Salaams, I am a 20 year old pakistani muslim female and wish to become a paramedic. My mother is strongly against this and she says it goes against Islam. I will continue to wear my hijab and the clothing is not revealing anyway. I'm currently a manager at a callcentre and took a first aid course and know this is what i want to do....save lives. There's a few worrying things about the job......i understand which my mum points out:
1) You have to work late nights - after the year/two year training i can opt out of this.
2) I must travel with a male - i'll only jump into an ambulance when we get a call and i doubt there will be a danger of anything happening when we are on the way to save someones life!
3) I may have to treat alcoholics and drug users especially at nights which can be dangerous - my response - on those kind of call outs the police are always present and i doubt that anybody will attack me when i have been called to save a life.
Please please please can anyone offer me advice. I really want to do this unless it strongly compromises with Islam.......please offer knowledge........
Thanks
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I have given mouth to mouth twice without the facemask. Once to a 70 year old woman once to a 25 year old woman.
On both occassions I was concentrating on them living rather than wether I fancied them. Funnily enough, that was back in my theist days and I was also praying.
I went to war. That made me read the bible and after half an hour I was agnostic.
@ Sapphire, yup, I understand where your coming from. I would consider it carefully before applying. Best wishes.
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Barney thanks for your advice mate - really insightful getting input from someone who knows about the field. Much appreciated.
Nae worries. Sky knows more than me though, I'm more of the mental health side of things. I just used to go boozing with the paramedics.
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by the way when i said something like this i meant being a paramedic...not giving mouth to mouth!!!!
sis, again I tell you, I am basic life support and ACLS certified, mouth to mouth here in the states is no longer required, I don't know if you are in England? or what, but even before, the new guidelines this is what professionals out on the field use
now this job might not be for you, because it is very stressful otherwise and can sometimes be emotionally scarring. So it is something you have to battle with yourself...
and really ask, that young lady Nora that just died because a drunk driver killed her, if there were a brother paramedic on the scene would you not want him to do everything he can for her?
You need to work this out in your mind and that of your parents.. health care isn't a brothel it is people's lives~! and I personally view all of it as the most noble thing one can do with his or her life!
Allah knows best
Last edited by جوري; 10-26-2008 at 06:36 PM.
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Yes, I am from England. I think a sister can do just as well as a brother, i'm a girlie girl yeah but that doesn't mean a bad situation will scar me any more than it would a man. I might perhaps look for something else within the medical field to put my mums mind at rest and to avoid conflict that has arisen at home due to my ambition. Mum worries about the whole male partner and late night shift thing. Inshallah Allah (swa) will guide me towards what is right.
well personally, I think you'd do more good being a doctor or a nurse, but paramedics are the first on the scene and really the respond time makes all the difference in someone's life.
I also think EVERYBODY should at least know basic life support, by the time even the paramedics get there if within five minutes sometimes it is already too late.
Paramedics is for adrenaline junkies...
the real action is really with trauma surgeons ..
there is certainly great satisfaction to be had when you know you've actively saved someone's life..
I wish you all the best insha'Allah..
p.s as a general rule in every day practice NEVER perform CPR on anyone without at least a face mask, for your sake and theirs!
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I also think EVERYBODY should at least know basic life support, by the time even the paramedics get there if within five minutes sometimes it is already too late.
Paramedics is for adrenaline junkies...
p.s as a general rule in every day practice NEVER perform CPR on anyone without at least a face mask, for your sake and theirs![/QUOTE]
I agree, i've just been on a four day first aid course, everyone should know these basics. And i am looking for a job with a buzz......im sick of the boring rubbish i've been doing so far. I'm proud to be holding a mangerial position from he age of just 19, but i wanna say be able to say "I help save lives" as opposed to "I get my staff to take as many orders as possible and have the lowest call abandon rate" Get me? lol
It's good that. Only difference i was taught is that for babies and infants its 5 rescue breaths first then 30 compressions as kids need the oxygen first, adults are usually still carrying some in their blood and need compressions first.....but you're the expert there!!
these are the guidelines as of 2008.. however, and this is a strong possibility, probably in England you do things differently...
When I was sick in England I received medications that are very frowned upon here, might even get one into a law suit for bad practice.. that is not to say I wasn't cured.. In fact I was really grateful, since if this had happened to me in the states, I'd have ended up with a $20.000 bill... in England thankfully it cost me nothing.. so I ain't complaining --
these are the guidelines set out by the American heart association.. they update it every so often..
if you do end up going into this field.. let us know how it works out for you..
I seldom use CPR, just ACLS, which is all pharmacologic to control things like Afib, VFIB, Vtach, Asystole etc etc so once you are done with this you'll know more than all of us here...
I wish you the best insha'Allah
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MahashAllah and congratulations on your choice of proffession. Of course in Islam females are allowed to train as doctors and nurses to treat the females as they are needed............ Look around you globally and you will find that in many islamic countries women practice and treat females, so this is permissable. Your parents however i believe their main concern is your safety which is understandable.
