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    Salaam,

    I just read that a women should cover her hands and feet during prayer.

    3.2 For the female it is necessary to cover the body from the head to the feet, except the face.
    3.3 The feet till the ankles and the hands till the wrist must be covered.
    4. To face the Qiblah.

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    I haven't heard this before, is this true?

    Wasalaam...
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    Yes that's true. The quote below is all I could find for the time being:

    All of the woman’s body is ‘awrah and must be covered during prayer, except for her face, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "No prayer will be accepted from an adult woman unless she wears a khimaar (head-cover). (Reported by the five Muhadditheen) There is some dispute as to whether her heels and feet should be covered. The author of al-Mughni (2/328) said: "As for the rest of the free woman’s body, it must be covered during prayer. If any part becomes uncovered, it renders her prayer invalid, except if only a little bit is uncovered. Maalik, al-Oozaa’i and al-Shaafi’i said the same.
    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/1106
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    Re: Covering up

    yes, except for the face hands and feet, all is covered.
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    Hmm yes I know all is covered, but my concern is about the hands and feet, per se. I am confused now, because I've not really been taught so...

    "There is some dispute as to whether her heels and feet should be covered. If any part becomes uncovered, it renders her prayer invalid, except if only a little bit is uncovered. Maalik, al-Oozaa’i and al-Shaafi’i said the same."??? So what is the verdict?
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    Salams,

    It depends on which school of thought you belong to, if any.

    I know that if I stay in here, I'll end up fighting with someone...so I'm out
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    format_quote Originally Posted by lady_a786 View Post
    Hmm yes I know all is covered, but my concern is about the hands and feet, per se. I am confused now, because I've not really been taught so...

    "There is some dispute as to whether her heels and feet should be covered. If any part becomes uncovered, it renders her prayer invalid, except if only a little bit is uncovered. Maalik, al-Oozaa’i and al-Shaafi’i said the same."??? So what is the verdict?
    This may help:

    As for the face, the Sunnah is to uncover it during prayer, so long as no non-mahram men are present. According to the majority of scholars, the feet must be covered; some scholars allow uncovering the feet but the majority say the opposite. Abu Dawud reported from Umm Salamah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that she was asked about a woman who prayed in a khimaar and qamees (dress or gown). She said, "There is nothing wrong with it if the dir’ (chemise) covers her feet." In any case, it is better to cover the feet, to be on the safe side. As far as the hands are concerned, there is more leeway: there is nothing wrong with either covering them or uncovering them, although some scholars think that it is better to cover them. And Allaah is the Source of strength.
    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/1046
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    Re: Covering up

    format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif View Post

    Thankyou, this is what I came across last night too...It made it a lot clearer...
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    Re: Covering up

    It's awkay for covering up the whole body. My question is: Can a woman pray in her PJ's???? I mean in pants??? Is it considered as covered or not???
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    format_quote Originally Posted by bewildred View Post
    It's awkay for covering up the whole body. My question is: Can a woman pray in her PJ's???? I mean in pants??? Is it considered as covered or not???
    I pray in my pjs, but i make sure I am fully covered! I don't see anything wrong with, and haven't been told otherwise. I make sure it's loose fitting and my top is long so when I do sajdah, my back isn't uncovered....
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    format_quote Originally Posted by bewildred View Post
    It's awkay for covering up the whole body. My question is: Can a woman pray in her PJ's???? I mean in pants??? Is it considered as covered or not???
    Question:
    Can girls pray in pants? What is the clothing that is prescribed in sharee’ah for praying?.

    Answer:
    Praise be to Allaah.

    The clothing that is prescribed for women to pray in is any clothing that covers her entire body apart from the face and hands; it should be loose and opaque, so that it does not show the shape of any part of her body.

    The fact that a woman’s clothing should cover all of her body whilst praying is indicated by the hadeeth of Umm Salamah (may Allaah be pleased with her) who was asked about what clothes a woman should pray in. she said: “She should pray in a khimaar (head cover) and a long chemise that covers the tops of her feet.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 639. It was also narrated in a marfoo’ report (i.e., attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said in Buloogh al-Maraam (p. 40): The imams classed the mawqoof report as saheeh. Ibn Taymiyah said: The well known view is that it is mawqoof, with an isnaad that stops at Umm Salamah, but it carries the same weight as a marfoo’ report. Sharh Kitaab al-Salaah min al-‘Umdah, p. 365.

    And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah does not accept the prayer of a woman who menstruates (i.e., an adult woman) unless her head is covered.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 641; al-Tirmidhi, 377; Ibn Maajah, 655; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7747.

    So it is essential to wear something that covers the entire body apart from the face. The scholars differed as to whether it is obligatory for a woman to cover her hands and feet when praying.

