I have a friend, she's an unwed christian. She got pregnant by a muslim boyfriend. Her boyfriend wants the baby to be aborted, is it haraam? Should the baby be a muslim or a christian? Can somebody give advice to my friend?
Maybe you can go to a nearby mosque and ask the Imam there if you can also get some support from any organisations, or if he knows of any sisters who can help you and support you and your child?
How can I enter a mosque? I think it's not allowed for a woman to enter. And how can I recognize an Imam? How to approach him?
I already discuss this matter to my family from the very first day I came to know that I'm pregnant. We all have the same thinking and principles: this baby is a blessing.. We all agreed to take care of the baby and he's going to have 3 fathers!! My father (even if he's too old) and my 2 brothers (even if they already have their own families). I know real father is still different but what can I do? I think it would be better so that there is somebody whom he can turn to regarding "boy's talk" instead of nothing.
No offence to anybody but birth of Jesus (pbuh) was a miracle and must not be compared with sins of human being.
I understand, what i meant is that Mary/Maryam had a child, so she can look at her as a good example.
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How can I enter a mosque? I think it's not allowed for a woman to enter. And how can I recognize an Imam? How to approach him?
Are there no mosques in your area where women pray aswell? Or do you know of any muslim women - who live their life on islam - in your area that you can be friends with?
I already discuss this matter to my family from the very first day I came to know that I'm pregnant. We all have the same thinking and principles: this baby is a blessing.. We all agreed to take care of the baby and he's going to have 3 fathers!! My father (even if he's too old) and my 2 brothers (even if they already have their own families). I know real father is still different but what can I do? I think it would be better so that there is somebody whom he can turn to regarding "boy's talk" instead of nothing.
Yeah, that's good. Its good and healthy for children to have both mother and father people to look up to for help.
Are there no mosques in your area where women pray aswell? Or do you know of any muslim women - who live their life on islam - in your area that you can be friends with?
there are mosques in my area but i cannot see any ladies going there, only males. usually muslim women are fully covered and most of them are not even looking at us. shall i ask male muslim to introduce me to some female muslim?
my family is in philippines. i will give birth in my country because i don't have anybody here to assist me when i deliver.
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Salaam/peace
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Seek help and guidance little one ................this may come in the form of a human being that Allah will guide you to......... InshaAllah....
Don't be ashamed. We are all full of faults but quicker to judge others............
Whatever yur circumstances it sounds like you are reaching out for help. I wish you all the best. May Allah guide you and make your affairs easy. Ameen.
pipay, it might be a good idea if you can become friends with a muslim woman by talking to some if you see them doing shopping. If you want, tell them you want to know about islam so they will help you.
If you cant, then you could try to ask the imam, or maybe a muslim woman who might be with her husband who can be friends with you?
yeah. this is also one thing in my mind. i maybe like a criminal voluntarily coming to a police officer to catch me and give me punishment.
Firstly, even if you are punished it won't happen till you're pregnant. At the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) a pregnant woman came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and confessed her Zina. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) asked her to come to him after her delivery. After she delivered the child, she went to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and he told her to come to him after the time when the baby will no longer need the mother's milk and she has found someone to take care of the baby. The woman gave the responsibility to her father and came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and then he ordered the woman to be stoned. After her stoning, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) prayed for that woman and one of his companions asked him "O Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) that woman committed Zina and you're praying for her?" To this the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) replied "The regret which the woman had for her act was as much as causing the salvation of every resident of this city."
Secondly, the mother in this case is a Christian and we the Muslims don't have any rights upon her. She can be excused for having done the deed in ignorance but the father can be punished as he's a Muslim if there are four witnesses.
So don't be scared about the punishment, consult some religious and pious Muslim women who'll get you closer to Islam and sincerely repent.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said : IF a person sins and later sincerely repents then he becomes as if he never committed that sin."
And those who repent with utmost dignity, Allah turns all their bad deeds into good deeds.
MAY ALLAH GUIDE ALL OF US
yeah. this is also one thing in my mind. i maybe like a criminal voluntarily coming to a police officer to catch me and give me punishment.
Normal people don't tell the police, so if you become friends with a muslim woman and tell her that you didn't know because you're a christian, then i'm sure she won't tell anyone and she will want to help you as a friend.
I had a chance to tale to him yesterday regarding this topic. He told me that there are 3 things that does not allow him to take the responsibility: his family, his society, and his religion. I told him not to use his society and religion because I am not that stupid not to know anything. I told him that right now I am consulting muslims from a group (this group) and I know something about Islam because he insisted to me that a muslim cannot marry a non-muslim. Then, I told him that all muslims are saying that a male muslim can marry a female christian and never make it as an excuse to escape for what he did. And for his society, I told him that some muslim people here in this forum are also from pakistan, so there's no way to use his "society" and "religion" as an excuse. And for his family, well, I don't know about them. But as far as I am concern, he should be responsible for all this thing because he lied to me from the very beginning and even forced me to have security for himself.
