With BJP closing in not only a win but a majority in parliament as well as increasing religious hatred, organizing religious mobs to attack neighbourhoods at a level never been seen before, and openly anti-muslim (as well as anti-christian slogans) such as sterilizing Muslims, CHristians and Dalits, it seems like Communal violence is at an all time high. Therefore Indian muslims (atleast outside West Bengal, South India) could be seeing the worst anti-muslim violence since the independence of India.
I wonder are there any Indian muslims here, what is your opinion?
Also I think Indian muslims need to stop this "I hate Pakistan", "I love India", Indian patriotism nonsense. Only reason they are in so much trouble is because their ancestors were fooled by Gandhi into staying in secular India. Muslims should have seperated Hyderabad, parts of South India, Bihar, UP, etc and could have lived in peace. It's time to stop and smell the coffee.
I am not really good at politics but that political party and its dumb members are something i hate to the max .
India is a big democratic country with lots of freedom for people and these BJP led government and its followers are specialist in ruining that atmosphere in that country .
They all have infested the Media like TV , Social networking sites like Facebook , YouTube comment section with their hate speech and comments which makes no rational or logical sense .
All you could see from the followers of these BJP party are really low quality , low class comments .
But his people gave no other answer but this: they said, "Drive out the followers of Lut from your city: these are indeed people who want to be clean and pure!"
According to a Reuters report, a total of 63 cow vigilante attacks had occurred in India between 2010 and mid 2017, mostly since the Modi government came to power in 2014. In these attacks between 2010 and June 2017, "28 Indians – 24 of them Muslims – were killed and 124 injured", states the Reuter's report.[6]
There has been a rise in the number of incidents of cow vigilantism since the election of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) to the Indian central government in 2014. The frequency and severity of cow vigilante violence has been described as "unprecedented".[7] Human Rights Watch has reported that there has been a surge in cow vigilante violence since 2015.[8] The surge is attributed to the recent rise in Hindu nationalism in India.[7][9] Many vigilante groups say they feel "empowered" by the victory of the Hindu nationalist BJP in the 2014 election.[10][11] The Supreme Court of India in September 2017 ruled that each state should appoint a police officer in each district as a nodal officer to take strict action against cow vigilantism......
(Notice the fact that the cow issue is simply a vehicle to attack Islam and Muslims as part of a global effort by satanic loanshark controlled politicians who use different guises such as "terrorism", "islamic extremism", "anti-independence", etc).
......In August 2016, India's Prime Minister Modi expressed his displeasure at rising incidence of cow vigilantism and condemned it.[92] Several observers such as Prem Shankar Jha and Zafarul Islam Khan remarked that Modi has selectively condemned vigilante attacks on Dalits but not on Muslims, since while condemning this vigilantism, Modi did not mention 'Muslims' who have been the major victims of the vigilante violence, despite mentioning 'Dalits'.[18][93]
Shah Jalal-Ad-Deen (The Sufi Mujaahid and Saint) and his 360 mujahideen followers:
In 1303, the Sultan of Bengal, Shamsuddin Firoz Shah was engaged in a war with the neighbouring kingdom of Sylhet, then under the rule of the Hindu king Gour Govinda. This war began when Burhanuddin, a Muslim living in Sylhet, sacrificed a cow for his newborn son's Aqiqah or celebration of birth.[6] According to tradition, Govinda learned of this sacrifice when a piece of beef from the cow was picked up by a bird which was then dropped on the King's personal temple. Govinda, in a fury for what he saw as sacrilege, had the newborn killed as well as having Burhanuddin's right hand cut off.[7]
When word of this reached Firoz Shah, an army commanded by his nephew, Sikander Khan was sent against Gour Govinda. Two successive strikes were attempted, both ending in failure due to the Bengali armies inexperience in the foreign terrain as well as Govinda's superior military strategy.[8][9]
A third attack, now under the additional leadership of Firoz Shah's Sipah Salar (Commander-in-Chief) Syed Nasiruddin was undertaken, a force which was joined by Shah Jalal and his companions, who at this point numbered 360.[10] Shah Jalal, who had immediately prior to this been a guest of the Sufi saint Nizamuddin Auliya in Delhi, may have been summoned by Firoz Shah for aid after the initial failed attacks against Gour Govinda. Alternatively, he may already have been present in Sylhet, fighting against the Hindu king independently prior to being approached by the Sultan.[10][11]
The army was guided through Sylhet by Burhanuddin, ultimately arriving at the banks of the Barak River. Here, the third battle was fought between Gour Govinda and the combined armies of Shah Jalal and Syed Nasiruddin, with the latter forces ultimately claiming victory. Govinda was forced to retreat and Sylhet was brought under Muslim control. According to tradition, Shah Jalal at this point compared the soil in Sylhet with that which was previously given to him by his uncle, finding them to be identical. In any case, following the battle he, along with his followers permanently settled in Sylhet.[6][10]
Devotional worship directed to one supreme deity, usually Vishnu (especially in his incarnations as Rama and Krishna) or Shiva, by whose grace salvation may be attained by all regardless of sex, caste, or class. It is followed by the majority of Hindus today
The person with the highest bhakti meter is considered fit to be a BJP leader and nothing else .
