This article is about the withdrawal from Grozny in 2000 where the Mujahideen were exiting Grozny and helping to evacuate women and children.
The Russians had Grozny surrounded and mined and the Mujahideen ran into one of the minefields.
Rather than stay their trapped , volunteers ran foward and threw themselves on the mines whil shouting to their comrades , "See you in paradise!".
Amongst the volunteers were two of the top commanders , Lecha Dudayev ans Shamil Basayev who personally led the way.
Commander Dudayev was Shahaeed (inshallah) and Shamil Basayev lost a foot.
Last month the Chechen rebels attempted to break out of their
positions in Grozny as the Russian forces encircled the city.
The following description of the retreat, as reported by the
Washington Post's Daniel Williams, is a reminder of just how
brutal war can be.
"The order to withdraw from Grozny came from Isa Munayev,
the top rebel commander in the city. Two Mondays ago, in the
middle of the night, thousands of fighters began to head west and
south."
Heda Yusopova, a mother of two and a cook for a group of
Chechen rebels, was part of a group which went toward Alkhan-
Kala, three miles from the city. The column included units under
the command of Shamil Basayev, a notorious rebel commander
whom Russia considers a deadly terrorist.
"Yusopova's group of 150 shuffled warily in the middle of the
column of several hundred guerrillas." They were about to walk
into a mine field. "She heard artillery shells blasting the fields
that lay between the city and Alkhan-Kala. Then they came
upon the mines. 'It was scary,' she said. 'The first thing I did
was to try to calm the children.'"
Her children, ages 9 and 10, screamed. There was panic.
Volunteers were needed to move to the front of the column,
replacing those who had stepped directly into the killing field.
"A figure came out of the darkness. 'See you in paradise,' the
volunteer said. 'God is great.'"
"Yusopova wove her way among dead and wounded rebels
sprawled on the snowy plain. 'I had to bandage fighters as we
went. We couldn't wait for a safe place,' she said."
"With explosions lighting up the snow all around, commanders
urged everyone forward. Some commanders took the lead.
Basayev lost a foot to a mine. Lecha Dudayev, another
commander, was killed scouting for mines." The rebels insisted,
however, that most of the guerrilla columns escaped Grozny
without incident. And later counterattacks would seem to
confirm that.
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Shamil Basayev is the man I respect the most of present times. My father knew him personally. They were very good friends. Shamil and Khattab as well as many others used to come to our house often in Grozny after the first war. For about a month I refused to believe he was dead. And my father didn't eat or sleep for a few days. But luckily he calmed down after a while.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Chechen
Shamil Basayev is the man I respect the most of present times. My father knew him personally. They were very good friends. Shamil and Khattab as well as many others used to come to our house often in Grozny after the first war. For about a month I refused to believe he was dead. And my father didn't eat or sleep for a few days. But luckily he calmed down after a while.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Skillganon
Who's Imam Shamil in relation to chechnya?
Imam Shamil was the leader of the Caucasian nations in the Russian - Caucasian war. He wasn't actually Chechen. He came from Dagestan a muslim country bordering with Chechnya. The men the most loyal to him were the Chechens.He couldn't unite people in Dagestan to fight against Russia so he knew that the Chechens were fighting them so he went to lead the war there. He helped all the caucasian nations unite to fight against the Russian invasion. But at the end during a batlle he surrendered himself. He invited the Chechens to surrender along with him but they refused. And there's a story that says that when he declared he was ready to surrender and started walking to give himself up to the Russian side of the battlefield a Chechen warrior took out his rifle, aimed at Imam Shamil and said : Turn around you dog so that I can kill you. Cause he wanted him rather dead than surrendered to the Russians. Imam Shamil heard his words but continued walking without turning around because he knew that Chechens had a rule that said that you were never allowed to shoot in a man's back. Imam Shamil was a hero in the whole of Caucasus and a very religious person but after spending 25 years fighting the Russians he finished by surrendering. No one understood why he did that and no one still knows.