    With regard to the hands: the majority of scholars are of the view that it is not obligatory to cover them. Two views were narrated concerning that from Imam Ahmad. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah was of the view that it is not obligatory. It says in al-Insaaf: That is the correct view.

    With regard to the feet: the majority of Maalikis, Shaafa’is and Hanbalis are of the view that it is obligatory to cover them. This is also the view stated in a fatwa of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas (6/178):

    Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

    The entire woman is ‘awrah when she is praying, apart from her face. The scholars differed with regard to the hands. Some of them said it is obligatory to cover them, and others said it is allowed to leave them uncovered. The matter is broad in scope, in sha Allaah, but it is better to cover them so as to avoid an area of scholarly disagreement. As for the feet, it is obligatory to cover them when praying, according to the majority of scholars. End quote.

    Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn Baaz, 10/410

    Imam Abu Haneefah, al-Thawri and al-Mazani were of the view that it is permissible for a woman to uncover her feet when praying. This is the view favoured by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah and by al-Mardaawi in al-Insaaf.

    Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Mumti’ (2/161):

    There is no clear evidence on this matter. Hence Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah was of the view that a free woman is ‘awrah except what appears of her when she is in her home, namely the face, hands and feet. He said: Women at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to wear chemises in their homes, and not every woman had two garments. Hence if menstrual blood got onto her garment, she could wash it and pray in it. The hands and feet are not ‘awrah when praying, or with regard to looking. Based on that, there is no solid evidence on this matter, and I follow Shaykh al-Islam in this regard; this is how we understand it, but we cannot be certain of it, because even if a woman has a garment that reaches to the floor, when she prostrates the bottom of her feet will appear. End quote.

    See: al-Mughni, 1/349; al-Majmoo’, 3/171; Badaa’i’ al-Sanaa’i’, 5/121; al-Insaaf, 1/452; Majmoo’ al-Fataawa by Ibn Taymiyah, 22/114.

    But if the garment is thin and shows what is beneath it, and the colour of the skin can be seen, then it is not regarded as covering.

    Rawdat al-Taalibeen by al-Nawawi, 1/284; al-Mughni, 2/286.

    This is indicated by the hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen: people with whips like the tails of cattle with which they strike the people, and women who are clothed yet naked…” Narrated by Muslim, 2128.

    With regard to the words “clothed yet naked”, al-Nawawi said in al-Majmoo’ (4/3998): It was said that they wear thin garments that show the colour of the skin. Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Tamheed (13/204): What is meant by the phrase “clothed yet naked” is those who wear light garments which show and do not conceal, so they are clothed in name but naked in reality. End quote.

    The evidence that the garment should be loose and opaque is the hadeeth of Usaamah ibn Zayd (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave me a qubti garment from the gifts that Dihyah al-Kalbi had given to him, and I gave it to my wife to wear. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Why are you not wearing the qubti garment?” I said: “I gave it to my wife to wear.” He said: “Tell her to put a ghalaalah underneath it for I fear that it will show the size of her bones.” Narrated by al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra, 2/234; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, p. 131.

    The qubti garment is a garment made of thin white linen that was made in Egypt. Lisaan al-‘Arab, 7/373.

    The ghalaalah is a kind of slip or undergarment.

    Based on this, it is not permissible for a woman to wear tight clothes that show her ‘awrah, such as pants or trousers.

    Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:

    Even if they are wide and opaque, because they distinguish one leg from the other, so they do not cover properly. Moreover there is the fear that this makes women resemble men, because pants are a man’s garment. End quote.

    Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Rasaa’il Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 12/286

    As for the validity of her prayer, even if she goes against this ruling and prays wearing these tight clothes, her prayer is still valid, because what is required is to cover the ‘awrah, and she has done that.

    See also question no 46529

    Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan said:

    It is not permissible to wear tight clothes which show the limbs and the shape of a woman’s body. Tight clothes are not permissible for men or women, but it is especially forbidden for women, because the fitnah in their case is greater.

    With regard to praying in particular, if a person prays with his ‘awrah covered in such clothes, his prayer is valid in an of itself, because the ‘awrah is covered, but he is sinning by praying in tight clothes, because he has transgressed one of the rules of prayer by wearing tight clothes. This is one aspect. Another aspect is that it is a cause of temptation and draws attention, especially in the case of women. So women should cover themselves with loose garments which will cover them and not show any of the limbs of their body or attract attention. So it should not be a thin or see-through garment, rather it should be a concealing garment which will cover the woman completely. End quote.

    Al-Muntaqa min Fataawa al-Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, 3/454.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by sevgi View Post
    Salams,

    It depends on which school of thought you belong to, if any.

    I know that if I stay in here, I'll end up fighting with someone...so I'm out
    Do you know the rulings from each school of thought? This is quite important as I'll have to tell my wife to cover her feet during prayer if this is true.
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