They think their level in this bhakti meter will bring them all sorts of prosperity .
I am not really good at politics but that political party and its dumb members are something i hate to the max .
India is a big democratic country with lots of freedom for people and these BJP led government and its followers are specialist in ruining that atmosphere in that country .
They all have infested the Media like TV , Social networking sites like Facebook , YouTube comment section with their hate speech and comments which makes no rational or logical sense .
All you could see from the followers of these BJP party are really low quality , low class comments .
Thanks
If you look at BJP's general election campaign, it had nothing to do with Economy, just with nationalism and slogans. And the majority of people bought it.
BJP will come to power again with 300+ seats according to most exit polls.
I think it is time for the muslims to migrate to South India, West bengal, Hyderabad, etc because most of North India now will be killing grounds for hindu mobs.
And if you look at the comments from Hindus, they don't care about jobs, economy, currency devaluation, etc they just want Hindu Rashtra.
So yeah all muslims living in Gujarat, Delhi, Maharashtra, Assam, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, need to migrate to other parts of the country ASAP.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000
Muslims who separated from uncivillized, abusive, unhygenic, and ignorant polytheistic pagans called the new land:
PAAK = clean, pure
STAN = abode, place.
It appears that history is repeating:
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It is not just cow mobs, it's in general. The society and atmosphere of India has completely changed over the last 5 years and it seems it will get worse. Never before has the consumption of cow urine drinking risen to a level we see today, neither the hate and religious violence.
The only good thing out of this, is that I can see a frosting of social relationship between hindus and muslims in Bangladesh which will help to dislodge the Awami League from power.
I havent been actively following this issue. Why all the doom and gloom? I know modi hates muslims but why does this matter so much now? He has been the PM on india for the last 4 years. Why will the next 4 be different?
There's enough Muslims in India to be able to defend themselves. If 200.000.000 million Muslims can get 'opressed' then they have only themselves to blame
I havent been actively following this issue. Why all the doom and gloom? I know modi hates muslims but why does this matter so much now? He has been the PM on india for the last 4 years. Why will the next 4 be different?
While BJP is fascist to the core and is really hindu expression of Nazism, they kept things mum until Yogi Adityanath came to be UP's CM. After this BJP got green light from public to unleash the worst propaganda of religious violence in history. MPs openly calling for sterilization of muslims (and christians), mob violence, etc.
You also realize even the candidates are terrorists and have charges. They also praise Godse, the very guy who killed the father of their nation as a "desh bhakt".
While doing all this, India has made sure Bangladesh is forced to secularize under its vassal party Awami League, so while it is in the process of destroying its own minorities, it has forced muslims in Bangladesh to keep minorities as first class citizens.
All in all, it seems to be the beginning of the end for muslims in India. Jinnah had warned them but they prefered India and now they will be put in pogroms.
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While BJP is fascist to the core and is really hindu expression of Nazism, they kept things mum until Yogi Adityanath came to be UP's CM. After this BJP got green light from public to unleash the worst propaganda of religious violence in history. MPs openly calling for sterilization of muslims (and christians), mob violence, etc.
