Has Allah written them for us?

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format_quote Originally Posted by cat eyes

good reply post by brother optimist

but the way i see it is Allah obviously knows our destiny so he will obviously know who we will meet along the way and i believe if Allah did not want us to marry a certain person, and Allah did not want our life to point in a certain direction so some boundaries or problems will come to stop us from being with that person and our life will point in another direction weather we like it or not because its destiny made by Allah i believe that Allah also dose things to teach us a lesson.

we learn from it and we grow stronger through making mistakes for example, it can be possible you marry the wrong person but Allah allows it mabe so if all fails we learn something from it, we grow stronger through jihad. if that makes sense but thats how i believe our creator opperates.

Great Response. I totally agree. Everything happens for a reason. Allah knows whats in our destiny...however i dont personally think Allah has chosen our partners...but we need evidence to back this point up.

I cant remember which hadist, but it is said that the only things written for us is when we are born, when we die, our rizqi (fortune), and whether we we live happily or wretchedly.

so definitely no concept of "soulmate" in Islam, and whom we marry to is also not written.

I'll try to look it up again.

So after all that, the final answer is that it is NOT written whom we will marry?

Allah has got the knowledge, yes, I'm not denying that. But is it PRE DESTINED whom we will marry? Or do we make that choice?

Jazaak Allaah Khayr, that explains it. So if it is the Will of Allaah, it will happen, regardless of how many complications come in the way, or if you by your own knowledge cannot see it happening?

And if it is not destined for you, du'a can change that, right?

format_quote Originally Posted by Saifur-Rahmaan

^ something that may be relevant:

With regards to the writing down of Qadr, there are a number of writings that take place/have been made:

1. Writing in the law7 al-ma7foodh (preserved tablet); written down 50000 years before the creation of the heavens of the earth. This can NEVER change.
2. Writing that takes place once a year.
3. Writing that takes place every day.
4. Writing that takes place when a person in the womb of his mother. (hadeeth 4 of al-arba’een).

So when we read ahadeeth that mentioning that du’a/keeping ties of kinship change rizq etc, this refers to the daily writing down and the writing down that takes place in the womb - these are subject to change. However, it does not mean that what is written in law7 al-mahfoodh changes

Why this occurs? It is from the wisdom/action of Allaah and from the intricate details of Qadr, that which we don’t delve in to and ask about.

WaAllaahu A'lam.

am i right in thinking then that the final draft of writings 2,3 and 4 will be identical to preserved tablets on the day of judgment?

What about the Torah? Go ask an Orthodox Jewish Rabi to look at the Torah Code and maybe something will come up.

.....sorry?

format_quote Originally Posted by 'Abd-al Latif

People posting on this thread seem to have grave misunderstandings regarding Qadar of Allah (i.e. the Will or Decree of Allah).

It should be pointed out here that nothing happens in the heavens and the earth except that it has happened by the Will of Allah. To say that things happen without the Will of Allah is to say that Allah is ignorant of so-and-so, and we cannot attribute ignorance to Allah. To believe in Qadr is a part of faith and ones belief is not valid unless we believe in the four aspects of Qadar. They are as follows:

1 – Belief that Allah knows all things, in general terms and in detail, from eternity to eternity. Not a single atom is unknown to Him in the heavens or on earth.

2 – Belief that Allah has decreed all things in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz (The Preserved Tablet), fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth.

3 – Belief that the will of Allah is irresistable and His decree is comprehensive, so nothing happens in this universe, good or bad, but by His will.

4 – Belief that all that exists was created by Allah. He is the Creator of all beings and the Creator of their attributes and actions, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

Such is Allaah, your Lord! None has the right to be worshipped but He, the Creator of all things [al-An’aam 6:102]

There is much more to Qadar then this and it is an integral part of belief to believe that everything that happens is because of the Will of Allah and had it not been His Will then so-and-so thing will not take place.

Salam,

Are you telling me there is "COMPULSION" in every happenings? Then tell me the meaning of the following verses.

When Muslims faced set back in Uhud and when they pondered upon the setback ‘ How did it happen?’, Allah’s says clearly: “Tell, (them O Prophet!), that was from your own selves.” (3:165).

Quran says at another place.

“There is no tragedy which befalls you but as result of your own handiwork” (42:30).

Here is a report from Umar (r), when a plaugue broke out, he suggested to move out of the town to a nearby safe place. At that moment Abu Obaida commented, “You are trying to escape Allah’s law?”. “Yes”, Omar replied, “I am escaping from His (one) law to His (other) law,”

Why Umar replied in this way?

Quran narrates the infidels comment: ‘How can we enrich those who are poor by Allah’s will?”. The Quran’s response to that is : “surely, you are in grave ignorance!” (36/47).

Are you challeging the above verse which clearly says people become poor not because Allah willed it?

wassalam