resistance had finally arrived, and their strategists recognized that the US military is too weak and overextended to be capable of enforcing the Monroe Doctrine.

    Since the US is almost certain to back down on Venezuela, where its chosen puppet has absolutely no popular support, it is safe to expect US retreats on other fronts as China and Russia start putting on the pressure elsewhere in South and Central America. Remember, China already controls the Panama Canal and has considerable influence on the west coast of Canada.

    I suspect this is why Israel is being so aggressive with regards to the Golan Heights and Gaza, as they must recognize that their ability to act underneath the aegis of US protection is rapidly running out of time.

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