You also realize even the candidates are terrorists and have charges. They also praise Godse, the very guy who killed the father of their nation as a "desh bhakt".
While doing all this, India has made sure Bangladesh is forced to secularize under its vassal party Awami League, so while it is in the process of destroying its own minorities, it has forced muslims in Bangladesh to keep minorities as first class citizens.
All in all, it seems to be the beginning of the end for muslims in India. Jinnah had warned them but they prefered India and now they will be put in pogroms.
Who told you that all of this is going to happen?
Have you been granted a temporary window into the unseen?
Are you familiar with the concept of predictive programming?
What is right or wrong with the actions which you described?
THINK PEOPLE.
Who told you that all of this is going to happen?
Have you been granted a temporary window into the unseen?
Are you familiar with the concept of predictive programming?
What is right or wrong woth the actions which you described?
THINK PEOPLE.
One can formulate what MIGHT happen from information at hand?
And yes many of BJP's members have proclaimed of their desire to get rid off muslims and establish a hindu rashtra.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmed.
There's enough Muslims in India to be able to defend themselves. If 200.000.000 million Muslims can get 'opressed' then they have only themselves to blame
There are 1.2 billion hindus. In the state with largest muslim population (Uttar Pradesh), they majority hindus elected Yogi Adityanath the most extreme and fascist CM to date (yeah, he's far worse than Modi).
Also the 200,000,000 aren't in a single state, they are spread out among various states.
Some provinces like Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Andhrapradesh are relatively safe. Rest are just violent hell holes.
Ballot boxes were looted at gunpoint on Monday by unidentified people at polling booths in West Bengal's Murshidabad where Panchayat Election is underway.
The ongoing Panchayat Election saw huge-scale clashes between the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and the Trinamool Congress (TMC) workers, resulting in the death of one.
Clashes also broke out between TMC and Congress supporters in Murshidabad.
"BJP agent was trying to run away with the ballot box, while officers caught hold of him but people said to let him go. I just drove people away using my hand, that's all," State Minister Rabindra Nath Ghosh told ANI, who was caught on camera slapping a BJP supporter.
"TMC hasn't attacked anyone," Ghosh added.
A voting booth was also vandalised allegedly by TMC workers in North Dinajpur's Sonadangi during the panchayat polls.
Earlier, some ballot papers were also thrown in a pond after a clash between TMC and BJP workers in Murshidabad. A ballot box was also retrieved from a pond in Sonadangi.
The clashes between the two parties also led to vandalism of vehicles in Raniganj area of Asansol during the time of voting.
Earlier in the day, a TMC worker namely Arif Gazi was shot dead in Kultali area of West Bengal's South 24 Parganas district in poll-related violence even as voting continues in the state.
On a related note, the voting, which began at 7 a.m. on Monday morning, will continue till 5 p.m. in 621 Zilla Parishads, 6157 panchayat samitis, and 31,827 gram panchayats.
According to the 2011 Census of India, the West Bengal state has over 24.6 million Muslims,[1] who form 27.01% of the state's population.[2] Muslims form the majority of the population in three districts: Murshidabad, Malda and Uttar Dinajpur.[3]
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I believe that Modi is using the Israeli method of playing mind games with words by substituting what he really means for other more innocent sounding words - and thereby covering his criminal intent:
Accusing the Congress of repeatedly bowing its head before terrorism, Modi alleged that opposition leaders like Banerjee and Gandhi were insulting the country and its forces in their quest to demean him. This chowkidar (Modi) of yours is standing as a great wall between national security and the Congress’s ploys,” he said and appealed to the people to re-elect the BJP for creating a “new India”.....
.....Earlier, at another rally, he called Banerjee a “speedbreaker” in the path of West Bengal’s development. “I have not been able to ensure the development of Bengal with the same speed as elsewhere in the country. The reason for this is that in Bengal there is a speedbreaker, and this speedbreaker is known as Didi,” Modi said, attacking the chief minister.
