North Korea Conducts Successful nuclear test

**Wahid** · 10-09-2006

North Korea claims nuclear test
South Koreans watch television in the wake of North Korea's reported nuclear test
There was concern among South Koreans at the news
North Korea says it has carried out its first test of a nuclear weapon, the state news agency (KCNA) has reported.

It said the underground test, carried out in defiance of international warnings, was a success and had not resulted in any leak of radiation.

The White House said South Korean and US intelligence had detected a seismic event at a suspected test site.

The White House said, if confirmed, the test would be a "provocative act", while China denounced it as "brazen".

In its strongest statement ever against its ally, China expressed its "resolute opposition" to the claimed test and said it "defied the universal opposition of international society".

Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said the test was "unpardonable".

We expect the UN Security Council to take immediate actions to respond to this unprovoked act

South Korea said it would "sternly respond".

President Roh Moo-hyun has called an emergency meeting of South Korea's National Security Council and put the armed forces on a heightened state of alert.

Seoul also suspended a scheduled aid shipment to North Korea, the state news agency reported.

US White House spokesman Tony Snow said: "We expect the UN Security Council to take immediate actions to respond to this unprovoked act."

'Historic event'

The US Geological Survey said it had detected a 4.2 magnitude quake in North Korea, while a South Korean official said a 3.5 magnitude seismic tremor had been detected in north Hamgyong province, in the north-east.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency is reporting that the test took place in Gilju in Hamgyong province at 1036 (0136 GMT).

A top Russian military officer said it was "100%" certain that an underground nuclear explosion had taken place.

When it announced the test, KCNA described it as an "historic event that brought happiness to our military and people".

"The nuclear test will contribute to maintaining peace and stability in the Korean peninsula and surrounding region," KCNA said.

The region has been on high alert since North Korea announced last week that it would conduct a nuclear test.

Shinzo Abe is in Seoul for a meeting with Mr Roh, a day after talks in Beijing.

Mr Abe said Japan wanted to co-ordinate its response with the South Koreans, and was also in contact with the US and China.

In Tokyo, ministers were called to an urgent meeting, and the government set up a special task force.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6032525.stm

**akulion** · 10-11-2006

well why dont u watch todays news?

sanctions on their way - full economic embargo

and yup there were sanctions on them before by which they could not import export many materials plus not to mention how they have been getting pressurized for ages now by the west with the stand off

i think the un is just another face for the us and what it wants to do which is to control everyone lol

From old archive of BBC: Wednesday, 21 June, 2000

North Korea has urged the United States to lift all sanctions against it, saying that this would further improve relations between the two countries.

At the same time, it reaffirmed that Pyongyang's self-imposed moratorium on missile-testing remained in place.

Washington announced on Monday that it was easing sanctions against North Korea after almost 50 years.

**Keltoi** · 10-11-2006

Originally Posted by akulion

well why dont u watch todays news?

sanctions on their way - full economic embargo

and yup there were sanctions on them before by which they could not import export many materials plus not to mention how they have been getting pressurized for ages now by the west with the stand off

i think the un is just another face for the us and what it wants to do which is to control everyone lol

From old archive of BBC: Wednesday, 21 June, 2000

There are differences in sanctions. The sanctions on North Korea weren't that effective since China did business with NK. Blaming the U.N. or half-hearted sanctions for the state of the North Korean people is extremely dishonest. Kim Jung Ill and Saddam had alot in common in that they cared more about their palaces and mansions and military buildup than they did about feeding their citizens. I for one hope for a full trade embargo, with certain economic aid still given for the benefit of the people of North Korea. That doesn't mean the money given to North Korea will actually go to the people for which it was intended. The Oil For Food program with Saddam is a perfect example of that.

**akulion** · 10-11-2006

Originally Posted by Keltoi

There are differences in sanctions. The sanctions on North Korea weren't that effective since China did business with NK. Blaming the U.N. or half-hearted sanctions for the state of the North Korean people is extremely dishonest. Kim Jung Ill and Saddam had alot in common in that they cared more about their palaces and mansions and military buildup than they did about feeding their citizens. I for one hope for a full trade embargo, with certain economic aid still given for the benefit of the people of North Korea. That doesn't mean the money given to North Korea will actually go to the people for which it was intended. The Oil For Food program with Saddam is a perfect example of that.

yea saddam hussein and Kim Jung Ill have a lot in common - i can bet on it

Dosent take much to find out the real culprits behind all the warring and unrest around the world going on - that is if ur willing to accept the facts...

especially with regards to stuff like this im sure:

14 iran iraq war - North Korea Conducts Successful nuclear test

Best Friends Saddam(Iraq Rep) & Rumsfeild (USA rep) shaking hands in Iraq while Saddam still slaughtered his own people yet USA was ok with it and even supplied arms and political backing to him back then, so why the sudden change?

