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    Violence against women has increased dramatically since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. They have been kidnapped, killed, raped, and even sold to foreign countries for the global prostitution network, the Woman Freedom Organization (WFO), a Baghdad-based NGO, said in a report earlier this month.

    "We've studied reports from local NGOs on women's rights in the past three years, including violence, kidnappings, forced prostitution and honor killings," WFO President Senar Mohammad told Reuters. “And the extent to which women have lost their rights in Iraq is shocking."

    According to the WFO study, the most worrying trend was the kidnappings of women, many of whom reported being sexually abused or tortured. "Kidnapping and raping women has become so widespread that every woman worries that she may become the next victim. Very few women are seen on the streets. It was not like that before the war, no! Many are frightened to step out of their home,” an unidentified Iraqi woman said.

    More than 2,000 Iraqi women have been kidnapped since April 2003, the report said, adding that such incidents were largely unknown during Saddam Hussein’s regime. "Money has become more important than lives, and kidnapping women – easy targets because of their weakness – is a quicker way to get a good ransom," said Mohammad.

    Moreover, the study says that several Iraqi women were being sold as sex workers abroad, mainly to the illegal markets in Yemen, Syria, Jordan and the Gulf States. Victims usually discover their fate only after they have been lured outside Iraq by false promises.

    "They told my family that I was very beautiful and they were sure I could be a famous model outside Iraq," said one woman who was deceived by traffickers into going to Kuwait. "Because my brothers and father died in 2003, and we needed money desperately, my mother agreed that I should go."

    "But I discovered that everything was a lie, and I was forced to have sexual relations with men," she said painfully. "I lost my virginity to a 65-year-old man who bought me at a very high price and who slept with me everyday until I ran away and arranged my return to Iraq."

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    The report also raised concerns about the conditions of women detainees currently held in prisons run by the U.S. and UK occupation forces, pointing to the Al-Kadhimiya and Abu-Ghraib prisons in particular. "Based on our records and from anonymous information, we estimate that there are more than 250 women in these two prisons alone, who are exposed to different kinds of torture, including sexual abuses,” Mohammad said.

    "I was kidnapped and sexually abused," said Surra Abdu, who spent two months in al-Kadhimiya prison. "But after I was released and reported the matter to the police, they interrogated me and hurt me more, saying I was in cahoots with my jailers." Abdu added: "Is that the freedom and security offered to us when Saddam was toppled?"

    The Iraqi Interior Ministry denies that women detainees were regularly subject to mistreatment. "We're Muslims, and we know very well how to treat our women prisoners," said top ministry official Ahmed Youssifin.

    But the WFO rejects the government‘s assertions, insisting that it has abundant evidence of the abuse of women detainees. "It's very difficult to believe women are being well-treated in Iraqi prisons," he said. "Many times have I seen signs of torture and beatings on their faces after they were released."

    Some of the photos that U.S. guards shot at Abu Ghraib show a U.S. military policeman "having sex with an Iraqi woman," according to Maj Gen Taguba, who headed a 2005 investigation into abuses of female detainees at the hands of U.S. guards. The Taguba report also stated that U.S. guards committed other crimes against Iraqi women for their entertainment. "An Iraqi woman in her 70s had been harnessed and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib and another coalition detention center after being arrested last July," the report said.

    Lawyers of women prisoners also assert that U.S. guards had been raping women detainees and forcing them to strip naked in front of men. They also said that these crimes were being committed all across Iraq. According to an Iraqi female lawyer, identified as Swadi, a woman prisoner at a U.S. military base in al-Kharkh told her that “she had been raped… several American soldiers had raped her. She had tried to fight them off and they had hurt her arm.”

    There is reason to believe that these abuses are still going on. When Swadi tried to visit women detainees at Abu Ghraib recently, U.S. guards refused to let her in. When she complained, they threatened to arrest her.

    It is obvious that these abuses are horrible. What is so painful is that the oppression of Iraqi women won’t end soon. It will also have a devastating impact on the way of life of the Iraqi people -- thanks to the U.S./UK invasion.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Knut Hamsun View Post
    Why wouldn't you present....? If you think you are right, then you should present your position. Right?

