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    'Islam supports conservation'

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    The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

    Experts have said Islam includes specific values, cultures and traditions that touch environmental issues relevant and applicable to today's world.

    Fachruddin M. Mangunjaya from Conservation International Indonesia said Islamic regulations included environmental conservation.

    He said the Prophet Muhammad introduced a system called hima, a protection zone, in Islamic conservation law that permitted the creation of environmental reserves for forests, plants, wildlife and endangered species.

    "For example hima could be created for bees on a seasonal basis, which would prohibit the grazing of domestic animals during the flower season," Fachruddin said during a discussion on Islam and conservation at the Syarif Hidayatullah State Islamic University on Thursday.

    Fachruddin said the Prophet forbade people from polluting three places: roads, the shade of a tree and riverbanks.

    Because of this, each of those three places was protected by the system known as harim, he said.

    "The harim area for a river extends to half the river's width on both banks and the harim area for a tree extends from the tree for a distance of two-and-a-half to three-meters in all directions," he said.

    "There is also a forbidden zone for wells or water sources, in which the zone is at least 20 meters in all directions."

    Fachruddin said there were regulations on what kinds of food Muslims could eat and should not eat.

    He said Muslims must not eat animals with fangs and claws.

    "If we apply this, we will be able to preserve our endangered predators, such as tigers and eagles," he said.

    The university rector Komaruddin Hidayat said Muslims should follow guidelines the Prophet had set out, including planting trees and converting infertile land to fertile soil.
    He said during the pilgrimage to Mecca and Madina in Saudi Arabia, Muslims were forbidden to kill or destroy any living creature, including a mosquito, or to break the branch of a tree.

    "This has left the environment of Saudi Arabia undamaged, even though those two holy cities are visited by pilgrims all year round," he said.

    A number of high-ranking officials from Afghanistan attended the discussion because they said they wanted to learn about nature conservation practices in Indonesia.

    Sultan Muhammad Awrang, a member of the natural resources and environment committee of the Afghanistan parliament, said the war that had lasted for the last three decades in his country had damaged the environment and human resources in environmental sectors.

    He said the visit to Indonesia was related to the Afghan government's plan to restore their national parks.

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'





    that was nice, masha Allaah i never thought about them Prophetic narrations that way before.. it's kool.

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    But Islamic teachings promote lots and lots of kids....which given the already overpopulated Earth, isnt a good thing...

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Isambard View Post
    But Islamic teachings promote lots and lots of kids
    Really? I never knew that!

    Can you provide us with some reference, please?

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Isambard View Post
    But Islamic teachings promote lots and lots of kids....which given the already overpopulated Earth, isnt a good thing...
    actually Islam says nothing about having lots of kids, where you getting your info from??????

    i myself plan to have 6 kids i hope you dont mind,

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sami Zaatari View Post
    actually Islam says nothing about having lots of kids, where you getting your info from??????

    i myself plan to have 6 kids i hope you dont mind,
    6 more Sami's running around?!?! j/k
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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    He gets his info from the crypts of morgagni--
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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAFFI View Post
    6 more Sami's running around?!?! j/k
    what wud be wrong with 6 more Sami's it would be very nice indeed

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sami Zaatari View Post
    what wud be wrong with 6 more Sami's it would be very nice indeed
    Noth'n wrong wit dat. Wud be kul

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cognescenti View Post
    Noth'n wrong wit dat. Wud be kul
    yup

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Isambard View Post
    But Islamic teachings promote lots and lots of kids....which given the already overpopulated Earth, isnt a good thing...
    On my mothers side I had 5 aunts and 2 uncles each had at least 7 kids. On my father's side I had 8 aunts and one uncle, each aunt had at least 8 kids. But, they are not Muslim. Did that happen because they were prepared for my reverting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    On my mothers side I had 5 aunts and 2 uncles each had at least 7 kids. On my father's side I had 8 aunts and one uncle, each aunt had at least 8 kids. But, they are not Muslim. Did that happen because they were prepared for my reverting?
    I enjoy my dose of inane generalizations as much as the next guy.. but I have noticed the forum attracting bozos as of late-- I think mods should implement a new toll plan for mindless drivel.. You'd probably afford to purchase google and Youtube by the end of the week!

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    ROFL @Isambard

    Anyway, man the source doesn't work ><
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    Hey people, Isambard is actually right, the Prophet did encourage us to have many children alhamdulillah.

    There is, for example, the hadith of the Messenger encouraging us to have kids so that he can have the biggest ummah on the day of Judgement...

    Isambard, if you are that worried, don't worry, any large number of kids being produced by Muslims is compensated by the lack of kids being produced by westerners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beespreeteam View Post
    Anyway, man the source doesn't work ><
    Should be working now Inshaa'Allah.

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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    My family was a strict catholic family, no one, except me, even married anyone who wasnt already catholic, you dont even want to know how many family members I have

    Catholics dont believe in birth control, is all i will say
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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Malaikah View Post


    Hey people, Isambard is actually right, the Prophet did encourage us to have many children alhamdulillah.

    There is, for example, the hadith of the Messenger encouraging us to have kids so that he can have the biggest ummah on the day of Judgement...

    Isambard, if you are that worried, don't worry, any large number of kids being produced by Muslims is compensated by the lack of kids being produced by westerners.
    Not really. The amount of kids is still over and this applies to Christians as well.

    I dont know why but there seems to be some sort of competition between the two groups to see who can pump out the most kids....at the expense of ecological stability...

    Well I hope whomever wins enjoys their pyrrhic victory.

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    Actually if people don't have kids it is bad news for the society because after a while they get stuck with an ageing population, in other words, too many old people, not enough young people to keep the society running.
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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Malaikah View Post
    Actually if people don't have kids it is bad news for the society because after a while they get stuck with an ageing population, in other words, too many old people, not enough young people to keep the society running.
    Like China with their 'One child' policy.
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    Re: 'Islam supports conservation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Malaikah View Post


    Actually if people don't have kids it is bad news for the society because after a while they get stuck with an ageing population, in other words, too many old people, not enough young people to keep the society running.
    Better than continue with expanding a population that is already unsustainable.


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