Now, I want him to be liable for what is happening. I know that he is now planning to go away to escape, and before it happen, I want to get the support my baby needs. Can somebody recommend a lawyer for this case? I want take advise from a lawyer first before going to the police.
I had a chance to tale to him yesterday regarding this topic. He told me that there are 3 things that does not allow him to take the responsibility: his family, his society, and his religion. I told him not to use his society and religion because I am not that stupid not to know anything. I told him that right now I am consulting muslims from a group (this group) and I know something about Islam because he insisted to me that a muslim cannot marry a non-muslim. Then, I told him that all muslims are saying that a male muslim can marry a female christian and never make it as an excuse to escape for what he did. And for his society, I told him that some muslim people here in this forum are also from pakistan, so there's no way to use his "society" and "religion" as an excuse. And for his family, well, I don't know about them. But as far as I am concern, he should be responsible for all this thing because he lied to me from the very beginning and even forced me to have security for himself.
Now, I want him to be liable for what is happening. I know that he is now planning to go away to escape, and before it happen, I want to get the support my baby needs. Can somebody recommend a lawyer for this case? I want take advise from a lawyer first before going to the police.
Good for you for having gained information and being able to put it to use!
When the father of your child insists that he cannot marry a Christian woman, do you think he is trying to convert you to Islam or simply trying to get out of taking responsibility for fathering a child?
I am sure Muslims here will join me in telling you that neither of those two things is acceptable.
Remind me, are you in Saudi at the moment?
I don't know what the legal system is like there. Hopefully somebody can help you with your question about a lawyer.
You sound like quite a fighter, pipay! Go get 'em, sister!
Peace
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
Well, neither of the two reasons you've given, it's up to him. I don't want to hear ANY reasons from him because I don't think I can trust his words. I don't even have the assurance that he is saying the truth, so better not to let him speak, anyway, I believe I've given him enough time to speak before, it's just that he wasted it.
A fighter?? Well, yes.. Maybe because of my past experiences (even not related to this situation). I just don't want people to abuse me or anyone in my family because NEVER in my whole life I used or abused anybody. And it's not fair to let them do it to me. Thanks to him anyway for giving me another experience in my life that would make me more stronger and confident. Not like him... LOSER!!!
You are going to make a wonderful mother, pipay, the way you stand up for yourself and yours!
Are you still condering marrying this guy, or are you now just fighting for financial support for yourself and the baby?
I hope all goes well. God bless, and peace.
I wish I could be a good mother!
Honestly speaking, the love is still there and it could not be easily erased. I still want to be with him (just seeing each other regularly, not living at the same house) to secure financial support for my baby, but marriage? Not really.. I will not sacrifice my life forever for a cheater like him..
Honestly speaking, the love is still there and it could not be easily erased. I still want to be with him (just seeing each other regularly, not living at the same house) to secure financial support for my baby, but marriage? Not really.. I will not sacrifice my life forever for a cheater like him..
Listen sis,
If youre gonna carry on going out wit him it will make it even more hard for you when the time comes for him to break up with you. If i was you, i would break his heart before he breaks yours, and break his nose too! Imagine you were his wife..and he was cheating with another woman - besides, hes cheated once, whos to say he wont get yet another woman pregnant?
Put him in his tracks and give him a real moral shake up!
Dont let yourself be pushed around by someone like this honey!
Sis, ring up your local mosque, thats a must. You wont get any punishment, instead you will find that they are tres helpful, especially if you explain, ring up the non muslim mosque number given above, and i garauntee they will give you some help. I doubt this man will even bother to help you once the baby is born - he will just run off back to pakistan and u wont hear of him again! They will sympathise with you, but you have to end your rlshp with this man, he is terrible!
Maybe you could ask your family to help you out for a lil while?
Maybe you could research real islam, because it is so far from what that man shows, and find a really nice brother for you to marry in Dubai, who will accept you and your baby.Try asking the mosque to explain your situation to a convert, and they may find you a suitable partner.
Im sure you dont want to be a second wife to this man!
And of course you will make a wonderful mother, you are a very brave, very strong woman, and you are very determined to move and repent to maker a better life for you and your baby, making you very selfless and thoughtful, and isnt that just what a mother should be like?
Inshallah God will make you strong and help you to bring up your baby as a muslim.
P.s - why dont you make your own account sis - then you can post about any other things that bother you?
Were all here for you (=
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