He alleged that Banerjee had put hurdles in the way of implementation of the Centre’s welfare schemes like Ayushman Bharat Yojana, PM Kisan Samman Yojana and the Real Estate Regulatory Authority Act (RERA). “Didi wants to perpetuate poverty so that her politics of poverty may flourish. I want to eradicate it but Didi, like the Congress and the Left, thinks if poverty is weeded out, how they will run their politics,” he said.
Another question that comes to mind is: how likely is it that zuckerberg is turning a blind eye to modi's known public manipulation methods - since there had to be somehing in it for modi:
Strange similarity between Modi’s methods and Mark’s mistakes
Both Narendra Modi and Mark Zuckerberg were on top of the world and nothing could possibly go wrong. Now both face growing challenges—one to his political leadership; and the other to his career
Mala Jay
Published: 10 Apr 2018, 9:00 AM
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When Narendra Modi hugged Mark Zuckerberg onstage in September 2015, it had looked like the beginning of an intimate and potentially profitable partnership. Modi was the leader of the world’s biggest democracy, with 130 crore citizens. Zuckerberg was the CEO of the world’s biggest social media network, with 230 crore active users.
Both men were on top of the world and nothing could possibly go wrong. Even when Modi broke down in public while speaking of the sacrifices his widowed and poverty-stricken mother had made, it was said that his tears would cement the bonds of friendship.
Today, that emotional encounter at the Facebook headquarters in California seems a thing of the past. Things have changed dramatically. Both men are facing growing challenges—one, to his political leadership; and the other, to his corporate career.
For the first time since he was elected Prime Minister, Modi’s domestic political opponents are joining forces in an attempt to defeat him in a series of crucial regional and national elections in the months ahead.
Zuckerberg is being called into question for his business practices and made to testify in grueling Congressional hearings for two days this week. The stakes are high for Zuckerberg and the gigantic company he created, with lawmakers in America demanding answers about Facebook’s alleged improper privacy policies.
Zuckerberg has reasons to be apprehensive because the 33-year-old has never before testified on oath before the US Congress and all indications are that members from both parties are determined to ask tough questions.
Both men are facing growing challenges—one, to his political leadership; and the other, to his corporate career. For the first time since he was elected Prime Minister, Modi’s domestic political opponents are joining forces in an attempt to defeat him in a series of crucial regional and national elections in the months ahead. Mark Zuckerberg is being called into question for his business practices and made to testify in grueling Congressional hearings for two days this week
Media reports say the Facebook chief, who has hired leading lawyers and psychology consultants to prepare him for the hearings, have advised him on ways to minimise the damage to Facebook’s reputation and his own—by showing remorse and making it sound convincing.
One crisis communications expert has been quoted as saying: “I think personal demeanour and body language are very important. He has to try his best to appear humble, contrite and authentic. He should absolutely avoid conveying even the slightest degree of arrogance and glibness”.
Interestingly, similar advice would equally be applicable to Narendra Modi. His style of functioning has often been described as arrogant and authoritarian. Even his key party functionaries, especially next in command Amit Shah, have been known to speak in an abrasive manner—which may have impressed or intimidated voters in the past but is unlikely to be well received in the new atmosphere in which large sections of peasants and workers in rural and urban areas have been expressing their disillusionment.
Zuckerberg is being advised by his behavioural coaches to learn from the mistakes made by Microsoft chief Bill Gates when he was questioned by the US Congress in 1998. Gates was seen as boastful, haughty and overly sensitive to criticism and that eventually led to his business empire being carved up.
The main charge against Zuckerberg is that Facebook has illegally sold private data on more than 87 million Facebook users in the United States to the data firm Cambridge Analytica during the 2016 presidential election campaign.
In Modi’s case, too, the possibility cannot be ruled out that if his party, BJP, performs poorly in the upcoming elections in the southern state of Karnataka and subsequently in northern states like Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh, murmurs of discontent and displeasure will be heard among stake-holders of the Sangh Parivar. The all-powerful parent organisation, the RSS, is already believed to be none-too-happy with Modi’s manner of dealing with the recent spate of social and economic strife
In an attempt to restore public confidence in Facebook’s unsavoury business practices, Zuckerberg has already launched a public relations drive and accepted personal accountability and responsibility for any perceived wrongs committed.