If anyone has a hard time believing what I just said please read the following:

October, 1983. The Reagan Administration begins secretly allowing Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Egypt to transfer United States weapons, including Howitzers, Huey helicopters, and bombs to Iraq. These shipments violated the Arms Export Control Act. [16]

November 1983. George Schultz, the Secretary of State, is given intelligence reports showing that Iraqi troops are daily using chemical weapons against the Iranians. [1]

December 20, 1983. Donald Rumsfeld , then a civilian and now Defense Secretary, meets with Saddam Hussein to assure him of US friendship and materials support. [1] & [15]

July, 1984. CIA begins giving Iraq intelligence necessary to calibrate its mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops. [19]

January 14, 1984. State Department memo acknowledges United States shipment of "dual-use" export hardware and technology. Dual use items are civilian items such as heavy trucks, armored ambulances and communications gear as well as industrial technology that can have a military application. [2]

March, 1986. The United States with Great Britain block all Security Council resolutions condemning Iraq's use of chemical weapons, and on March 21 the US becomes the only country refusing to sign a Security Council statement condemning Iraq's use of these weapons. [10]

May, 1986. The US Department of Commerce licenses 70 biological exports to Iraq between May of 1985 and 1989, including at least 21 batches of lethal strains of anthrax. [3]

May, 1986. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of weapons grade botulin poison to Iraq. [7]

March, 1987. President Reagan bows to the findings of the Tower Commission admitting the sale of arms to Iran in exchange for hostages. Oliver North uses the profits from the sale to fund an illegal war in Nicaragua. [17]

Late 1987. The Iraqi Air Force begins using chemical agents against Kurdish resistance forces in northern Iraq. [1]

February, 1988. Saddam Hussein begins the "Anfal" campaign against the Kurds of northern Iraq. The Iraq regime used chemical weapons against the Kurds killing over 100,000 civilians and destroying over 1,200 Kurdish villages. [8]

April, 1988. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of chemicals used in manufacture of mustard gas. [7]

August, 1988. Four major battles were fought from April to August 1988, in which the Iraqis massively and effectively used chemical weapons to defeat the Iranians. Nerve gas and blister agents such as mustard gas are used. By this time the US Defense Intelligence Agency is heavily involved with Saddam Hussein in battle plan assistance, intelligence gathering and post battle debriefing. In the last major battle with of the war, 65,000 Iranians are killed, many with poison gas. Use of chemical weapons in war is in violation of the Geneva accords of 1925. [6] & [13]

August, 1988. Iraq and Iran declare a cease fire. [8]

August, 1988. Five days after the cease fire Saddam Hussein sends his planes and helicopters to northern Iraq to begin massive chemical attacks against the Kurds. [8]

September, 1988. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of weapons grade anthrax and botulinum to Iraq. [7]

September, 1988. Richard Murphy, Assistant Secretary of State: "The US-Iraqi relationship is... important to our long-term political and economic objectives." [15]

December, 1988. Dow chemical sells $1.5 million in pesticides to Iraq despite knowledge that these would be used in chemical weapons. [1]

July 25, 1990. US Ambassador to Baghdad meets with Hussein to assure him that President Bush "wanted better and deeper relations". Many believe this visit was a trap set for Hussein. A month later Hussein invaded Kuwait thinking the US would not respond. [12]

