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just a little help please very confused!

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    assalamualaykum

    i am in a dillemma i know i am a bad person but i want to turn good again and this is very hard.
    i can only do it in steps and i want to rectify two things but dont know which one to stop first!
    i gamble and i smoke marijuana. i know i am really wrong but i can only stop one first and then work my way to stopping the other!
    i need help on choosing which one to stop first.

    i know in islam a sin is a sin no matter what, but one of these must be worse then the other! i really need help on choosing which one to stop first!

    jazakallah brothers and sisters for atleast reading

    (my view is to stop gambling first but i do not know if i am right or not)

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

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    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    How to stop gambling? Play computer games...

    How to stop taking marijuana? Eat lots of yummy food...
    Be careful not to trade one addiction for another. Or one unhealthy habit for a nother. Sorry I do not think this is the best curse of action. Nor is it the worse.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    Good advice so far. It's going to be difficult to drop both habits together or even one at a time unless you find something else to occupy your mind and body. The biggest block to all sins is Salah. Learn the deen and start fulfilling your duties as a muslim and make lots of dua to Allah to help you in everything. Not only will you get a buzz that lifts your heart mind and soul but Allah will help you to get rid of your bad habits inshaAllah.

    Oh, and seek the company of good practicing muslims who will have a good influence on you and discourage you from forbidden things.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    hmm ok thanks guys you are getting through to me now... gambling has stopped now for good (few thank god lol)
    and now the weed... what does a plant have that makes it bad in islam (TEACH ME!!! lol) i am going to find it hard to fight 2 addictions so thats a BIG doubt. 1 step at a time you dont tell a baby to run before they can walk!
    i think im going to have to think further into weed cuz the high is just soo good and then again im going uni next year so...u know!
    for me it is hard to find "good practicing muslims" because ive never been religious and i have never been non religious ive always been in the middle so i dont know many people like that. surrounding me are all sorts of people some good and some bad
    i think i am going to have to stop the bad habbits and just get on track again and just be normal then try again to slowly repair myself with my religion.

    please help on the weed issue i want to learn
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    Salaam.

    Gambling addiction is silent and self destructive until the compulsive gambler wakes up and realizes this is not how they want to live their lives. A change is in order. It’s now time to find a solution in order to stop their addiction.

    All of these compulsive gamblers expected that they would gamble for the rest of their life. So I think it would be best to beat the gambling first. But it is better to do stepping stone.
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    Also, I have some of tips for marijuana. Take hot baths for the reason they can alleviate anxiety, slow down muscles, may help with headaches and have a propensity to relax you, making it easier to go to sleep and drink a lot of fluids; keep your strength up from the sweats. Some people declare that cranberry juice helps them a lot for the reason it's naturally detoxifying. And also do lots of exercise if it is possible.

    insha'Allah this will help you!
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    sis i smoke weed for the high not the relaxation!
    thanks though

    i want to learn why weed is bad for you in islam because it is a plant!
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by no1 View Post
    sis i smoke weed for the high not the relaxation!
    thanks though

    i want to learn why weed is bad for you in islam because it is a plant!
    Ok brother.

    Drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, opium, etc are all unlawful (haram) due to the various harms connected with them. Marijuana intoxicates a person the same way alcohol does. It weakens ones senses and the capability to reflect.

    The Messenger of Allah Taala (PBUH) said: Every intoxicant is prohibited. (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 4088)
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    You will need to continue to reaffirm your desire to quite and that you want weed out of your life. Like
    format_quote Originally Posted by ATHEISTofPEACE View Post
    Roll a bunch of joints. EveryTime you want to smoke, snap one in half saying "I submit to Allah and not you, my addiction is broken," Then dispose of it. Repeat. This is also a great way to quite cigs.

