I want to talk about this topic because there are many muslims i know who slander and spread hate against the Chechen fighters and people because of this one event. Most of these people talk rubbish since they have no idea what actually happened and are only repeating the kafir media propaganda.
Firstly why did it happen.
The answer to this can be seen in the first war . During the first war Chechen commander Shamil Basayev led a hostage-taking of a hospital in the town of Buddenyvosk. From this hostage-taking , the Mujahideen were able to secure a small ceasefire which was they used to regroup and - led again by Shamil Basayev - attacked and recaptured their main cities thereby forcing the russians out and ending the war and the genocide of their people.
In the Buddenyvosk operation the Mujahideen did not kill the hostages. This was also the intention of Beslan. They did not go their to kill children but to stop the genocide of their people and liberate them.
Another interesting point the western media fail to mention is that a few months before Beslan , Shamil Basayev (who was behind Beslan) offered to obey international law IF the russians did the same and stop the slaughter of Chechen civilians:
If president of Russia Putin makes an official statement that he
pledges to strictly comply with the international law in the solution
of the Russian-Chechen armed conflict, we will stop all subversive
activities and acts of sabotage against unarmed civilians on the
territory of Russia (there are no peaceful civilians in Russia),
except for special military operations against the military and
secret services in the places where they are deployed. We can even
give that up as well.
The russians could have avoided Beslan by obeying their own laws but instead they ignored the offer and continued with their genocide.
In his interview after Beslan , Shamil Basayev offered to go on trial for Beslan even though the deaths of the children came about from the russians attacking the building. Here are a couple of survivors from Beslan :
QUOTE
"I saw myself, as a woman fell down, after this on a window-sill there was the mountain of corpses, continues the woman. -The terrorists
didn't shoot at us at all - I even thought that when they finish them
off, they (servicemen .) will come and and will finish off all of
us".
Another victim (Zinaida Varziyeva) described how his son perished and
of what nature of wounds he had. As it proved to be, he got a bullet
wound not in his back, but at his side - "on that side our servicemen
stood, they were shooting at the school".
To all the people who claim Shamil Basayev is a "child-killer" , "terrorist" etc. : What kind of terrorist expresses regret at what happened , offers to go on trial and has many times offered to observe international law?? He must be the worst "terrorist" around.
Also talking of children and terrorists , it is the russian terrorists who have wiped out 40,000 muslim children and still counting.
It is the russians who are carrying out the genocide of a nation , it is the russians who have wiped out a quarter of the population of Chechnya.
Many muslims also claim that through Beslan , the Chechen people and Mujahideen have lost public opinion in the west.
Before Beslan the Mujahideen must have thought they have two options:
1) Continue the fight as it is , let 40,000 more Chechen children but keep decent public opinion in the west
or
2) Do something radical to stop the genocide of the women , the children and the elderly but in the process lose public opinion.
To this the only answer can be : what has public opinion done for the
Chechens in the past?
Has it stopped the destruction of cities and towns?
Has it stopped the rape camps where our sisters are abused and tortured?
Has it prevented the deaths of 40,000 Chechen children?
Has it stopped the genocide?
These questions answer themselves.
I have not justified the deaths of the people in Beslan - there isnt a justification which is also why Shamil Basayev has offered to go on trial- but explained what happened and why.
I want to end in Shamil Basayevs own words which show the hypocrisy of the world :
"The Russians have been holding the entire Chechen people hostage for
five years and nothing happened. We held 1,000 people hostage only
for three days to stop the genocide of the Chechen people, and the
whole world is shocked. What is this if not hypocrisy? . .
I.e if children are killed in Kabul or Baghdad because of ariel bombardment - im sure you would put a different spin on it - am i correct or am i correct?
You seem to be firmly attached to this straw man.
Silentobserver never said that he/she endorsed the killing of muslim children. It is pathetic that you would try to spin him/her or anyone else this way just for condemning this event.
As posted earlier, if you want to discuss killing of children and hostage taking in general, that would be a different thread. I don't think its really necesary thogh because I doubt anybody would disagree that such things are horrible in any case, muslim or non-muslim, christian or non christian, american or non american, russian or non russian, etc etc
Silentobserver never said that he/she endorsed the killing of muslim children. It is pathetic that you would try to spin him/her or anyone else this way just for condemning this event.
As posted earlier, if you want to discuss killing of children and hostage taking in general, that would be a different thread. I don't think its really necesary thogh because I doubt anybody would disagree that such things are horrible in any case, muslim or non-muslim, christian or non christian, american or non american, russian or non russian, etc etc
Then why do these countries vote in child-killers into power?
Russians supported Putin again despite his child-murdering antics in Chechnya.
Americans voted Bush again despite his murderous missions in Afghanistan and Iraq?
As for Ariel Sharon...
Is the blood of our children so cheap to you guys that people cannot bring themselves to elect someone whose hands isnt steeped in Muslim blood?
I'll reopen it later, maybe, if you're good. Right now things are getting a little heated and my instincts say 'lock it'. I'll probably have to delete a few posts too as I sense this has happened atleast once.
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
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