    Hello at first we try to explain nicley and what do you do?? you get sarcy and then when we get ticked off you call it rude!??

    whatever mate if you dont like it dont dish it simple!

    i tried to explain to you on many occasions all you have come out with is sarcastic questions and remarks to offend the suffering of many in the middle east...

    you seem to have no care for any race but yours guess your the only one who is human is it!??

    i dont agree with what happend on 9/11 but i have tried on numreous occasions to explain that its not as simple as that obviously think why did 9/11 happen!!

    what to spread islam in the west!?? please what a joke!

    answer why 9/11 happened and you will answer why so many muslims are turning to violence today!

    its called they have no otherpath to turn to...
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    i tried to explain to you on many occasions all you have come out with is sarcastic questions and remarks to offend the suffering of many in the middle east...
    Sorry if you think this is the case; and my intentions are not to "offend the suffering...", but to highlight the excessive blame that many muslims assign to "the west". I have never claimed that the west has clean hands; nor have I claimed that everything they have done was done in the name of justice. After all, nations act in their own interests to protect those interests. You have asked Malsidabym in another thread why the US/Israel both possess nukes and find it just to prevent "hostile" (note the quote marks) nations from attaining them. It is simply that is 100% contrary to their interests to allow it. Do you really think that the world would be safer if Iran has deployable nuclear weapons? I think you also asked why doesn't the US/Israel give up their nukes, on the condition that no one should have them. Please be honest; do you think that "hostile" countries would stay true to their word? And if they violated their word, the US or Israel would be in a lot of trouble, right? So there is your answer. Someone will always want to be in charge; if one country does not step up, another will.

    you seem to have no care for any race but yours guess your the only one who is human is it!??
    You are wrong, my friend.

    i dont agree with what happend on 9/11 but i have tried on numreous occasions to explain that its not as simple as that obviously think why did 9/11 happen!!
    You are right, it is not so simple... And I have thought about why 9/11 happened, and I find NO excuse for such expressions of rage. This doesn't mean that I don't think some people are legitimately frustrated; it is the "system" of ideas/religion they use to express this violent rage that I detest and will never accept.

    answer why 9/11 happened and you will answer why so many muslims are turning to violence today!
    I have answered this, as much as I think I can, for myself. I just do not find it to be either an excuse for such a style of violence nor a rational answer that "entitles" some muslims to blame everyone else but things within their systems, countries, and reach.

    its called they have no otherpath to turn to...
    What about changing their countries? Economic boycotts? Economic expansion of their own? Acceptance of the realities and benefits of globalism (whether they like the west or not)? Armed struggle against their own leaders? All require more patience than the "swift revenge of terrorism", but will reap some actual rewards.

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    you seem to have no care for any race but yours guess your the only one who is human is it!??
    How did you manage to pull the race card in this discussion? Race was not mentioned. Unless iraqis are thier own race. Or muslims are thier own race. Calling another member a racist is a very serious accusation and should not be taken lightly.
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    Re: After Saddam, Iraqi women are used as sex objects

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rou View Post
    Is this your answer??

    pathetic....

    To mahdisoldier19 -

    brother these are nothing but children god knows how much time isbeing wasted here to them it is but a game!

    they have no real answers....

    they have watched the news and are stirred up.
    This is sad really. The answer he gave was so silly it didn't warrant an aswer but I'll give one any way.

    Ummmmmm Yes Because One Time in A Masjit that a friend of mine was attending OBL Spoke out against Saddam after this whole situation and deals with Saddam.
    I just posted where several meetings were set up between the 2. There's a saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

    Umm If you used Your logic Bin laden main goal is to disband any Western Influence in Muslim Nations.
    The main goal quoted by Osama is to get the US off of sacred ground. Who else in the region would help him do that?

    So Umm Im not first of All Going to believe the Commission reports considering they also say when the buildings hit the towers the Fire was so extreme and yet you seen one of the hijackers passports on the ground i mean seriously whats going on here?
    Let's see your source for this. There must be a picture out there or is this an everybody in my neighborhood knows this type of scenario
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    Well if you did your homework which you never do because all you seem to do is post like you know something. Why dont you do alittle search around, where you there in NYC? No i was i remember it and i To This day Contacted the fire fighters , they themselves dont believe OBL did it.
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    Re: After Saddam, Iraqi women are used as sex objects

    format_quote Originally Posted by Knut Hamsun View Post
    Sorry if you think this is the case; and my intentions are not to "offend the suffering...", but to highlight the excessive blame that many muslims assign to "the west". I have never claimed that the west has clean hands; nor have I claimed that everything they have done was done in the name of justice. After all, nations act in their own interests to protect those interests. You have asked Malsidabym in another thread why the US/Israel both possess nukes and find it just to prevent "hostile" (note the quote marks) nations from attaining them. It is simply that is 100% contrary to their interests to allow it. Do you really think that the world would be safer if Iran has deployable nuclear weapons? I think you also asked why doesn't the US/Israel give up their nukes, on the condition that no one should have them. Please be honest; do you think that "hostile" countries would stay true to their word? And if they violated their word, the US or Israel would be in a lot of trouble, right? So there is your answer. Someone will always want to be in charge; if one country does not step up, another will.