I have never come across a female paramedic and find this very encouraging, i have been in situations myself when i have requested for a female to treat me as i am Muslim and for a ghair mehram to touch me would be inappropriate.However i have also found that the paramedics i have come across are aware and understanding of the Muslim needs and have more empathy just recently a male and female paramedic had come to see my mother. My mother neede an ECG and whilst the female did all the appropriate stuff he left the room. I found this very touching.
I wish you every success and best of luck with yor future. Ameen. There is no harm in trying and if in the future you feel it is not right for you, then you can always move on, and the added bonus will be that you have experience.
Let's not make 'muslim women helped in battle-fields' a route to work in fields where it is not necessary.
Muslim women helped MUSLIM soldiers when there was a dire need in the presence of other muslims. It was not their profession!
to the original poster..
I appreciate you wanting to help save lives sis. But if not you, there will be someone else to take your place in what is ultimately given/taken by the will of Allah.
There are other ways to help save lives. Humanitarian projects which will enable you to feed the poor send medical supplies etc.. are a worthwhile cause. How about looking into this field of work? I am sure you will get more of a buzz from feeding the starving and saving lives that way than in what you have chosen to do.
Salaams, I am a 20 year old pakistani muslim female and wish to become a paramedic. My mother is strongly against this and she says it goes against Islam. I will continue to wear my hijab and the clothing is not revealing anyway. I'm currently a manager at a callcentre and took a first aid course and know this is what i want to do....save lives. There's a few worrying things about the job......i understand which my mum points out:
1) You have to work late nights - after the year/two year training i can opt out of this.
2) I must travel with a male - i'll only jump into an ambulance when we get a call and i doubt there will be a danger of anything happening when we are on the way to save someones life!
3) I may have to treat alcoholics and drug users especially at nights which can be dangerous - my response - on those kind of call outs the police are always present and i doubt that anybody will attack me when i have been called to save a life.
Please please please can anyone offer me advice. I really want to do this unless it strongly compromises with Islam.......please offer knowledge........
Thanks
GOOD LUCK!! you must do what is right, As far as Im concerned nobody has any business in telling you what you can and cant ddo for a job, it is your right and you have to do it for a living, nobody else! Im sure your parents are just worried, as it is their job! and mums and dads love to have a good old moan, (thats thier job too) but just explain to them, that you appreciate their input and opinions but you have to make the decision that is right for you, in 6 months time, you may decide you really dont like it and that office work is the job for you, but how will you know if you dont try it!!
sweet, you are the person that wants to do it, you are the person willing to take all sorts of risks, trying to save other peoples lives, if you were my daughter, I would be exceedingly proud of you!
My honest advice, having gone through something very similar before myself. FORGET WHAT ANYONE HERE TOLD YOU and go talk to a shaykh that you know in real life and trust!
Trust me, can't go wrong inshaAllah. It's your best option,
There are lots of reasons why I feel this job is unsuitable for you sis. But since it regularly requires you to travel with a ghair mahram, I thought you'd like to see the ruling for a man and woman being alone at work.
I am a male nurse and my work is nursing men. There is a female nurse who works with me in the same department after regular hours, and that goes on until the morning. We may be completely alone together. We are afraid that we may fall into temptation. We cannot change the situation. Should we leave this job out of fear of Allaah although we do not have other jobs with which to earn provision? We hope that you will tell us what you think.
Praise be to Allaah.
It is not permissible for those in charge of hospitals to put a male nurse and a female nurse on duty overnight on their own to keep a watch on the patients. This is wrong and is a great evil, and it is a call to evil actions. If this man is alone with this woman in one place, they are not safe from the possibility that the Shaytaan may make immoral actions and the things that lead to such actions attractive to them. It was reported in a saheeh hadeeth that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No man is alone with a (non-mahram) woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present.” So this work is not permissible and you have to leave it, because it may lead to that which Allaah has forbidden. Allaah will compensate you with something better if you leave it for the sake of Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And whosoever fears Allaah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty).
And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine” [al-Talaaq 65:2-3]
“and whosoever fears Allaah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him” [al-Talaaq 65:4]
The female nurse also has to be cautious and resign if she cannot achieve what she wants, because both of you are responsible with regard to what Allaah has enjoined and forbidden.
Kitaab Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), vol. 9, p. 430
also you are in the uk where drinking is part of life. sis, being a paramedic isnt all about resus and treating life-threatening injuries on the scene. It's not as if this job is on par with a doctors who is working in a fairly safe hospital environment You could be dealing with druggies, drunks and all other low life's on our streets. You may have to go into pubs, clubs, bookies and God knows where else? It's a fact isn't it? You could be attacked by drunkards. It's just not an ideal job for a muslim sister.
Last but by no means the least is obedience to your mother. If your mother is unhappy that should be one of the main reasons to consider something else instead.
Please forgive me if I sound harsh. I can see more harm than good about it.
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MahashAllah and congratulations on your choice of proffession. Of course in Islam females are allowed to train as doctors and nurses to treat the females as they are needed............ Look around you globally and you will find that in many islamic countries women practice and treat females, so this is permissable. Your parents however i believe their main concern is your safety which is understandable.
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