Every night I hear the depressing news of suicide bombers murdering innocent civilians. I thought that the following could stop this practise.
A well publicised and televised debate on one question: Do suicide bombers qualify for martyrdom.
The preservation of life is a strong emotional drive. However, it can be over ridden by a higher goal: martyrdom. I thought that the defence of one's family may override this emotional drive, but it does not, for even when trying to protect your family, you still want to live.
I believe that there will be a shortage of candidates for suicide missions if the candidates themselves did not believe that they would be martyrs.
I love conspiracy theories. The following is my absolute favorite and I recommend it for all conspiracy theory lovers. Stop being close minded and stop coming your mind made up.
Oh yea, in reply to the BBC video, I noticed the following article on the same site with the previous masterwork. The videos referred to, and the hole article, can be found at the link below.
With the lack of even the smallest amount of hard evidence supporting their stories, conspiracy theorists have become more desperate to find anything which could be twisted to support them. Case in point: The WTC 7 was seen in the background of a BBC report while the reporter said the building had already collapsed. The story is that the reporters were given a "script" to say and these reporters stupidly read the lines before the building fell. Plain old common sense can dispatch this conspiracy story.
Why do they choose to believe the more unlikely conspiracy story which suggests that at least some reporters of some news organizations were given a script? Especially when, much more logically, miscommunication could easily explain the video.
Why in the WORLD would they need to give the reporters a head's up??? Why wouldn't they just blow the building up and let them report the collapse as they would have normally?
What most likely, logically happened: While investigating and updating information on the collapse of the towers, someone at the BBC was given a report/press release that building 7 was going to collapse. [Edit: we now know they were monitoring the news from different outlets and that's where they learned of building 7.] According to the fire department, by 2:00PM they knew the building would soon collapse. Reporters KNEW this well before the collapse because there are videos of reporters talking about it before it happened. So we KNOW reporters were given information on WTC 7's imminent demise. We can conclude from this evidence that the fire department relayed information to reporters that the building was going to collapse. By the time the report reached the reporter at the BBC, it may have simply been miscommunicated from "About to collapse" to "Has collapsed". She even starts out by saying "Details are very, very sketchy". That alone should put this to rest. She didn't say 'Sketchy'. She didn't say 'very sketchy'. She said "very, very sketchy".
It wouldn't be the first time reporters got something so completely wrong. They said it was a small plane at first, remember? They said Kerry choose Gephardt for VP, remember? They told the family members of trapped mine workers that their 13 loved ones were alive, all but one, when it was the other way around. Those are just a few glaring examples. I could go on... Reporters rush to be the first one with the news and often do a poor job of getting the facts straight. History is littered with examples of this. Even your average knuckle dragging, cave dwelling Neanderthal knows this. (My sincerest apologies Geico's Neanderthal man...)
Listen to Aaron Brown from CNN say the building collapsed or is collapsing with the building in the background.
I have had on this site since I started it (just under the 12 things we know for sure on this very page) the link to a video with someone from MSNBC saying “What we’ve been fearing all afternoon has finally happened.” As the building collapses. That makes CNN, BBC and MSNBC who knew the building was going to collapse. I searched for the MSNBC video because I remembered the media saying the building would collapse before it did. Here is that video again...
How many people knew that building was Building 7 before that day? It is unreasonable and unrealistic to expect every reporter to know the names of all the buildings in the World Trade Center. For all they may have known, building 7 could have been one of the smaller buildings which were also on fire.
The downright absurd conspiracy story: The government told many reporters to report something they would have reported anyway after the building collapsed.
A little critical thinking is all that's needed to debunk this nonsense. Why in the world would they make an already unbelievably massive conspiracy into one involving reporters who would LOVE a scoop like that? "Sept. 9, 2001 - EXCLUSIVE BREAKING NEWS! Government about to murder thousands for oil! We have the script!" Can you imagine the job offerings after a scoop like that? Can you say Pulitzer prize? What a hero! Who would pass that up to help a shadowy government commit the mass murder of Americans? This would be MUCH bigger than Watergate! Or maybe this was a planed gaffe to expose this plot? Are we to believe this gaffe is the only way she could have told us? A method which could easily be dismissed as typical poor reporting?
And here is the kicker... Did they really need even MORE people involved? What was the reason they absolutely needed to tell the reporters this? Why haven't any of the other reporters talked? Are most reporters part of a mass murder scheme? How much can conspiracy theorists swallow?