References:
1 Washingtonpost.com. December 30, 2002
2 Jonathan Broder. Nuclear times, Winter 1990-91
3 Kurt Nimno. AlterNet. September 23, 2002
4 Newyorktimes.com. August 29, 2002
5 ABC Nightline. June9, 1992
6 Counter Punch, October 10, 2002
7 Riegle Report: Dual Use Exports. Senate Committee on Banking. May 25, 1994
8 Timeline: A walk Through Iraq's History. U.S. Department of State
9 Doing Business: The Arming of Iraq. Daniel Robichear
10 Glen Rangwala. Labor Left Briefing, 16 September, 2002
11 Financial Times of London. July 3, 1991
12 Elson E. Boles. Counter Punch. October 10, 2002
13 Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988. Iranchamber.com
14 Columbia Journalism Review. March/April 1993. Iraqgate
15 Times Online. December 31, 2002. How U.S. Helped Iraq Build Deadly Arsenal
16 Bush's Secret Mission. The New Yorker Magazine. November 2, 1992
17 Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia: Iran-Contra Affair
18 Congressional Record. July 27, 1992. Representative Henry B. Gonzalez
19 Bob Woodward. CIA Aiding Iraq in Gulf War. Washington Post. 15 December, 1986
20 Case Study: The Anfal Campaign. www . gendercide . com

**Keltoi** · 10-11-2006

Nice way to change the subject. I don't see how this relates to North Korea supposedly testing a nuclear weapon. That being said, France and Russia did far more business with Iraq in the weapons department, and the picture of Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand seems quite striking I know. The enemy of my enemy is my friend is a basic tenent of national foreign policy of any nation. At the time Iran was considered more of a threat to national security than Saddam Hussein, and with Iraq involved in a war with our enemy, it shouldn't come as a surprise that Saddam and the U.S. benefited from this circumstance. That being said, perhaps you've noticed that the weapons used by the Iraqi army were of Russian manufacture, not American. Obviously the relationship wasn't as friendly as that of the U.S. and Pakistan, for example.

Now that this diversion is hopefully over, can we get back on the topic of North Korea?

**akulion** · 10-12-2006

You cant see the common denominator ?

Its funny how everywhere there is conflict in the world the US seems to have a foot or arm in it...isnt it?

**doodlebug** · 10-13-2006

Originally Posted by badrulhisyam

by hook or by crook, to be a powerful and respected nation,n.korea set a good example to all islamic country. patient,preseverance, determination courage and wits are the ingredient that we should have.
Muslimalloverthe world must prepare themselves so that others willnot look down on us. For a start,lets focus on education cause it is the key to success.insyaallah.

Pretty hard to focus on education when there is no electricity. FYI that wee lil dot of brightness in N. Korea is where Kim Jung Ill and his buddies live. The rest of that poor nation is blacked out as of 9pm. I hope all islamic countries don't use N. Korea as a "best practice" type of government.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811

**doodlebug** · 10-13-2006

Originally Posted by akulion

its funny the west puts sanctions on a country

then when its poeple start to starve it says "look its the govts doing"

perfect example?

Iraq oil for food program

How is that a perfect example? Saddam was taking that money and NOT feeding the poor.

**wilberhum** · 10-13-2006

North Korea Conducts Successful nuclear test

Well, maybe not. Maybe just some other explosive was used.
No radiation = no nuke. And it was 1/8 the power expected.

**terrellowens** · 10-13-2006

Originally Posted by akulion

...its funny the west puts sanctions on a country
then when its poeple start to starve it says "look its the govts doing" perfect example? Iraq oil for food program

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/n...n/15745399.htm

North Korean client list is said to take in Iran, Syria, 16 others

Here's what really scares the world about Pyongyang's nuclear test

By Katherine Shrader
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - North Korea's claimed test of a nuclear weapon is only the tip of what frightens the rest of the world. The country has shown itself to be a virtual bazaar for spreading missiles, conventional weapons, and nuclear technology around the globe.

Pyongyang has sold its military goods to at least 18 countries, mostly in Africa and the Middle East, according to U.S. officials and outside experts. That is a good indication, officials warn, that North Korea might sell nuclear weapons if doing so would bring hard currency into the impoverished communist state.

North Korea's catalog has included ballistic missiles and related components, conventional weapons such as mobile rocket launchers, and nuclear technology. It is also possible, the officials say, that Pyongyang has sold components that could be part of biological or chemical munitions.

The U.S. officials and others interviewed this week about North Korea's weapons trade spoke on the condition that they not be identified, given the tense situation between the two countries.

On Wednesday, the United States circulated a draft resolution at the United Nations that condemns North Korea's proclaimed nuclear test on Monday as in "flagrant disregard" of U.N resolutions and "a clear threat to international peace and security."