The Facebook CEO has also released an advance copy of what he will say in his opening testimony before US Committee on Energy and Commerce on Wednesday. The operative part of the six-page document goes like this:
“It was my mistake, and I’m sorry. I started Facebook, I run it, and I’m responsible for what happens here. We didn’t take a broad enough view of our responsibility, and that was a big mistake.
“It’s not enough to just connect people, we have to make sure those connections are positive. It’s not enough to just give people a voice, we have to make sure people aren’t using it to hurt people or spread misinformation. It’s not enough to give people control of their information, we have to make sure the developers they’ve given it to are protecting it too. Across the board, we have a responsibility to not just build tools, but to make sure those tools are used for good”.
Even this strategy of humility has not prevented Facebook shares from suffering a heavy fall in the stock markets. The fears are that if his performance during the congressional hearings turn out to be poor, there could be a further slide in Facebook stocks —which could trigger demands from within the company’s stake-holders themselves that he should step down as chairman and CEO.
In Modi’s case, too, the possibility cannot be ruled out that if his party, BJP, performs poorly in the upcoming elections in the southern state of Karnataka and subsequently in northern states like Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh, murmurs of discontent and displeasure will be heard among stake-holders of the Sangh Parivar. The all-powerful parent organisation, the RSS, is already believed to be none-too-happy with Modi’s manner of dealing with the recent spate of social and economic strife, which seems to be spreading across various parts of India.
Zuckerberg’s testimony on Tuesday and Wednesday is certain to be closely monitored and all the major cable TV news net-works have geared up for minute-to-minute coverage. How Zuckerberg will fare in the witness chair remains to be seen. Most commentators say that if Zuckerberg stumbles, the harm to his company could be severe. The same would apply to Narendra Modi—if he stumbles in his electioneering and handling of crises in the coming weeks and months, the harm to his party and to his own image could be severe.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi found special mention as Mark Zuckerberg put forth Facebook’s vision for the coming years.
Talking about how citizens are engaging with their government beyond the ballot box, Zuckerberg said, “Beyond voting, the greatest opportunity is helping people stay engaged with the issues that matter to them every day, not just every few years at the ballot box. We can help establish direct dialogue and accountability between people and our elected leaders. In India, Prime Minister Modi has asked his ministers to share their meetings and information on Facebook so they can hear direct feedback from citizens.”
Since taking over as prime minister, Modi has had a strong engagement with Facebook, including the hugely publicised Townhall meeting in the fall of 2015.
The statement also added that in Kenya, whole villages are using WhatsApp, Facebook-owned messaging service, to communicate with each other and their representatives.
The social media czar was also quick to point out the power of a strong Facebook presence in winning elections around the world, something that India has been witness to since the run-up to the general elections of 2014. “ In recent campaigns around the world -- from India and Indonesia across Europe to the United States -- we’ve seen the candidate with the largest and most engaged following on Facebook usually wins. Just as TV became the primary medium for civic communication in the 1960s, social media is becoming this in the 21st century,” Zuckerberg said.
The Facebook CEO said progress now requires “humanity coming together not just as cities or nations, but also as a global community.” He offered Facebook to bring people closer and together.
“When we began, this idea was not controversial. Yet now, across the world there are people left behind by globalization, and movements for withdrawing from global connection.”
It appears that there was something in it for Modi - and Zuckerberg either got lost in the moment and slipped as he spoke on the issue .... or was brazenly peddling his wares directly to political candidates with a self interest.
WhatsApp security breach likely a government surveillance attack, company says
Posted Wed 15 May 2019 at 12:28am, updatedWed 15 May 2019 at 12:34am
WATCH
Duration: 35 seconds35s
VIDEO Human rights groups worry the breach could have a global impact
WhatsApp says a security breach of its messaging app had the hallmarks of governments using surveillance technology developed by a private company — and human rights groups may have been the target.....
WhatsApp is used by 1.5 billion people and has previously touted its high level of security and privacy The spyware used was developed by Israeli cyber surveillance company NSO Group
Whats App said it was "deeply concerned about the abuse" of surveillance technology
The Facebook-owned company said it had notified the United States Department of Justice to help with an investigation into the breach, which was discovered in early May.
