Punishments making me go away from islam??????????????

Allah's mercy precedes/comes before his wrath. So all your allegations of cruelty etc are baseless. It's just a nafsanic delusion coupled with shaytanic whispers that's making you go through this phase sister.

Anyway, Allah created us and can do whatever he pleases with us. What's our position to indicate what Allah does is correct or not? We are nothing but slaves.

Since you accept Allah exists and that hell awaits the evil doers, then you are being incredibly naive to stand before Allah as an arrogant and open enemy. Allah could smite you down right now for your insolence, yet it is his mercy that is allowing you to continue living.

Also, sister, a sincere warning: The way you have worded your post is very dangerous in terms of your iman. Please have some adab and seek refuge in Allah from the shaytan, lest you believe or say something that negates your Islam.

Consider verse number 77 of Surah Ya-sin:

Does man not consider that We created him from a [mere] sperm-drop - then at once he is a clear adversary?

This is your behaviour. You forget your lowly origins yet think you can ever be in a position to stand before Allah as an enemy?

We need to know our place.

it’s because i loathe the idea of so much punishment to a person

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I don’t understand how god can be so cruel to something that he has created

My reaction to insults against Allah, are very intense, and I wouldn’t refrain from causing grievous bodily harm to a person uttering foul words against Him. So you need to be grateful that Allah has given us the Laws He has to protect His creation from harm by others (and themselves). For you who is calling Allah unkind, should know that it is easier for Allah to forgive you for insulting to Him than it is for me. Hence, you should fall down in sujood to thank Him for His mercy right where you are now. Don't make yourself a disbeliever by denying one of Allah beautiful names and attributes.

I doubt either, you would utter such non sense if someone who did something really evil to you, or to someone in your family, was punished by Allah? It would seem fair then wouldn't it? Allah said in the Quran that those who do good works have nothing to fear, so why are you so worried if you don't commit evil sins? As for those who do, why are you so worried about them? Didn't Allah give enough warnings? Did He not send Messenger after Messenger to give Guidance, so that man may be saved from Hell? Do you want to be like the Christians who believe that since Jesus paid for their sins, they are free to do whatever? So look around at the state of such people and see what extremes man goes to in evil and immorality when he has nothing to fear of God's punishments. You want that?

If such things come into your head, then examine your own faults and weaknesses, and ask Allah to remove them. Seek refuge in Allah from the shaytaan before you recite the Quran, so that you can understand the wisdom behind Allah's Commands, and not be misguided. Don't blame Allah and speak in disrespectful words for Him. Make repentance as Allah instructs His angels to not record the bad deed of His servant for six hours, in case he repents. His Mercy and Kindness are unlimited. May Allah increase you and keep you rightly guided. Ameen.














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Ummu Sufyaan - this thread is not a joke! it's people's comments like these that make me doubt even more! when a person is in need of help fellow brothers and sisters stand aloof? subhanallah

Her reaction is natural. Your original post and the tone of it was not showing proper manners. Especially your out of context and unnecessary emoticon use! They only cause doubt in people that you are not serious.

However, what is done is done, we take your word for it now. Please keep in mind that you should try to show adab/respect if you are sincere. There is no point insulting/offending people (which no doubt many muslims would feel on seeing your thread) then wondering why they won't help you.

Please don't take this as me judging/****ing you. The purpose is constructive advice and I hope InshaAllah that you take it on board.

On to your doubts though. Here, two (short) duas for doubts. Seek refuge in Allah from the shaytan and whenever the doubts cross your mind, do as directed on that page. Talk to Allah from your heart and seek his guidance.

Allah created us, agreed, he can do whatever he wants with us, agreed, but then what is the purpose of our creation? that we are mere toys that can be done with whatever the owner wants? i cant stand in front of allah as an open enemy, naudhubillah who said i'm his enemy? i just dont get why were we created then, if he will do whatever he wants with us

Sister, your behaviour says you are acting as an enemy. Please follow what I am saying with an open mind.

1. You accept Allah exists, correct?
2. You accept that Allah will either give you heaven or hell based on your actions, correct?
3. You accept that we are all slaves of Allah, correct?
4. You understand that being a slave means we have no say in anything that is demanded of us, correct?

Despite the fact that you accept and agree to the above, you feel that you can go against Allah by deliberately missing salah without remorse and you feel proud of the idea of not wearing hijaab. These two mentioned sins, loads of people already do and I would never look down on them. Your case is a little different. You are doing these sins out of arrogance. You feel Allah is being unfair so you don't want to do as he says. This is arrogance pure and simple.

Remember, iblis did not deny the existence of Allah. He behaved as he did out of arrogance. Please be careful of your approach.

There is a reason that Allah created us, even if may not fully understand. Try to keep perspective on our purpose and status here. We are miniscule and our knowledge/perception of the divine and the entire universe is extremely limited. There will be some things we simply cannot fathom and the only thing that we can do is submit.

Pay attention to the attributes of Allah. There are many that refer to the merciful and beneficial (for us humans) nature of Allah.

