Pope Benedict must accept Dr Zakir Naik's invitation

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Asalaam alaikum, muslim brothers/sisters and none-Muslim friends

To: Pope Benedict XVI

Dr Zakir Naik has invited you, i.e. Pope Benedict XVI for an open interfaith dialogue. Now you must accept the invitation and hold an open interfaith dialogue on Islam and Christianity in front of the entire world so that people will be able to understand the truth about Islam and Christianity. Dr Zakir Naik's words relevant to this issue can be verified from any news web site covering the issue. Dr Zakir Naik's words regarding this great invitation for you include:

"I am more than willing to participate in the inter-faith dialogue with Pope Benedict XVI. I am ready on any topic he (the Pope) wishes as long as it focuses on Quran and the Bible," "I can go to Rome and to Vatican on my own expense if an Italian visa is arranged for me," "I am absolutely ready for an open and public debate with the pope under live international TV coverage," Let the 1.3 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians around the world listen to the debate based on equal slot of time allotted to both sides, he said. "It is not only a debate but also a question and answer session allowing the people to ask queries,".

yes a peaceful lecture between Dr Zakir and the Pope,

http://www.petitiononline.com/ai2nd/petition.html

Please sign the petition all the best Peace

wa-alaikum salaam :)
 
Just my opinion. I think it would be a dangerous debate.

The Pope only represents Roman Catholics. I doubt if the majority of the world's Christians would be in favor of him speaking on behalf of Christianity.

Outside of that it would be an interesting debate. But, it world have to be remembered it would be a debate of Catholicism and Islam. Or more exact a debate between Dr. Naik and the Pope.

If the Pope loses the debate, it would strengthen the views of the Protestants and Evangelicals and produce a more favorable attitude towards fundamentalism by the Christians.

If somehow Dr. Naik has a bad day and the Pope wins it would strengthen Catholicism, and see them return to their days of evangelism.

Either way it would spur an increase in evangelism


If the Pope did represent Christianity, it would be a worthwhile debate and it would be the one with the best proof who would win. but, as it is I think it could end up as a loose-loose situation for Dr. Naik. The world would see Christianity as being the winner, no matter if the Pope wins or if Dr. Naik wins.
 
The pope will never accept this, he knows that hes not going to win. Anyway can he speak english?
 
snakelegs said:
why should muslims think the pope is important?
i don't.
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A very large number of the world's Christians would agree with you on that. Even some Catholics feel the Papacy has out lived it's purpose.

Salaam
The pope will never accept this, he knows that hes not going to win. Anyway can he speak english?
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I really haven't read anything about Benedict. But for some reason I do not believe he can speak English. I just did a Google and found this:

OOOPS he does speak English.

As well as his native German, Benedict XVI fluently speaks Italian, French, English, Spanish and Latin, and has a knowledge of Portuguese. He can read Ancient Greek and biblical Hebrew. He is a member of a large number of academies, such as the French Académie des sciences morales et politiques. He plays the piano and has a preference for Mozart and Bach[3].
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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI
 
I just had a look at the petition list and it is flagrant, that 99% of the list are muslims.

Sooo, Dr. Zakir Naik:

(out of wikipedia)

'Political Analyst Khaled Ahmed considers that Zakir Naik, by his criticism of other religions, and by his claims of Islam's superiority over other religious faiths, practices what he calls "reverse Orientalism" when discussing comparative religion.'

We know, what happen to people who go already snobbish, sure about a victory to a debate!
 
Woodrow said:
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If the Pope did represent Christianity, it would be a worthwhile debate and it would be the one with the best proof who would win. but, as it is I think it could end up as a loose-loose situation for Dr. Naik. The world would see Christianity as being the winner, no matter if the Pope wins or if Dr. Naik wins.
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The thought of such a debate is indeed very interesting. However, I wonder how anyone would be able to decide a "winner" in such a contest. A few hours' dialogue could cover several topics superficially, or a few in depth; but when we consider the antiquity of the religions involved and their beliefs, and the vast sea of material that has been published by each side for the propogation and confirmation of its teachings, it seems that a "victory" on the side of either party would be extremely spurious. Indeed, I'm tempted to think that the positions undertaken by each party would invariably reduce themselves to a simple asseveration of their unwavering belief in the veracity of the claims of their respective religions: which, being their starting position, wouldn't produce much material for the arbiters to work with in determining a winner!
 