    Hope that helps.
    This keeps putting it in your mind that you are over weed and want it out of your life. Other things like this could work.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    i dont think i could really do that LOL seems difficult to the pocket

    and intoxicant hmm cool i never knew that. but i still dont see how it is an intoxicant i still see it as a plant! i know it seems like i am arguing for no reason but im just asking questions i would useually ask

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    it's an intoxicating plant. if it has similar/worse affects than alcohol then it is as forbidden.
    dulled capacity for judgment and the addiction, not to add in the long term neurological damage, it's a no-brainer really.
    just because it feels good is no reason to keep doing it if it harms you as well.
    anyway pain & pleasure are the same, only pain is too much pleasure-stimulation-.
    Last edited by alcurad; 04-17-2009 at 01:04 AM.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    its no way near got the same effects as alchohol no where near
    and if i wanted to i could control the high of the plant so there is some control over it!
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    Then replace the join with some that would represent the weed to you. Make a representation of the weed and its addiction on you break it while saying something like I suggested then discard it. Repeat.

    Need help with a replacement for an actual joint?
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    yes i do need help lol

    and it is shown weed does not harm you its harmless and i cant kill you also!
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by ATHEISTofPEACE View Post
    Be careful not to trade one addiction for another. Or one unhealthy habit for a nother. Sorry I do not think this is the best curse of action. Nor is it the worse.
    someone told me that you can only stop an addiction by replacing it with another addiction...
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    You can beat anj addiction with our replacing it.
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by no1 View Post
    assalamualaykum

    i am in a dillemma i know i am a bad person but i want to turn good again and this is very hard.
    i can only do it in steps and i want to rectify two things but dont know which one to stop first!
    i gamble and i smoke marijuana. i know i am really wrong but i can only stop one first and then work my way to stopping the other!
    i need help on choosing which one to stop first.

    i know in islam a sin is a sin no matter what, but one of these must be worse then the other! i really need help on choosing which one to stop first!

    jazakallah brothers and sisters for atleast reading

    (my view is to stop gambling first but i do not know if i am right or not)
    Akhi May Allah forgive us for our sin!!! Ameen
    Inshallah you can quit both and fast but if you had to pick on first i would say Gambling because >>>>>
    Praise be to Allaah.

    Gambling is haraam because Allaah has forbidden it, and He rules as He wills. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, al-Ansaab [sacrifices for idols, etc.] and al-Azlaam [arrows for seeking luck or decision] are an abomination of Shaytaan’s handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.

    Shaytaan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drink) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allaah and from al-salaat (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain?”[al-Maa’idah 5:90-91]

    With regard to the wisdom behind this prohibition, any wise person will see that there are many reasons for it, including the following:

    Gambling makes a person rely on accidents, luck and wishful thinking for his earnings, instead of hard work, the sweat of his brow and paying respect to the ways prescribed by Allaah.

    Gambling destroys families and causes the loss of wealth through haraam means. It makes rich families poor and humiliates proud souls.

    Gambling results in enmity and hatred among the players, because they are consuming one another’s wealth unlawfully and getting wealth unlawfully.

    Gambling turns people away from the remembrance of Allaah and from prayer, and pushes the players to have the worst of attitudes and habits.

    Gambling is a sinful hobby that wastes time and effort, and makes people get used to laziness and idleness. It stops the ummah from working and producing.

    Gambling pushes people to commit crimes because the one who is penniless wants to get hold of money in any way he can, even if he has to steal it or take it by force, or through accepting bribes and cheating.

    Gambling causes stress, illness and nervous breakdowns. It breeds hatred and in most cases leads to crime, suicide, insanity and chronic illness.

    Gambling pushes the gambler to bad behaviour such as drinking alcohol and taking drugs. The atmosphere in which gambling takes place is dimly lit and filled with cigarette smoke; people talk in hushed voices and whispers, and sneak in and out as if they are up to no good. They come in hesitantly, filled with suspicion, and gather around the green table, breathing uneasily and with their hearts pounding. They are supposed to be friends playing a game, but in reality they are enemies, each of them lying in wait for the other and trying to make gains at the expense of the other and his children. The owner of the place tries to numb the feelings of all participants by offering dreamy music, fallen women, all kinds of drinks and cigarettes. The green table is surrounded with cheating and deception. The waiters and girls may tell one player about another player’s cards, helping one player to beat another by means of nods and whispers. Sometimes they achieve a kind of balance to make sure the game carries on and people stay for longer. No doubt everyone loses in the end, they lose the money they spend on drinks and cigarettes, the money they give to the waiters, the money they spend on drinks for the girls, and all kinds of other losses. Even the one who wins all or most of the games loses all or most of his winnings, and the loser loses everything. And at the end of the night, they all sneak away, showing the signs of depression and humiliation, and the loser warns the winner to look out the next day. (Ahmad Shalabi, al-Hayaat al-Ijtimaa’iyyah fi’l-Tafkeer al-Islami, p. 241)