The resolution calls for a ban on all North Korean arms sales and travel by people involved in North Korea's weapons program. It also would require countries to freeze all assets related to North Korea's weapons and missile programs.

In admonishing North Korea for its purported nuclear test, President Bush called Pyongyang "one of the world's leading proliferators of missile technology, including transfers to Iran and Syria."

North Korea's customer list, going back to the mid-1980s, goes beyond those two countries. U.S. officials and outside experts report sales of missiles or related components to Egypt, Pakistan, Libya, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen.

Pyongyang is also believed to have engaged in deals for cruise missiles and other wares with most of those countries and Angola, Burma, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iraq, Rwanda, Sudan, Uganda, Vietnam, Zaire and Zimbabwe.

North Korea is also believed to have shared its nuclear technology. Government officials have said publicly that A.Q. Khan - the Pakistani scientist who confessed in 2004 to running an illegal nuclear market - had close connections with North Korea, trading in equipment, facilitating international deals for components, and swapping nuclear know-how.

Also of concern is that North Korea sells its weaponry to unstable or undemocratic states that may not have adequate control over their arsenals. That includes Iran and Syria, said Rep. Mike Rogers (R., Mich.), chairman of the House intelligence policy subcommittee that recently issued a Republican-drafted report on the North Korean threat.

In another case, "Yemen is trying to help [the United States], and they have made some public efforts - at least in P.R. efforts - when it comes to helping us on terrorism," Rogers said. "But Yemen has a troubled history."

Rogers' report, which was reviewed by the U.S. intelligence community, says North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il has a personal fortune estimated at $4 billion, "at least partially amassed through drug and missile sales and counterfeiting."

The United States leads the world in arms sales to developing nations. While North Korea is believed to make hundreds of millions of dollars annually from weapons sales, that may be shrinking, in part because of international pressure to avoid the unpredictable government.

Sounds like Jong is living 'la vida loca' while his people starve.

**akulion** · 10-13-2006

Originally Posted by doodlebug

How is that a perfect example? Saddam was taking that money and NOT feeding the poor.

the example is good because u didnt read the post i made about saddam husein and who was behind him in the 1st place

so him being there and supressing his people and the embargoes can all be blamed on one and that the US who supported him woleheartedly until they decided to turn their back on him and attck (read my last post - the long one)

**wilberhum** · 10-13-2006

The enemy of my enemy is my friend is a mistake every government has made. Nothing new here. The US even gave ade to OBL. That is old news too. Manybe some day we will learn, but I doubt it.

**akulion** · 10-13-2006

this was no mistake it seems - supplying chemical weapons is a mistake?

nah i dont think so and then to turn around and say they have WMD's? a mistake? lol

and then to top it off back the "oil for food program" despite knowing they are themselves guilty?

And the grandest of them all - declaring him an enemy despite knowing there were no WMD's and then waging war and killiong over 600000 (yes six hundred thousand casualties in Iraq) people ?

its no mistake in my view - its a long drawn out plot

once again i say read my last post in detial

**akulion** · 10-13-2006

Originally Posted by terrellowens

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/n...n/15745399.htm

Rogers' report, which was reviewed by the U.S. intelligence community, says North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il has a personal fortune estimated at $4 billion, "at least partially amassed through drug and missile sales and counterfeiting."

Sounds like Jong is living 'la vida loca' while his people starve.

the not unusual for any dictator - the issue is why does the us wana stop anyone from having Nuclear weapons while they have it themselves?

Pakistan they tried to stop - while turning a blind eye to India
Egypt they tried and stoped - while they aided Isreal in building them
Iran cant have them either

i mean come on where do the double standards stop?

I guess the USA is worried that sooner or later someone dosent pull the "they have weapons of mass destruction" scheme on the usa, AFTER they develop nuclear weapons with a delivery system

Cos after all - what goes around comes around eventually

***Hana*** · 10-13-2006

Originally Posted by doodlebug

How is that a perfect example? Saddam was taking that money and NOT feeding the poor.

Salam Alaikum sister:

You have to understand that prior to the USA imposed sanctions, the American government were well aware of what Saddam was capable of doing to his own people. Prior to the sanctions people were not dying of starvation, or dying because they couldn't get medicine, etc. The sanctions were the cause of that and they knew full well Saddam would not use that money for his people. Who suffered because of the sanctions? Who was it meant to hurt? Innocent civilians die from sanctions, not government officials. It wasn't a matter of him not feeding the poor. Sanctions MADE almost everyone poor! Saddam took the money to build 7 palaces while people died and the USA, who imposed the sanctions, watched. When the USA saw what was happening due to sanctions, why didn't they lift them to save the people?

