Indeed conspiracy is of the devil that he may vex those who believe but he can harm them not at all except by Allahs permission so let the believers put their trust in Allah. 58:10 Quran
- must we get vex or is that want the devil wants?
The types of protests we have seen around the world and the horrid demonstrations of Muslims do not represent the core Islamic values that are outlined in the Quran and the Sunnah.
A Christian missionary spoke of Islam being “a faith that merely shouts slogans, stamps its feet and beats its breast in a mindless mob.”
It is not the faith of Islam that reflects this but an angry crowd of Muslims that have lost touch with the spiritual tradtion of Islam and the core Islmic values such as patience and justice.
Without thinking and reflecting on the situation, we have took to the streets in a state of rage only to play the role of how the media wants to potray us. A violent and angry crowd which is not in contrast with the statement of Allah found in the Quran:
And the servants of Allah the Mercyful are those who walk on the earth in humility and when the ignorant address them they say peace (25:63)
Instead we have took to the streets like crazed hooligans on a warpath burning flags that have sacred religious symbols on them, so this has turned into a tick for tack fight, Allah says in the Quran:
“And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allaah, lest they insult Allaah wrongfully without knowledge”. [al-An’aam 6:108]
This goes for sacred symbols as well, we do not destroy or burn crosses, this is for Jesus alone, only he has the right to destroy the cross so therefore we should not burn their flags lest they burn our Quran in ignorance which would be again an insult to Allah almighty.
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WELL SAID!!!!!!
Salamz just could not help but agree.
By the horrid protest we'v seen from around the world its just proved that this ummah does not practise what we preach...peace.
Is it not a duty for everyone of this ummah to protest with such rage and anger and take to the streets as mindless mobs when people of the same ummah commit horrid atrocities in the name of the divine???????????
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I mean where was the rage when the towers were hit IN THE NAME OF ALLAH(SWT)?
Where was the rage when hundreads of children and innocent parents were murdered in the blood bath of Beslan.....also INTHE NAME OF ALLAH(SWT)
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The reason muslims around the world did these protests was because they are very weak. Now the only way a muslim can have there voice heard is through violence. Even though i do disagree with these protest across the globe it did leave some impact. Comedy central was going to play south park cartoons long time ago with Prophet Muhammed S.A.W. in it. But the television station choose not to because they feared another violent protest.
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Of course, the so-called "Arab street" is infamous for drop of the hat protests, some are state sponsored. The news media will flock to an Arab protest and capture images of burning American and Israeli flags, burning of effigies, etc. I know there were violent and dangerous "demonstrations", but I'm careful not to associate the orgies of destruction plastered on news channels as a true indication of how the majority of Muslims reacted to the cartoons.
Re: We need to watch our reactions over the cartoon issue
format_quote Originally Posted by muslimaprincess
WELL SAID!!!!!!
Salamz just could not help but agree.
By the horrid protest we'v seen from around the world its just proved that this ummah does not practise what we preach...peace.
Is it not a duty for everyone of this ummah to protest with such rage and anger and take to the streets as mindless mobs when people of the same ummah commit horrid atrocities in the name of the divine???????????
So now our prophets honor is being compared to 911. Muslims are told to love prophet Muhammed (allahs peace and blessing be upon him) more then our worldy material, more then our love ones, more then our parents, and more then ourself. Islam is peaceful to some extent we muslims love peace and want to live in peace. But some people who hate peace cannot be dealt with peace they should be dealt with violence as they bring violence. You do not go to war with love and peace you go with weapons and armor.
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I had read this hadith from another site (don't know if I'm allowed to link to it) and it clearly somes up what the Prophet (pbuh) might have done and I feel that it completely goes with the beginning post.
“You do not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you deal with them with forgiveness and kindness.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari)
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Europe is trying to fight physicological war here. They know if they slander Prophet Muhammed S.A.W we cannot slander Jesus Esa A.S.. The timing of the crusader pope right after sept 11/2006 pope makes his remarks about islam being violent Sept 12/2006. It just so happens he had to read the text the very next day. I will not condenm any type of anti danish or pope protest. Until europe condemn the cartoons and kicks pope off his seat.