    You are wrong, my friend.



    You are right, it is not so simple... And I have thought about why 9/11 happened, and I find NO excuse for such expressions of rage. This doesn't mean that I don't think some people are legitimately frustrated; it is the "system" of ideas/religion they use to express this violent rage that I detest and will never accept.



    I have answered this, as much as I think I can, for myself. I just do not find it to be either an excuse for such a style of violence nor a rational answer that "entitles" some muslims to blame everyone else but things within their systems, countries, and reach.



    What about changing their countries? Economic boycotts? Economic expansion of their own? Acceptance of the realities and benefits of globalism (whether they like the west or not)? Armed struggle against their own leaders? All require more patience than the "swift revenge of terrorism", but will reap some actual rewards.

    Cordially,
    Knut
    So your a hypocrit?

    so hostile countries like USA and israel are allowed them but no other hostile country is? is it?

    define hostle! and you will find what the USA is doing may come into that realm! slightly! what is your lots points with your posts!?? they hold no eveidence nor disprove any one elses they are just mindless childish babble...
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Malsidabym View Post
    How did you manage to pull the race card in this discussion? Race was not mentioned. Unless iraqis are thier own race. Or muslims are thier own race. Calling another member a racist is a very serious accusation and should not be taken lightly.
    After your childish out burst im not sure anything you say is worth while...

    but for knuts answer to this... race as in americans if you wish to get tech about it than that is your decison....

    i will rephrase then your people are the only ones that matter you care for no other humans...
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    format_quote Originally Posted by mahdisoldier19 View Post
    Well if you did your homework which you never do because all you seem to do is post like you know something. Why dont you do alittle search around, where you there in NYC? No i was i remember it and i To This day Contacted the fire fighters , they themselves dont believe OBL did it.
    brother-in-law works down there as a market analyst on wall street. Nice try to though. Once again I post my source let's see yours.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Rou View Post
    After your childish out burst im not sure anything you say is worth while...

    but for knuts answer to this... race as in americans if you wish to get tech about it than that is your decison....

    i will rephrase then your people are the only ones that matter you care for no other humans...
    Americans is a culture not a race. Arab, African American, Indian, Italian, those are all races.
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    Brother in law works down there as a market analyst, Lol Thats your brother in law whats that have to do with anything? I work a few blocks down from the Twin towers. So does my uncle and so does the rest of my family and the few friends that i lost on that dreadful day. Oh btw my uncle Owns apartment buildings in the village of Manhattan. Oh btw i work in manhattan, not for wall street but for pizza street taxi. So your point is? Do you even know where wall street is? What does your brother in law have to do with this subject? Im asking you not your brother in law? Buddy I feel sorry for you
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    format_quote Originally Posted by knuckles View Post
    Americans is a culture not a race. Arab, African American, Indian, Italian, those are all races.
    ??? hello is anyone home in there thats why i rephrased it!?
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    i will rephrase then your people are the only ones that matter you care for no other humans...
    Thanks for the response Darktide.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Malsidabym View Post
    Thanks for the response Darktide.
    as i said i didnt answer you i answered knut! after your cry baby act you seem to have fallen a bit too low or me to bother anymore...
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    format_quote Originally Posted by mahdisoldier19 View Post
    Brother in law works down there as a market analyst, Lol Thats your brother in law whats that have to do with anything? I work a few blocks down from the Twin towers. So does my uncle and so does the rest of my family and the few friends that i lost on that dreadful day. Oh btw my uncle Owns apartment buildings in the village of Manhattan. Oh btw i work in manhattan, not for wall street but for pizza street taxi. So your point is? Do you even know where wall street is? What does your brother in law have to do with this subject? Im asking you not your brother in law? Buddy I feel sorry for you
    That's fine show me where they found the passport of one of the hijakers. An article, a video, a photo. Anything.
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    The first 2 sites look like sites I could put together in my basement. The third looks legit. I'd have to do more research into it.
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    “Allah has promised to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, as He granted it to those before them, that He will establish in authority their Deen which he has chosen for them, and that He will change (their state) after the fear in which they lived, to one of security and peace: They will worship Me (alone) and not ascribe powers to any beside Me” [TMQ 24: 55].


    Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims regain their honour, dignity and its super power. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim lands be free of corrupt and kofr systems of democracy and secularism. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim ummah be able to defend its women, children and old people. Only witht he return of khilafah will the muslim ummah once again be at its glorious and leading position as Allah swt says: You are the best ummah brought forth to mankind, you forbid the evil and invite to the good and you have Iman in Allah and the last day.