    How many families have become poor because of gambling? How many mouths have gone hungry, how many bodies have become naked or been clothed in nothing but rags? How many marriages have failed, how many jobs have been lost, because of a person who stole money to support his gambling habit? How many men have sold their religion and honour at the gambling table? Gambling destroys everything, even when the aim is money. It includes wine, smoking, bad company, darkness, confusion, cheating, hatred, watching for opportunities to take advantage of others, deception and all other kinds of evil.(Qadaayaa al-Lahw wa’l-Tarfeeh, p. 388)

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    We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.Ameen
    So akhi try your hardest to stop both if possiable but start of with gambling
    But dont forget smoking marijuana is a sin as well and inshallah you can quit it asap and repent from it remeber Allah is the Most merciful!!!
    You have to give up gambling straight away and keep away from the people who do it, from the places where it happens and from gambling machines. You have to regret what has happened in the past, and resolve not to return to it. You also have to give in charity, because it was narrated by Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever swears and says in his oath ‘By al-Laat and al-‘Uzza,’ let him say ‘Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (there is no god but Allaah).’ And whoever says to his companion, ‘Come on, let’s gamble,’ let him give in charity.”

    Al-Nawawi said: the scholars said, he enjoined charity as an expiation for the sin of speaking these words. Al-Khattaabi said, What it means is that he should give in charity the amount that he wanted to gamble.

    Al-Nawawi said, the correct view is that which was stated by the scholars, and which is the apparent meaning of the hadeeth, that it does not have to be this specific amount, but that he should give in charity whatever he can, of things that are counted as charity. This is supported by the report which says, “Let him give something in charity.”

    Al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah , vol. 39, p. 407
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Umar^111 View Post
    Akhi May Allah forgive us for our sin!!! Ameen
    Inshallah you can quit both and fast but if you had to pick on first i would say Gambling because >>>>>
    Praise be to Allaah.

    Gambling is haraam because Allaah has forbidden it, and He rules as He wills. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, al-Ansaab [sacrifices for idols, etc.] and al-Azlaam [arrows for seeking luck or decision] are an abomination of Shaytaan’s handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.

    Shaytaan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drink) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allaah and from al-salaat (the prayer). So, will you not then abstain?”[al-Maa’idah 5:90-91]

    With regard to the wisdom behind this prohibition, any wise person will see that there are many reasons for it, including the following:

    Gambling makes a person rely on accidents, luck and wishful thinking for his earnings, instead of hard work, the sweat of his brow and paying respect to the ways prescribed by Allaah.

    Gambling destroys families and causes the loss of wealth through haraam means. It makes rich families poor and humiliates proud souls.

    Gambling results in enmity and hatred among the players, because they are consuming one another’s wealth unlawfully and getting wealth unlawfully.

    Gambling turns people away from the remembrance of Allaah and from prayer, and pushes the players to have the worst of attitudes and habits.

    Gambling is a sinful hobby that wastes time and effort, and makes people get used to laziness and idleness. It stops the ummah from working and producing.

    Gambling pushes people to commit crimes because the one who is penniless wants to get hold of money in any way he can, even if he has to steal it or take it by force, or through accepting bribes and cheating.

    Gambling causes stress, illness and nervous breakdowns. It breeds hatred and in most cases leads to crime, suicide, insanity and chronic illness.

