i have a problem . my parents have decided to get me married through arranged marriage but u see i am gay and i cant marry her .. and if i do i would never make her happy and if i tell my parents they will hate him and might never talk to me and probably disown me! i love my family and i will never ever want to live with out them .now i dont understand why Muslims say its haram to be gay when in quran there is no such word for homosexuality or to forbid it. also there is a verse in the quran that says partners but doesnt say it have to be female n a male . . i have went to many imams but they always tell me to be ashamed of my self and dont let the devil deceive me and some other people have told me to leave Islam but i believe in Islam . can anyone prove to me if its actually forbidden . i mean its just the way you were born i suppose so why should we be punished for it.
brother don't say that the quran didn't talk about gay people, all u have to do is just read the whole quran before saying this ..
kawm lout, lout people , and it's said in the quran .. were punished because they did such acts as homosexuality, try to find any book and read about kawm loot ..
thankyou ..
actually what i know is that the quran orders such people to be killed .. it's a big haram and against the nature of human kind ..
and be careful brother don't follow the non-muslims in their acts, it's not us " muslims " who will follow homosexuality and its ideals !!!
Have you tried taking up the issue of your homosexuality with a psychiatrist? Did you have any traumatic experience which lead to the conclusion of you preferring men over women? Think about it dude, it's all in your head. You're going against the nature of Humanity, and Allah is testing you. Do what yuo KNOW is the right thing. Have you even tried liking a girl , or any sparks when you see a cute one? Shaytan is just playing you, don't let that thing get away with it. And lemme tell you, the climate of hell is not exactly nice and toasty.
Last edited by aminahjaan; 08-26-2008 at 03:04 AM.
“And (remember) Loot (Lot)! When he said to his people, ‘Do you commit Al‑Faahishah (evil, great sin, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)
Do you practise your lusts on men instead of women? Nay, but you are a people who behave senselessly.’ [An Naml 54-55]
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)’”
[al-A’raaf:80-81]
second; it was Adam (3alaihimusalaam) and eve, not adam and steve. read what the sister has posted if u want to know more about it, jazaki Allahu khair umu 'Isa.
i have a problem . my parents have decided to get me married through arranged marriage but u see i am gay and i cant marry her .. and if i do i would never make her happy and if i tell my parents they will hate him and might never talk to me and probably disown me! i love my family and i will never ever want to live with out them .now i dont understand why Muslims say its haram to be gay when in quran there is no such word for homosexuality or to forbid it. also there is a verse in the quran that says partners but doesnt say it have to be female n a male . . i have went to many imams but they always tell me to be ashamed of my self and dont let the devil deceive me and some other people have told me to leave Islam but i believe in Islam . can anyone prove to me if its actually forbidden . i mean its just the way you were born i suppose so why should we be punished for it.
May Allah SWT guide you to the right path. Don't think you can say your muslim and then automatically you are muslim. Being a muslim means that you fulfill the laws of ALLAH SWT. You cannot be Gay and be a muslim so sorry to break the news to you but since you are Gay you are NOT a muslim. If you love islam you will try your utmost best to regain your true identity and forbid all types of evil. Allah SWT punished those before you for there illegal acts, don't let that punishment come upon you. May Allah SWT bring you to the straight path inshAllah
If you are gay and give up your homosexuality for the sake of Allah, your reward is with him on the day of judgement, in fact your sins can be reversed for rewards insha'Allah...
This is a psychological orientation.. and you can work on those urges, the same way you work on urges not to rape people when ever you are sexually aroused..
Islam recognizes a Marriage only between man and woman as is decreed by firtah.. if you live with another man and sleep with him you'll be committing adultery..
the choice is yours akhi..
There is no reason for you to marry now until things become more clear for you.. but you can choose a sexual act, or you can choose eternity.. it is up to you
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
bro please do not take anything say into offence and forgive me if i say anything that may offend you in advance...
but honestly i agree with I forgot who posted it, you cannot be muslim if you are gay and you claim that you have looked into it but in the Quran it says partner and not specified as male and female???
If you read the Quran fully and read he story of prophet Lot (saw) thn it will make clear sense to you that it is such a major sin and makes one a kafir... i mean it is so major that Allah swt destroyed the people of Lot (saw) including his wife cos of thier acts... Now one would only think if a messenger's (saw) wife was destroyed as well cos of the wrath of Allah swt then quite frankly who are you?
I once knew of a pakistani guy who was gay muslim born, used to pray 5 times a day fast the whole shebang and was yet GAY!!!
:X i mean i dunno what to say to that Allahu alam who are we to say anything but one thing i can say is that homosexuality is a major sin and it takes one outside the fold of islam if it didnt why would Allah swt destroy the people of Lot (saw) and repentance is NOT repentance if you carry on committing the act.