    Only with the return of the khilafah will the muslims once again see a daylight and rejoice. Only with the return of khilafah will palestine be freed from evil jewish, Allah curse them ( ameen)

    Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims fullfil their duty towards their Deen and towards Allah swt and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam.

    Only with the re-establishment of khilafah rasheedah will the muslim ummah defend Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam. Therefor oh muslim ummah take a stand, and make your voice heard in the 4 corners of the world. Let the world see your love for Muhammed sallallahu alayhi wa salam by implenting his system on earth. By impelenting the system of rasool sallallahi alayhi wa salam you will indeed defend him (saw) fully and show your real love for him (saw)

    Make your voice high and call for the defence of Islam and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam by calling for the re-establishment of Al Khilafah Rasheedah.

    Allah swt. says.

    "O' you who believe, respond to Allah and His messenger when He call you to that which will give you life, And know that Allah cometh in between and his heart, and that It is He to whom you shall all be gathered."
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Caliphate View Post
    “Allah has promised to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, as He granted it to those before them, that He will establish in authority their Deen which he has chosen for them, and that He will change (their state) after the fear in which they lived, to one of security and peace: They will worship Me (alone) and not ascribe powers to any beside Me” [TMQ 24: 55].


    Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims regain their honour, dignity and its super power. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim lands be free of corrupt and kofr systems of democracy and secularism. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim ummah be able to defend its women, children and old people. Only witht he return of khilafah will the muslim ummah once again be at its glorious and leading position as Allah swt says: You are the best ummah brought forth to mankind, you forbid the evil and invite to the good and you have Iman in Allah and the last day.

    Only with the return of the khilafah will the muslims once again see a daylight and rejoice. Only with the return of khilafah will palestine be freed from evil jewish, Allah curse them ( ameen)

    Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims fullfil their duty towards their Deen and towards Allah swt and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam.

    Only with the re-establishment of khilafah rasheedah will the muslim ummah defend Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam. Therefor oh muslim ummah take a stand, and make your voice heard in the 4 corners of the world. Let the world see your love for Muhammed sallallahu alayhi wa salam by implenting his system on earth. By impelenting the system of rasool sallallahi alayhi wa salam you will indeed defend him (saw) fully and show your real love for him (saw)

    Make your voice high and call for the defence of Islam and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam by calling for the re-establishment of Al Khilafah Rasheedah.

    Allah swt. says.

    "O' you who believe, respond to Allah and His messenger when He call you to that which will give you life, And know that Allah cometh in between and his heart, and that It is He to whom you shall all be gathered."
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    Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims regain their honour, dignity and its super power.
    With what practical means are you going to begin to initiate the return of the "caliphate"? Any ideas?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Caliphate View Post
    “Allah has promised to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that of a certainty, He will cause them to accede to power on earth, as He granted it to those before them, that He will establish in authority their Deen which he has chosen for them, and that He will change (their state) after the fear in which they lived, to one of security and peace: They will worship Me (alone) and not ascribe powers to any beside Me” [TMQ 24: 55].


    Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims regain their honour, dignity and its super power. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim lands be free of corrupt and kofr systems of democracy and secularism. Only with the return of khilafah will the muslim ummah be able to defend its women, children and old people. Only witht he return of khilafah will the muslim ummah once again be at its glorious and leading position as Allah swt says: You are the best ummah brought forth to mankind, you forbid the evil and invite to the good and you have Iman in Allah and the last day.

    Only with the return of the khilafah will the muslims once again see a daylight and rejoice. Only with the return of khilafah will palestine be freed from evil jewish, Allah curse them ( ameen)

    Only with the return of khilafah will the muslims fullfil their duty towards their Deen and towards Allah swt and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam.

    Only with the re-establishment of khilafah rasheedah will the muslim ummah defend Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam. Therefor oh muslim ummah take a stand, and make your voice heard in the 4 corners of the world. Let the world see your love for Muhammed sallallahu alayhi wa salam by implenting his system on earth. By impelenting the system of rasool sallallahi alayhi wa salam you will indeed defend him (saw) fully and show your real love for him (saw)

    Make your voice high and call for the defence of Islam and Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa salam by calling for the re-establishment of Al Khilafah Rasheedah.

    Allah swt. says.

    "O' you who believe, respond to Allah and His messenger when He call you to that which will give you life, And know that Allah cometh in between and his heart, and that It is He to whom you shall all be gathered."
    Inshallah sister...

    it will return...

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