At best, this is an attempt to take your minds off the real issue. Why did the media know the WTC 7 was going to collapse if there were just a few small fires? This is another part of the conspiracy story they don't want you to think about.
Do the conspiracy theorist leaders have one shred of REAL evidence of explosives or anything else which could take down the buildings? Air samples with trace explosive chemicals in it? A memo like the Downing Street memo? A whistleblower who was in on the planning maybe? None of that involves the so called "whisked away steel". They have nothing. They're left to scour the internet for the slightest mistake made by anyone on that horrific, chaotic day. They're left destroying peoples' lives by suggesting innocent people are involved in mass murders.
I smell a deliberate attempt to quiet the media. It is not lost on me that the BBC recently created a story which casts the conspiracy leaders in a bad light. What media will want to expose the misinformation and deception of these conspiracy leaders if they incur the wrath of a few fringe lunatics? Apparently, Alex Jones, Fetzer and Co. would like their own shadowy, loose knit government based on fear. B@@!
Another update:
It seems I wasn't far off from what the BBC suspects happened. They even reference the CNN video above.
Here is a first responder with Building 7 in the background during an interview. Note the frustration in his voice because he can't do anything for the building.
First responder: "You see where the white smoke is? You see this thing leaning like this? It's definitely coming down. There's no way to stop it. Cause you have to go up in there to put it out and it already - the structural integrity is just not there in the building. It's tough, it's.. it's.. You know we can handle just about anything, this is beyond...
This new video explains how the building caught fire and may have weakened the building well before the initiation of the collapse.
Thanks to ScottS and David B. Benson for their contributions.
I love conspiracy theories. The following is my absolute favorite and I recommend it for all conspiracy theory lovers. Stop being close minded and stop coming your mind made up. .
yes you will find many gov't (undercover) sites that call this "conspiracy theories" and try to pull them apart. Only conspiracy theory is the myth of 9-11 and the forceful fed of lies around it. Listen to the testimonies of the NYP officer on ground zero and watch the video yourself. No debunking gona help explain how the building towards the bottom started exploding outward when the plane barely touched the top of the building.
yes you will find many gov't (undercover) sites that call this "conspiracy theories" and try to pull them apart. Only conspiracy theory is the myth of 9-11 and the forceful fed of lies around it. Listen to the testimonies of the NYP officer on ground zero and watch the video yourself. No debunking gona help explain how the building towards the bottom started exploding outward when the plane barely touched the top of the building.
Yes, ofcourse no debunking is going to explain it because you are close minded and have already made up your mind.
I also noticed how you didnt even bother to explain any of the points raised in the article about the BBC video you linked with bolded letters.
^^You are arguing with a child.... A child does not have the same intelligence as an adult, there is no point in arguing this with him, he is a true blue conspiracy theorist. I am sure he even holds the "chicken wire" experiment meant to replicate the WTC to high standards
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell
"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the
enemy." - George Washington
^^You are arguing with a child.... A child does not have the same intelligence as an adult, there is no point in arguing this with him, he is a true blue conspiracy theorist. I am sure he even holds the "chicken wire" experiment meant to replicate the WTC to high standards
Just becuase you are in denial does not mean rest of the world is also...
why don't go back and watch the testimony of the NYPD officer first then we'll continue.
anyways, we are waay off topic here.
I cant seem to get the NYPD officer video work for me. Does it explain the importance of BBC video and why they were reporting the collapse of WTC even while it is still perfectly intact?
Hey, I know a great way to stop suicide bombings. Fill the internet with conspiracy theory websites and let the would be bombers spend their day reading them.
Hey, I know a great way to stop suicide bombings. Fill the internet with conspiracy theory websites and let the would be bombers spend their day reading them.
why don't you give your american soldiers laptops so they can surf for porn rather then rape, and play games rather then kill innocents. It's a great way to end war fast, i mean OCCUPATION
I guess he couldnt have made the error in saying that he actually saw it rather than heard of it crashing and saw the aftermath of it on the television. It was all over the news almost immediately. Perhaps he saw the building smoking after the jet hit it... did you ever consider that?
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell
"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the
enemy." - George Washington
I am not going to try to sort this mess out. When something gets this far off topic and it becomes simply a place to argue, the thread no longer serves any purpose.
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