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So now our prophets honor is being compared to 911. Muslims are told to love prophet Muhammed (allahs peace and blessing be upon him) more then our worldy material, more then our love ones, more then our parents, and more then ourself. Islam is peaceful to some extent we muslims love peace and want to live in peace. But some people who hate peace cannot be dealt with peace they should be dealt with violence as they bring violence. You do not go to war with love and peace you go with weapons and armor.
You misunderstood her, when commit commit attrocities in the name of Allah, it is just as bad as putting the name of Allah down the toilet, which officers at g bay did, due to september the 11th when they took a captives Qur'an a put it down the toilet. There are always consequences to think about. Those who stampeded in some love claim for the Prophet saws only blackened his name and reputation further. The ummahs a body, but it seems parts of the body is sleeping, specifically the brain.
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Until europe condemn the cartoons and kicks pope off his seat.
How does Europe "Condemn the cartoons"? Do you want an EU vote where every Europene can vote? Would you be satisfied with a 51% majority or do you need 100%?
And who is going to "Kick the Pope off his seat"? Another EU vote?
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Wheres the crowds when it comes to marching into Palestine???
I agree its time to fight, theres also many diffferent levels and laws that go with that.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Andaraawus
You misunderstood her, when commit commit attrocities in the name of Allah, it is just as bad as putting the name of Allah down the toilet, which officers at g bay did, due to september the 11th when they took a captives Qur'an a put it down the toilet. There are always consequences to think about. Those who stampeded in some love claim for the Prophet saws only blackened his name and reputation further. The ummahs a body, but it seems parts of the body is sleeping, specifically the brain.
Maybe muslims believe america had it coming. I think 911 shouldnt have happened but then agian i live in canada. It was the palestinians that danced on the streets.
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I agree that certain Muslims' violent reaction to the cartoons was completely wrong. Those that burned embassies or caused personal injury should be punished under the law.
Also, it's absurd to react violently when trying to deny an allegation that we are violent.
format_quote Originally Posted by Andaraawus
Wheres the crowds when it comes to marching into Palestine???
Wannabe cyber-jihadists would rather fight in Iraq and Afghanistan in some sort of perverse mirror-image of their gung-ho American and British counterparts. If we Muslims really cared about the Palestinians' suffering... they wouldn't be suffering right now. But we don't. We don't help them economically, we don't help them physically, we just whine that Israel has the help of a superpower and boycott her products without actually helping the people we feel sympathy for.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Islamicboy
Maybe muslims believe america had it coming. I think 911 shouldnt have happened but then agian i live in canada. It was the palestinians that danced on the streets.
So pardon me when I can't scrounge up any sympathy for the Palestinians (actually, I think it was more than just the Palestinians who danced). You could say that maybe Afghanistan 'had it coming', also.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Andaraawus
Bismillah ar Rahman Ar Rahim
Indeed conspiracy is of the devil that he may vex those who believe but he can harm them not at all except by Allahs permission so let the believers put their trust in Allah. 58:10 Quran
- must we get vex or is that want the devil wants?
AsalamuAlaykum,
1) Your red, Big writing is getting on my nerves.
2) what** (mistake correct it) the devil wants...
3) sorry bro i couldn't read it all, it's a bit long, inshaAllah sum it up...
jazakhala anyways!
"Whoever lives amongst you will see much differing, so adhere to my Sunnah" Muhammad (صلّى الله عليه و سلم)
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It was the palestinians that danced on the streets.
No bro, that was an old video clip potraying them to be happy at the attacks, the media can make anybody look criminal. It was prooved, however, that that video thy played was footage from many years before, it was convienient to their agenda to play it then.
Its not a matter of blame the Jews, no its more of a reality of the Israel lobby and their p.r's pulling the strings within the media machine.
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