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Shamil Basayev is the man I respect the most of present times. My father knew him personally. They were very good friends. Shamil and Khattab as well as many others used to come to our house often in Grozny after the first war. For about a month I refused to believe he was dead. And my father didn't eat or sleep for a few days. But luckily he calmed down after a while.
Wow - your father knew Shamil Basayev??!!!???! Thats cool - i wanna meet your father! lol
Ever since i learnt about the Chechen war - i have always loved and respected him, even the american military respected him after the first war and wrote articles on him.
I know how you feel about when he was martyred - i found it hard to believe, it was probably the biggest and most depressing news since Chechnya declared independance. It was a big blow to the resistance but inshallah they will recover from it - it seems odd with him not around.
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Lol you don't imagine what connections my father had and what an important role he had among the rebels. And as for the martyrdom of Shamil yeah it was terrible news when my parents told me about it I just stood there for about 10 minutes not saying a word, not making a single movement. It was so hard to believe I mean he was the person I least expected to die. It was also hard because we lost Sadulaev and then straight away Basayev. It feels as if the war changed after his death. It's not the same thing anymore. Even though the mujahideen are strong and continue fighting it's still not the same like before. Basayev was a genius and a great military expert. American military even said that he is the best military expert of these days.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Chechen
Imam Shamil was the leader of the Caucasian nations in the Russian - Caucasian war. He wasn't actually Chechen. He came from Dagestan a muslim country bordering with Chechnya. The men the most loyal to him were the Chechens.He couldn't unite people in Dagestan to fight against Russia so he knew that the Chechens were fighting them so he went to lead the war there. He helped all the caucasian nations unite to fight against the Russian invasion. But at the end during a batlle he surrendered himself. He invited the Chechens to surrender along with him but they refused. And there's a story that says that when he declared he was ready to surrender and started walking to give himself up to the Russian side of the battlefield a Chechen warrior took out his rifle, aimed at Imam Shamil and said : Turn around you dog so that I can kill you. Cause he wanted him rather dead than surrendered to the Russians. Imam Shamil heard his words but continued walking without turning around because he knew that Chechens had a rule that said that you were never allowed to shoot in a man's back. Imam Shamil was a hero in the whole of Caucasus and a very religious person but after spending 25 years fighting the Russians he finished by surrendering. No one understood why he did that and no one still knows.
Imam Shamil was indeed an amazing man, i read a very lenghty article about his life a long time ago. May (SWT) grant him a place in Jannat ul Firdous.
I've never really written anything in one of these chechen threads before, as i am not fully clued up on their current situation. However, historically speaking, i know they have been fighting their oppressors for a very very long time. So i pray Allah(SWT) keeps them strong in their deen and grants them success in there endevours.
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format_quote Originally Posted by netprince
Imam Shamil was indeed an amazing man, i read a very lenghty article about his life a long time ago. May (SWT) grant him a place in Jannat ul Firdous.
I've never really written anything in one of these chechen threads before, as i am not fully clued up on their current situation. However, historically speaking, i know they have been fighting their oppressors for a very very long time. So i pray Allah(SWT) keeps them strong in their deen and grants them success in there endevours.
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Lol you don't imagine what connections my father had and what an important role he had among the rebels. And as for the martyrdom of Shamil yeah it was terrible news when my parents told me about it I just stood there for about 10 minutes not saying a word, not making a single movement. It was so hard to believe I mean he was the person I least expected to die. It was also hard because we lost Sadulaev and then straight away Basayev. It feels as if the war changed after his death. It's not the same thing anymore. Even though the mujahideen are strong and continue fighting it's still not the same like before. Basayev was a genius and a great military expert. American military even said that he is the best military expert of these days.
May Allah (swt) reward your father for all his work. Ameen
Yeah I think the martyrdom of Abdul-Khalim Sadullayev was also a blow - when he first came, people said he had the potential to be the next imam shamil, i.e to unite all the north caucaus under him - even though i had never met him, i considered him my leader
A great man too alhumdullilah - May Allah (swt) grant him paradise.