Bro i pray for you i pray that Allah swt guides you heart to the truth and makes you a firm believer gives you the strength to fully submit to Him and follow His commands and teachings Insha'Allah.
oh and another thing i have never and refuse to believe that people are born gay it is utter non sense. NO ONE is born gay or lesbian, they deviate themselves and walk on the path of shaytaan.
wa salam
I know that at times i may be annoying or mistaken when i say some things or it may unintentionally God forbid offend u & if that is the case then i sincerely apologise from the bottom of my heart & ask Allah swt's & ur forgiveness, so please do Insha'Allah forgive me and correct me.
Too bad, there's really nothing you can do except abstain from it.
My advice to you is that you don't marry a woman, a marriage would probably be an utter sham for yourself as well as her!
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I agree with Sister Skye Ephemerine about a Muslim committing adultery. Unlike some Christian denominations, there is no imam that will marry 2 people of the same sex.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123066,00.html
The national church, the Episcopal Church of the United States of America, resolved at its General Convention last year that "local faith communities are operating within the bounds of our common life as they explore and experience liturgies celebrating and blessing same-sex unions."
Since 2 Muslims of the same sex can't get married, then if they have sexual relations they are by default committing zina.
http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=zina&x=11&y=9
Zina: The act of commiting adultery (if married), or fornication (unmarried).
i have a question so see with gay people right, would one think that they just get punished for zina or sodomy too? as in doing it with a guy rather than a female.
i know its dumb lol but i was just wondering.
jazak'Allah khair for your replies in adnvance.
wa salam
I know that at times i may be annoying or mistaken when i say some things or it may unintentionally God forbid offend u & if that is the case then i sincerely apologise from the bottom of my heart & ask Allah swt's & ur forgiveness, so please do Insha'Allah forgive me and correct me.
This sort of situation is a difficult one. People of faith are conflicted when it comes to homosexuals who wish to be accepted "into the fold". On the one hand it is a great thing when an individual wants God in their lives, and on the other we know that homosexuality(active homosexuality) is a sin. However, people of faith sin on a daily basis. I suppose the best advice to give in this situation is to reinforce what a homosexual already knows...that active homosexuality is a sin. Other than that all one can do is wish them well in their walk with God.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
This sort of situation is a difficult one. People of faith are conflicted when it comes to homosexuals who wish to be accepted "into the fold". On the one hand it is a great thing when an individual wants God in their lives, and on the other we know that homosexuality(active homosexuality) is a sin. However, people of faith sin on a daily basis. I suppose the best advice to give in this situation is to reinforce what a homosexual already knows...that active homosexuality is a sin. Other than that all one can do is wish them well in their walk with God.
His religious life aint exactly the problem here, though I'm sure it is a huge problem in itself, the main problem now is that his parents want him to marry and he doesn't want that.
What should he do?
well he cant marry the poor girl how can u ruin someone's life like that?
bro i suggest you do some self reflection first turn to God if that is Insha'Allah the path you want to take and cure yourself before even thinking of marriage if not and you want to carry on God forbid being gay then still dont marry her how can you ruin someone's life like that and live with lies you say you believe in God right then i am sure that you also believe that lying is a sin and so is decieving people and playing with their lives.
and i doubt Allahu alam that any muslim sister would marry a guy that they know are gay.
I know that at times i may be annoying or mistaken when i say some things or it may unintentionally God forbid offend u & if that is the case then i sincerely apologise from the bottom of my heart & ask Allah swt's & ur forgiveness, so please do Insha'Allah forgive me and correct me.
well he cant marry the poor girl how can u ruin someone's life like that?
bro i suggest you do some self reflection first turn to God if that is Insha'Allah the path you want to take and cure yourself before even thinking of marriage if not and you want to carry on God forbid being gay then still dont marry her how can you ruin someone's life like that and live with lies you say you believe in God right then i am sure that you also believe that lying is a sin and so is decieving people and playing with their lives.
and i doubt Allahu alam that any muslim sister would marry a guy that they know are gay.
He knows marrying her isnt an option:
and i cant marry her .. and if i do i would never make her happy
Inalillahi wa ina ilayhi rajiuun, please be careful of what you speak. Allah(swt) destroyed the people of Prophet Lut due to their homosexulity. Think about it, if Allah sent to those homosexual individuals a prophet and told them to stop their acts of evil that they inherited from the shaytan. When they chose to continue to carry on with their homosexual motives and desires, Allah sent to them a publishment that they greatly deserved. If you belief in Allah and you love Allah then you should think about how much you are willing to sacrifice in our to go astray. Would you rather that Allah become upset with you and send you to hellfire, or would you rather ignore the whispers and doubts that you hear from shaytan? Make a choice, follow shaytan or follow Allah and the teachings of his messenger.
Like many sexual deviations acts, There is no cure.. electro-shock therapy as well as other modalities have been tried without much success..
However there are medications like Leuprolide which are used on some to significantly lower their sex drive we are usually talking about sex offenders who agree to enter these trials...
I personally think.. he has some choices to make.. There is no reason to deny oneself sexual pleasure.. when/if he can chanel it to the appropriate gender....
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
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