The same analogy can be used for the USA illegal invasion of Iraq. The American government knew from day one they were lying about having a reason to invade. Saddam is still alive, being fed and cared for while the innocents are continuing to die. You think the American government didn't know the civilian casualities would be high? You think they cared they were lying to thier own soldiers and were willing to sacrifice their lives for a lie? Ask those mothers in Iraq that had to bury thier children if sanctions were worth it and if their lives were better before or after sanctions. Ask any Iraqi if their lives have improved since being "liberated". Ask the mother of a young american soldier who was returned to her in a body bag because of a lie, if it was worth it? The American people know, without a doubt, Bush lied and soldiers are dying because of it. Ask most soldiers if they want to be there and are they willingly risking their lives for it. You think all those soldiers are proud to be serving in Iraq? Many, if not most, are not. They have no one to blame except their own government that sent them there.

The responsibility of the slaughter in both cases is obvious....the American government fueled by greed with absolutely no concern over the death and destruction they cause.

Wa'alaikum salam,
Hana

**Keltoi** · 10-13-2006

Originally Posted by akulion

this was no mistake it seems - supplying chemical weapons is a mistake?

nah i dont think so and then to turn around and say they have WMD's? a mistake? lol

and then to top it off back the "oil for food program" despite knowing they are themselves guilty?

And the grandest of them all - declaring him an enemy despite knowing there were no WMD's and then waging war and killiong over 600000 (yes six hundred thousand casualties in Iraq) people ?

its no mistake in my view - its a long drawn out plot

once again i say read my last post in detial

There are quite a few misconceptions and falsehoods in your post.

(1) The U.S. did not "supply" chemical weapons to Saddam. The people that say this point to some industrial and agricultural chemicals that could have been altered to produce a chemical agent, which can be said about every country on Earth.

(2) WMD. You have to put the WMD debate in the context of a post-9-11 foreign policy. The greatest fear of the intelligence community in the U.S. was that a rogue regime would supply a terrorist group with chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons. The international community had their intelligence agencies come up with the worst possible scenario, and each one, including Russia, France, Great Britain, and many more, felt that Saddam posed the greatest risk in this area. Saddam refused to cooperate in weapons inspections and the rest is history.

(3) Blaming the U.S. for the Oil for Food program is simply not based in reality. The problem with Oil for Food was Saddam himself, who instead of using these funds for his people's needs, built new palaces and increased military spending.

(4) Then we have the "600,000" Iraqi dead statistical estimate, which isn't about how many Iraqis were killed by Americans, it is about how many Iraqis have died from violent causes since the Iraq War began, ranging from criminal activity, Sunni and Shia death squads, stampedes at religious events, etc. Extremely misleading in this context.

**akulion** · 10-13-2006

uuumm u didnt read my last post did u?

go back one page and read the long one i posted there with the pic of saddam and rumsfeld

**akulion** · 10-13-2006

I had a feeling u might ignore it again

so ill post it right here

wwwislamicboardcom - North Korea Conducts Successful nuclear test

Best Friends Saddam(Iraq Rep) & Rumsfeild (USA rep) shaking hands in Iraq while Saddam still slaughtered his own people yet USA was ok with it and even supplied arms and political backing to him back then, so why the sudden change?

If anyone has a hard time believing what I just said please read the following:

October, 1983. The Reagan Administration begins secretly allowing Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Egypt to transfer United States weapons, including Howitzers, Huey helicopters, and bombs to Iraq. These shipments violated the Arms Export Control Act. [16]

November 1983. George Schultz, the Secretary of State, is given intelligence reports showing that Iraqi troops are daily using chemical weapons against the Iranians. [1]

December 20, 1983. Donald Rumsfeld , then a civilian and now Defense Secretary, meets with Saddam Hussein to assure him of US friendship and materials support. [1] & [15]

July, 1984. CIA begins giving Iraq intelligence necessary to calibrate its mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops. [19]