    Gambling pushes the gambler to bad behaviour such as drinking alcohol and taking drugs. The atmosphere in which gambling takes place is dimly lit and filled with cigarette smoke; people talk in hushed voices and whispers, and sneak in and out as if they are up to no good. They come in hesitantly, filled with suspicion, and gather around the green table, breathing uneasily and with their hearts pounding. They are supposed to be friends playing a game, but in reality they are enemies, each of them lying in wait for the other and trying to make gains at the expense of the other and his children. The owner of the place tries to numb the feelings of all participants by offering dreamy music, fallen women, all kinds of drinks and cigarettes. The green table is surrounded with cheating and deception. The waiters and girls may tell one player about another player’s cards, helping one player to beat another by means of nods and whispers. Sometimes they achieve a kind of balance to make sure the game carries on and people stay for longer. No doubt everyone loses in the end, they lose the money they spend on drinks and cigarettes, the money they give to the waiters, the money they spend on drinks for the girls, and all kinds of other losses. Even the one who wins all or most of the games loses all or most of his winnings, and the loser loses everything. And at the end of the night, they all sneak away, showing the signs of depression and humiliation, and the loser warns the winner to look out the next day. (Ahmad Shalabi, al-Hayaat al-Ijtimaa’iyyah fi’l-Tafkeer al-Islami, p. 241)

    How many families have become poor because of gambling? How many mouths have gone hungry, how many bodies have become naked or been clothed in nothing but rags? How many marriages have failed, how many jobs have been lost, because of a person who stole money to support his gambling habit? How many men have sold their religion and honour at the gambling table? Gambling destroys everything, even when the aim is money. It includes wine, smoking, bad company, darkness, confusion, cheating, hatred, watching for opportunities to take advantage of others, deception and all other kinds of evil.(Qadaayaa al-Lahw wa’l-Tarfeeh, p. 388)

    Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
    We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.Ameen
    So akhi try your hardest to stop both if possiable but start of with gambling
    But dont forget smoking marijuana is a sin as well and inshallah you can quit it asap and repent from it remeber Allah is the Most merciful!!!
    You have to give up gambling straight away and keep away from the people who do it, from the places where it happens and from gambling machines. You have to regret what has happened in the past, and resolve not to return to it. You also have to give in charity, because it was narrated by Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever swears and says in his oath ‘By al-Laat and al-‘Uzza,’ let him say ‘Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (there is no god but Allaah).’ And whoever says to his companion, ‘Come on, let’s gamble,’ let him give in charity.”

    Al-Nawawi said: the scholars said, he enjoined charity as an expiation for the sin of speaking these words. Al-Khattaabi said, What it means is that he should give in charity the amount that he wanted to gamble.

    Al-Nawawi said, the correct view is that which was stated by the scholars, and which is the apparent meaning of the hadeeth, that it does not have to be this specific amount, but that he should give in charity whatever he can, of things that are counted as charity. This is supported by the report which says, “Let him give something in charity.”

    Al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah , vol. 39, p. 407
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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by no1 View Post
    its no way near got the same effects as alchohol no where near
    and if i wanted to i could control the high of the plant so there is some control over it!
    Praise be to Allaah.

    Hasheesh of all types is haraam, whether it is marijuana or any other type.

    Al-‘Allaamah Ibn Hajar al-Haythami said in al-Fataawa al-Fiqhiyyah (4/233), speaking of hasheeh:

    The evidence for its being forbidden is the report narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad and by Abu Dawood in his Sunan with a saheeh isnaad from Umm Salamah (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade all kinds of intoxicants and relaxants. The scholars said that relaxants are things that cause drowsiness and languor in the limbs. This hadeeth indicates that hasheesh in particular is haraam, because it intoxicates and relaxes, which is why those who consume it sleep a great deal. Al-Qaraafi and Ibn Taymiyah narrated that there is scholarly consensus that it is haraam and said: The one who regards it as permissible is a kaafir. He said: The only reason why the four imams (may Allaah have mercy on them) did not speak of it is that it was not known at their time, rather it only appeared at the end of the sixth century AH and the beginning of the seventh century when the Tatar state emerged. End quote.

    Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Fataawa al-Kubra (3/425): Consuming this hasheesh in solid form is haraam, and it is one of the most evil of haraam plants, whether a little of it is consumed or a lot. End quote.