Would be interesting, I'd love to witness such an event, just for the sheer uniqueness of it.
 
Salaam said:
The pope will never accept this, he knows that hes not going to win. Anyway can he speak english?
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First of all pope Benedict XVI is one of the greatest minds of our times and surely one of greatest thoelogians nowadays.
Second thing, Benedict XVI is more conservative than John Paul II and he is very sceptical about interfaith ecumenism between catholicism and non christian faiths. For him non christian faiths are simply not right. Pope rather prefers to discuss with other christian churches , like orthodox or dialogue with protestants.
 
The Pope speaks Latin, German, English and Italian (at least, maybe more). His English is not bad at least when read from a script. Ditto the Italian. Whether he could conduct a theleogical debate in English is another matter.

The problem, of course, is that problems arising from matters of faith do not lend themselves to solution by the well turned phrase. I don't think this is what the Vatican had in mind when they proposed a Muslim-Christian dialogue :D

I once went to a Creation vs. Evolution debate sponsored by a fundamentalist church with a traveling Creationist speaker vs. one of my Biology professors and a Chemistry professor. The Biology prof. was a brilliant and funny guy and the Chemistry prof. brilliant but not so funny. The Creationist was a polished and gifted public speaker and he had a handbag of pat one-liners.

The Biology prof. absolutely demolished the Creation argument with the fossil record, structural homologies, molecular biological argumetns...etc etc., but his opponent merely asked if anyone had ever seen a pile of bricks jump into a neat stack in the back of a pick-up truck. The crowd went wild, holding their Bibles aloft and making great merriment (it was a definite home court advantage :smile: )

It was immensely entertaining but I believe not one person had their mind changed on the subject. :D

I too would like to see such a debate, complete with commentators and scoring judges. I would pay good money to see it.
 
snakelegs said:
why should muslims think the pope is important?
i don't.
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The Pope is important because he represents many millions of Catholics worldwide. While I'm not Catholic, I do understand his importance to Christendom, and as a result, I understand why Muslims interested in dialogue would seek to discuss subjects with him. The fact that he isn't important to you or me, as far as our daily lives, doesn't mean he has no importance in the greater scheme of things.
 
maybe it's just a lack of imagination on my part, but i can't imagine what could be gained by such a dialogue. maybe i've just read the comparative religion section too much.
 
Seriously i think that there are many christian scholars who are able to discuss with dr Naik about these two faiths. How to say, pope cant have discission with everyone who wants it.
 
snakelegs said:
maybe it's just a lack of imagination on my part, but i can't imagine what could be gained by such a dialogue. maybe i've just read the comparative religion section too much.
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Yes you are right Snakelegs. Its obvious that both sides would want to prove that their faith is the right one, and the opposite is the wrone one. BTW i saw dr Naik on YouTube and , with all due respect to him, he sould rather seek discussion with scholars on his level.
 
uhh to be honest, aaron, all thos scholars he faced were very good and they were all just simply beat, the biggest test for him would indeed be the pope himself
 
sudais1 said:
uhh to be honest, aaron, all thos scholars he faced were very good and they were all just simply beat, the biggest test for him would indeed be the pope himself
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Despite the entertainment value, which would be substantial, I just can't see why a couple of guys citing passages out of centuries-old texts are going to sway true believers.

It almost sounds like something out of a Woody Allen movie.
 
sudais1 said:
uhh to be honest, aaron, all thos scholars he faced were very good and they were all just simply beat, the biggest test for him would indeed be the pope himself
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Being the best debater means only one thing,
you are the best debater. :confused:
 
sudais1 said:
uhh to be honest, aaron, all thos scholars he faced were very good and they were all just simply beat, the biggest test for him would indeed be the pope himself
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I disagree that the Pope would prove 'the biggest' test. The Pope is an old man and a scholar, not a rhetoritician or public speaker. As wilberhum rightly implies being a skilled debater, which Naik certainly is, has very little to do with whether your arguments are 'right' or not... as any student of politics will agree!
 

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