January 14, 1984. State Department memo acknowledges United States shipment of "dual-use" export hardware and technology. Dual use items are civilian items such as heavy trucks, armored ambulances and communications gear as well as industrial technology that can have a military application. [2]

March, 1986. The United States with Great Britain block all Security Council resolutions condemning Iraq's use of chemical weapons, and on March 21 the US becomes the only country refusing to sign a Security Council statement condemning Iraq's use of these weapons. [10]

May, 1986. The US Department of Commerce licenses 70 biological exports to Iraq between May of 1985 and 1989, including at least 21 batches of lethal strains of anthrax. [3]

May, 1986. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of weapons grade botulin poison to Iraq. [7]

March, 1987. President Reagan bows to the findings of the Tower Commission admitting the sale of arms to Iran in exchange for hostages. Oliver North uses the profits from the sale to fund an illegal war in Nicaragua. [17]

Late 1987. The Iraqi Air Force begins using chemical agents against Kurdish resistance forces in northern Iraq. [1]

February, 1988. Saddam Hussein begins the "Anfal" campaign against the Kurds of northern Iraq. The Iraq regime used chemical weapons against the Kurds killing over 100,000 civilians and destroying over 1,200 Kurdish villages. [8]

April, 1988. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of chemicals used in manufacture of mustard gas. [7]

August, 1988. Four major battles were fought from April to August 1988, in which the Iraqis massively and effectively used chemical weapons to defeat the Iranians. Nerve gas and blister agents such as mustard gas are used. By this time the US Defense Intelligence Agency is heavily involved with Saddam Hussein in battle plan assistance, intelligence gathering and post battle debriefing. In the last major battle with of the war, 65,000 Iranians are killed, many with poison gas. Use of chemical weapons in war is in violation of the Geneva accords of 1925. [6] & [13]

August, 1988. Iraq and Iran declare a cease fire. [8]

August, 1988. Five days after the cease fire Saddam Hussein sends his planes and helicopters to northern Iraq to begin massive chemical attacks against the Kurds. [8]

September, 1988. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of weapons grade anthrax and botulinum to Iraq. [7]

September, 1988. Richard Murphy, Assistant Secretary of State: "The US-Iraqi relationship is... important to our long-term political and economic objectives." [15]

December, 1988. Dow chemical sells $1.5 million in pesticides to Iraq despite knowledge that these would be used in chemical weapons. [1]

July 25, 1990. US Ambassador to Baghdad meets with Hussein to assure him that President Bush "wanted better and deeper relations". Many believe this visit was a trap set for Hussein. A month later Hussein invaded Kuwait thinking the US would not respond. [12]

References:
1 Washingtonpost.com. December 30, 2002
2 Jonathan Broder. Nuclear times, Winter 1990-91
3 Kurt Nimno. AlterNet. September 23, 2002
4 Newyorktimes.com. August 29, 2002
5 ABC Nightline. June9, 1992
6 Counter Punch, October 10, 2002
7 Riegle Report: Dual Use Exports. Senate Committee on Banking. May 25, 1994
8 Timeline: A walk Through Iraq's History. U.S. Department of State
9 Doing Business: The Arming of Iraq. Daniel Robichear
10 Glen Rangwala. Labor Left Briefing, 16 September, 2002
11 Financial Times of London. July 3, 1991
12 Elson E. Boles. Counter Punch. October 10, 2002
13 Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988. Iranchamber.com
14 Columbia Journalism Review. March/April 1993. Iraqgate
15 Times Online. December 31, 2002. How U.S. Helped Iraq Build Deadly Arsenal
16 Bush's Secret Mission. The New Yorker Magazine. November 2, 1992
17 Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia: Iran-Contra Affair
18 Congressional Record. July 27, 1992. Representative Henry B. Gonzalez
19 Bob Woodward. CIA Aiding Iraq in Gulf War. Washington Post. 15 December, 1986
20 Case Study: The Anfal Campaign. www . gendercide . com

**Keltoi** · 10-13-2006

Originally Posted by akulion

uuumm u didnt read my last post did u?

go back one page and read the long one i posted there with the pic of saddam and rumsfeld

I've seen the photo plenty of times before, so what is your point?

**akulion** · 10-13-2006

its not the photo i want u to look at

read the Post where it gives tonnes of evidence about how the US provided Saddam hussein with ALLLL the chemicals and chemical weapons he needed + more to keep in his fridge and the little fridge in his car as well