    Consuming intoxicants is haraam regardless of the way in which they are consumed.

    Al-‘Allaamah Ibn Qaasim al-Shaafa’i said: What is meant by the drinker is the consumer, whether it is drunk or consumed otherwise, whether there is consensus on its being forbidden or there is a difference of opinion concerning that, and whether it is solid or liquid, cooked or raw. End quote.

    Sharee’ah only forbids the consumption of drugs and intoxicants because of the great harm that they cause to the mind, soul, family and society. We have discussed some of these harmful effects in the answer to question no. 66227.

    As for stress and anxiety, you may rest assured that the remedy for them is not to be found in smoking hasheesh or any other haraam thing. Allaah has not put the remedy of this ummah in that which He has forbidden to it. In Saheeh Muslim (3670) it says that asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about alcohol and he forbade him or told him not to make it. He said: “But I make it as a remedy.” He said: “It is not a remedy, it is a disease.”

    If you want to rid yourself of anxiety, then we advise you to do several things, including the following:

    1- Pray a great deal for forgiveness with proper presence of mind.

    2- Do wudoo’ and pray, for these are the greatest means of helping oneself to be patient in dealing with hardship and dispelling worry.

    3- Remember Allaah a great deal (dhikr), because this is a sure way to attain peace of mind and tranquillity.

    4- Send a great deal of blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). In Sunan al-Tirmidhi (2381) it is narrated that Ubayy (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I said: O Messenger of Allaah, I send a great deal of blessings upon you. How much of my du’aa’ should I make for you? He said: “Whatever you wish.” I said: One-quarter? He said: “Whatever you wish, but if you do more it will be better for you.” I said: One half? He said: “Whatever you wish, but if you do more it will be better for you.” I said: Two-thirds? He said: “Whatever you wish, but if you do more it will be better for you.” I said: I will make all my du’aa’ for you. He said: “Then your worries will be taken care of and your sins will be forgiven.” Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi.

    This is in addition to avoiding the causes of stress and anxiety as much as possible. If the source of this anxiety and stress is worry about the future, such as how you will learn a living and so on, then you must think in positive terms of Allaah and sincerely put your trust in Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And whosoever puts his trust in Allaah, then He will suffice him. Verily, Allaah will accomplish his purpose. Indeed Allaah has set a measure for all things”

    [al-Talaaq 65:3]

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    Asalamualaikum, brother no1.

    At first, you must stop this poll. You cannot choose which one is first to do. You must stop gambling and smoking marijuana at the same time. And not in tomorow, but right now.

    I know, is very difficult to stop gambling. I am not a gambler but some of my friends are gamblers. You must have a strong motivation and you need counseling and guidance from someone. Get a strong motivation and find someone who can help you escape from gambling trap.

    And about marijuana. You must leave your friends who made you became marijuana user. I know, you will not know how to smoking marijuana (there is a little different between smoking marijuana and cigaret, isn't it ?), and how to get a marijuana if your friend didn't introduced you to this wrong way. I was a bad boy, I know much about marijuana. Some of my friend were jailled causes by marijuana selling case.
    I was lucky, I had many friends. And so easy for me to left them and got new 'right' friends. And also I was lucky because I had a hobby, motocross. My 'right' friend and my hobby help me to far away from marijuana and drug. I was very bussy with my hobby and with my friends and I very happy.
    Ok brother, leave your 'wrong' friend because they are not your friends but your enemies. Insha Allah, you will get new friends who love you and guide you to the right way. And I sugest you to have a positive hobby. Of course, I don't sugest you to active in motocross , but you can choose another hobby. Active in a hobby will make you forget to marijuana and another addictive. Be a good Muslims, bro. Don't forget Shalaath.

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    Re: just a little help please very confused!

    format_quote Originally Posted by no1 View Post
    i still see it as a plant!
    Yes, it's a plant. Created not for burning and inhaling the fumes. The fumes are intoxicating, in the long-term research has shown it may cause schizophrenia, psychosis, and possibly even brain damage.

    Many googles will bring you much more info' on this, e.g.: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cau...ient=firefox-a

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

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