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    Kurdish women scarred by state violence (OP)


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    Turkish security forces subjected Kurdish women to rape threats and abuse and denied them access to medical care during the long curfews in southeast Turkey from late 2015 to early 2016, often leaving deep psychological scars, said a report by the Istanbul-based Migration Monitoring Association.Fierce urban fighting broke out across the mainly Kurdish southeast of Turkey in late 2015 when the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) declared autonomy in parts of many cities and its youth wing erected barricades to troops out. The army responded by shelling the areas with tank and artillery fire and sending in special forces to crush the insurrection.Based on interviews with 480 women, the report paints a picture of the deep impact on local women of their fraught existence during the waves of violence and destruction during the period. More than 90 percent of those interviewed blamed the state.“They tore apart my underwear in the bedroom. Condoms were everywhere around the house. There were a lot of hideous and derogatory writings on the walls,” said a 31-year-old woman from Cizre, who said security officers used her home as their sleeping quarters for an extended period. In addition to common problems like dangerous streets and the lack of electricity and water, women also faced not being able to find necessary feminine products, no access to doctors when sick or pregnant, and an increase in domestic violence.“They even left sh*t on women’s underwear. They wrote nasty things,” said a 43-year-old woman from Diyarbakır. “It has been three years since then, but these writings are still on my mind, like ‘Get ready, girls, we are coming soon.’”As a result of the experiences, many women are now experiencing deep psychological problems, including depression and post-traumatic stress. Some still see dead bodies on the ground and refuse to leave their homes. Some are unable to handle the trauma.“Our neighbour’s daughter-in-law killed herself after the curfews. She became depressed, she told her mother-in-law that she was going downstairs and then hanged herself,” said an 80-year-old woman from Yüksekova.“We could not go out during the curfew. We stayed in the basement for three months. We were seven families, all of us hungry and thirsty. There were a lot of sick people among us. We could neither go to the hospital, nor buy medicine, nor go outside at all,” said a 23-year-old woman in Cizre, where security forces killed more than 130 people who had been stuck in basements as violence raged.“There were many sick people. We could neither go to the hospital, nor get any medicine. We could not go outside. The state did not treat us as humans, so we do not recognise the state. I do not go to school anymore, I’ve quit, I do not want to,” said an 18-year-old in Cizre.Many of the women are scarred for life by what they witnessed or what circumstances led them to do. Yet following the curfews and the coup attempt in 2016, the state shut down all of the women’s organisations and initiatives that had been established during a two-year peace process with the PKK that ended in July 2015. As a result, the women now have nowhere to turn for help.“Soldiers were firing at our house. We hanged a piece of white cloth as a flag on our house, but they continued fire. They shelled our house, making a huge hole in a wall,” said a woman in Nusaybin. “A woman was killed in front of our house. They were firing guns, so we could not go outside. She was a pregnant woman, shot on the stairs, she died right where she was.”“[My second son] was wounded, but it was not serious. He told me, ‘Mom, do not take me to the hospital, if you take me there, they will kill me’,” said a woman from Cizre. “We took him there and they killed him. This is my greatest regret.”
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    Re: Kurdish women scarred by state violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by SintoDinto View Post
    Lol I'm not advocating PKK and i dont like how you keep saying Kurds are advocating this or Kurds are advocating that. Also speaking of which I thought I'd lighten the mood https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=641620329607136&_rdr
    AAAH but that's where we have to be careful because all these propaganda news reports against Turkey are designed to assist this evil rebellion going on!

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    Re: Kurdish women scarred by state violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    AAAH but that's where we have to be careful because all these propaganda news reports against Turkey are designed to assist this evil rebellion going on!
    Comarmisin lan? Bu sudanin hakkinda trol erif!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SintoDinto View Post
    Comarmisin lan? Bu sudanin hakkinda trol erif!
    Just googled the translation of the derogatory slur for AKP voters "comar " it is an affectionate term for dogs. So translation is " what are you a dog, man? this is about sudan you troll!"

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    Joke: what does Donald trump, president of the United states, and the muslim s who hate him and everything American have in common. They both hate the media.

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    I apologize for calling you a dog Ahmed that's not what I meant I just lost my temper and I wasn't calling you a dog per se just an akp voter but it was still wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SintoDinto View Post
    Comarmisin lan? Bu sudanin hakkinda trol erif!

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    Just googled the translation of the derogatory slur for AKP voters "comar " it is an affectionate term for dogs. So translation is " what are you a dog, man? this is about sudan you troll!"

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    Joke: what does Donald trump, president of the United states, and the muslim s who hate him and everything American have in common. They both hate the media.

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    I apologize for calling you a dog Ahmed that's not what I meant I just lost my temper and I wasn't calling you a dog per se just an akp voter but it was still wrong.
    In regards to your OP, persecution is a side effect of rebellion, so unfortunately the kurds brought it onto themselves

    This is why rebellion against oppressive ruler is forbidden, because it results in far greater oppression

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    Re: Kurdish women scarred by state violence

    Well looks like Mr. Hitler was right once again.

    Repeat a lie enough times and people will eventually believe it's the truth.

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    Re: Kurdish women scarred by state violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    In regards to your OP, persecution is a side effect of rebellion, so unfortunately the kurds brought it onto themselves

    This is why rebellion against oppressive ruler is forbidden, because it results in far greater oppression
    I agree, violent rebellions often create more trouble.

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    Re: Kurdish women scarred by state violence

    Quote Originally Posted by SintoDinto View Post
    I agree, violent rebellions often create more trouble.

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    Although this is the reason why rebellion is not allowed, yet it is totally unjust and unacceptable for anyone to opress another so may Allah protect all from injustices and take mercy on us all

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    Re: Kurdish women scarred by state violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed. View Post
    In regards to your OP, persecution is a side effect of rebellion, so unfortunately the kurds brought it onto themselves

    This is why rebellion against oppressive ruler is forbidden, because it results in far greater oppression
    a second reason is that a ruler does not have the luxury to satisfie everyone. some decisions your ruler takes may be contrary to your personal interests...but you have to trust your ruler that he has the big picture and he takes those decisions for everybodies interest.
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