WhatsApp, one of the world's most popular messaging services, has encouraged its 1.5 billion monthly users to update to the latest version of the app, where it said the breach had been fixed.
It has previously touted its high level of security and privacy, with messages on its platform being encrypted end-to-end so WhatsApp and third parties cannot read or listen to them.
IMAGE Social media giant Facebook bought WhatsApp in 2014 for $US19 billion.(Reuters: Dado Ruvic, Illustration)
A WhatsApp spokesman said the attack was sophisticated and had all the hallmarks of a "private company working with governments on surveillance".
It said it was "deeply concerned about the abuse" of surveillance technology, and it believed human rights activists may have been the targets of the breach.
"We're working with human rights groups on learning as much as we can about who may have been impacted from their community. That's really where our highest concern is," a spokesman said.
Ireland's Data Protection Commission, the lead regulator of WhatsApp in the European Union, said in a statement the vulnerability "may have enabled a malicious actor to install unauthorised software and gain access to personal data on devices which have WhatsApp installed".
Claims of 'chilling attacks on human rights defenders'
Scott Storey, a senior lecturer in cyber security at Sheffield Hallam University, said the attack appeared to be carried out by governments targeting specific people, mainly human rights campaigners.
"For the average end user, it's not something to really worry about," he said, adding WhatsApp quickly fixed the vulnerability.
"This isn't someone trying to steal private messages or personal details."
Earlier, the Financial Times reported a vulnerability in WhatsApp allowed attackers to inject spyware on phones by ringing up targets using the app's phone call function.
The newspaper said the spyware was developed by Israeli cyber-surveillance company NSO Group, and WhatsApp could not yet give an estimate of how many phones were targeted.
IMAGE WhatsApp says a vulnerability let mobile phones be infected with sophisticated spyware.(AP: Patrick Sison)
Asked about the report, NSO said its technology was licensed to authorised government agencies "for the sole purpose of fighting crime and terror". It said it did not operate the system itself, and it had a rigorous licensing and vetting process.
"Under no circumstances would NSO be involved in the operating or identifying of targets of its technology, which is solely operated by intelligence and law enforcement agencies," it said.
Amnesty International, which has previously reported being targeted by the software, is currently supporting legal action that would compel the Israeli Ministry of Defence to revoke the export licence of NSO Group due to its "chilling attacks on human rights defenders around the world".
"NSO Group sells its products to governments who are known for outrageous human rights abuses, giving them the tools to track activists and critics," Danna Ingleton, deputy director of Amnesty Tech, said.
Social media giant Facebook bought WhatsApp in 2014 for $US19 billion ($27.38 billion).
The question which i haven't yet seen anyone asking yet is:
Why did whatsapp have the ability to take control of people's phone operating systems in the first place?
Doesn't that make the app itself "spyware"?
“The attack has all the hallmarks of a private company reportedly that works with governments to deliver spyware that takes over the functions of mobile phone operating systems,” a WhatsApp spokesperson told MarketWatch.
India's parliament has approved a bill that makes the Muslim practice of "instant divorce" a criminal offence.
"Triple talaq", as it's known, allows a husband to divorce his wife by repeating the word "talaq" (divorce) three times in any form, including email or text message.
The Supreme Court declared the practice unconstitutional in 2017.
Supporters say the new measure protects Muslim women. Opponents say the punishment is harsh and open to misuse.
Men found in breach of the new law can be jailed for up to three years.
The bill was first tabled in 2017 but stalled in the upper house of parliament, where some MPs called it unfair.
India's governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) supports the bill, while the main opposition Congress party opposes it.
But the BJP doesn't have a majority in the upper house. On Tuesday, the bill was passed by 99 votes to 84 after a number of walkouts and abstentions.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi was quick to celebrate the vote as "a victory of gender justice".
But others accused his Hindu nationalist BJP of targeting Muslims.
Asaduddin Owaisi, an MP from the opposition All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen party, said the new law was another attack on Muslim identity under the BJP, which has been in power since 2014.
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