But Shamil will be the one who is most missed, he was one of the old guard - i think his passing was the end of an era.
But inshallah the Mujahideen can recover from this blow - im happy Doku Umarov is around, he was also one of the old guards from the old days - i think he played an important role in steadying the resistance after the disaster of losing Shamil Basayev.
Now im just waiting for another Shamil Basayev to come along
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format_quote Originally Posted by Chechnya
May Allah (swt) reward your father for all his work. Ameen
Yeah I think the martyrdom of Abdul-Khalim Sadullayev was also a blow - when he first came, people said he had the potential to be the next imam shamil, i.e to unite all the north caucaus under him - even though i had never met him, i considered him my leader
A great man too alhumdullilah - May Allah (swt) grant him paradise.
But Shamil will be the one who is most missed, he was one of the old guard - i think his passing was the end of an era.
But inshallah the Mujahideen can recover from this blow - im happy Doku Umarov is around, he was also one of the old guards from the old days - i think he played an important role in steadying the resistance after the disaster of losing Shamil Basayev.
Now im just waiting for another Shamil Basayev to come along
Yeah people who knew Sadulaev personally used to always say that under his rule Chechnya would be a very good and safe and clean place because he was very religious and knew the Qu'ran by heart and he was helping make Shariah in Chechnya. Of course Basayev will never be forgotten. He'll be a hero forever. He was there during the whole time and now that he's gone it's just weird. I feel terrible when I see some people saying bad about Basayev. Things like: Basayev wasn't a real muslim, he wasn't a hero, he was a coward or he was a baby killer. Things like that hurt me and make me mad at the same time. Because people don't know the truth they rather listen to what the Russian kuffir has to say rather than the truth of their Chechen brothers. My father and him were very good friends and I knew him personally aswell and I can say, and I can swear it, that there is no man braver than Shamil. There is no man as honest as Shamil. There is no man as kind as Shamil. I hate the image the media tries to give to him as a bloodthirsty savage. But oh well the true believers know who he really is.
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Did you really know him? What was he like? i heard he was kind of quiet, and that he very rarely raised his voice.
I also heard his wife and two kids and some cousins were killed in the first war in Vedeno. That was before the buddenyvosk operation.
As to his bravery, his military skill, courage etc. i think thats common knowledge amongst those who follow the events in this war.
The kafir western media will always portray him in a bad away - i dont really care what they think, however i find it sad when some ignorant muslims say bad things about him - theyre just fools.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Chechnya
Did you really know him? What was he like? i heard he was kind of quiet, and that he very rarely raised his voice.
I also heard his wife and two kids and some cousins were killed in the first war in Vedeno. That was before the buddenyvosk operation.
As to his bravery, his military skill, courage etc. i think thats common knowledge amongst those who follow the events in this war.
The kafir western media will always portray him in a bad away - i dont really care what they think, however i find it sad when some ignorant muslims say bad things about him - theyre just fools.
Yeah I knew him. It's true he was a quiet person. Not always talking endlessly. He only talked when he had something intelligent to say not something stupid and useless and only when he was spoken to. He was also very polite and if you just took the military clothes off of him you would never think he even participated in war. He was kind with everyone especially with children, he really liked them. Everyone who knew him and who didn't know him misses him. He never wished any bad to anyone and always had this sincere smile when he talked. Basayev and Khattab and many other rebels used to gather in our house to have dinner together. And when they used to sit at table and talk I would always listen to what they said. Because you would only hear brave and wise things from them. Especially Shamil. They used to talk a lot about the war and then wars in other muslim countries. They used to talk about Islam very often aswell. I just miss those people. We were all like a big family. But those days are over. Now the second war started. Most of them have died. But they have died as heroes to protect me and my relatives and my friends and I will always support them no matter what because for me there are no braver people than them.
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