The fact remains, the existence of Allah has been made clear to those of sound heart and mind and they will be held accountable for their misdeeds.

Anonymous- Ummu Sufyaan - this thread is not a joke! it's people's comments like these that make me doubt even more! when a person is in need of help fellow brothers and sisters stand aloof? Subhanallah

Why would people’s comments make you doubt Islam? Did Islam come from people or Allah? Islam belongs to Allah. So judging Islam by our personal opinions makes no sense sister. Don't complain if seeking help in this manner gets you nowhere. Complain if you address Allah with manners and then get no help.

Bedouin - Allah created us, agreed, he can do whatever he wants with us, agreed, but then what is the purpose of our creation? that we are mere toys that can be done with whatever the owner wants? i cant stand in front of allah as an open enemy, naudhubillah who said i'm his enemy? i just dont get why were we created then, if he will do whatever he wants with us

Allah, has told us He created us to worship Him. Why? We don’t question Allah’s plans or wisdom. It’s enough that Allah has promised those who do good will return to Him in Paradise. Look at the disrespect you are showing to Allah by implying that we are merely puppets for His entertainment. Na udhu billah!!!!!!!!!!!! Then you claim you are not talking as an open enemy of Allah? Why should you have to understand why Allah created you? Did you ask Allah to create you? Will knowing that make you a better muslim? Will it guarantee you a place in Paradise? So khalas! We can’t even imagine how much Allah has kept hidden from us, some for our own betterment, and some to test us. Some of which may be revealed in the Here-after, some which may not. Allah gave you a thinking brain sister. You’re capable of making choices. Then how did you come to the conclusion that Allah does whatever he wants with us? If He wants to He can, and sometimes He does – when He knows it to be better for us, and sometimes to test or punish us. But that punishment is a blessing so that some of our sins may be lightened in the Hereafter. May Allah give you the ability to comprehend.

tango92 - i've read that hadith lots of times and about jannah as well. inshallah i will try to gain even more knowledge than i have. jazakallah khair your advice has been the most kindest int his thread

This is a good example of how we are grateful to man for small kindnesses, yet we overlook the unending Kindness of the One who clothes, feed and sustains us in this world where if we'd been left to our own devices, our own kind would’ve finished us a long time ago. By all means increase your knowledge. You should. But not having knowledge is not an excuse to speak with ill manners for Allah.

Ummu Sufyaan - i am not looking for a fight. i am looking for advice which if you dont want to giev in a kind manner then please dont say anything at all - rather than helping me you are making me doubt my religion even more

Again, you're using personal opinions of others to justify your doubts against Islam. Islam isn't based on anyone's personal opinions, not even Allah's beloved prophet's (saw). It's based purely on the Divine Commandments of Allah subhana wa ta 'ala. Please reflect on this sister, and also ask yourself by which right should you expect kindness from others when you say to others the opposite about your Creator? Na udhu billah! You tell sis Ummu Sufyaan to be kind or say nothing at all. Yet she is you're equal except in piety. But you, a mere human being, the slave of Allah, made from dust, address Allah, your Creator, in a disrespectful manner, and instead of acknowledging your sin, proceed to do the same thing again in your reply to Bedouin, but still want others to be nice to you. This might be the only time someone tells you as it is. But for those of us who love Allah, don't doubt His existence or deen, don't question His will, know we are sinners yet have hope for His mercy, it's very hard to hear the words you used for Allah. If I hadn't been aware of Allah's mercy and patience for the believers, or His commandments to us to help each other, I would've hated you with a passion. So thank Allah for this deen, and ponder over how life would have been without it, how we'd have been without it, and how there'd have been more evil and mischief on earth, and hell on earth. Reflect, reflect and reflect again.

“Verily in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest” (Surah Ra’d, 28)

Money wont make you happy...showing your hair to impress the boys wont make you happy.....looking hip wont make you happy

You need fuel that lasts for eternity, fuel that will make you happy inside and out, fuel that will give you confidence in yourself. Make Islam the fuel that drives you and dont follow trends, fashions or your whims because these will drive you to different directions of total darkness.

i wish people would stop giving the op such a hard time. it wasnt to long ago i was in the same situation (if not all of us at some point)

My problem isn't with the sister's low imaan, or waswas. It's the way she spoke against Allah that made me angry. I'll never pamper anyone who does this, not even if it's my own son. Love is blind!

tango, I agree wholeheartedly in being tolerant.

However, there is nothing wrong with giving constructive advice for her to take on board for next time.

When I first saw this thread, like Ummu Sufyaan, I wasn't sure whether this was serious either due to all the emoticons which made it seem quite 'unserious'. The problem was the manner in which she expressed herself, it was not appropriate nor showing the correct adab.

It's okay if she made a mistake. Everybody does. We don't need to chastise or beat her up about it but we should see it as our duty to give her advice that will benefit her. Nothing blameworthy there.

I have advised her to be careful in her tone/words next time for her own benefit and it is hoped that she will take it constructively in the spirit that it is meant inshaAllah.

Is it that you guide your friends(or other brothers) to Islam by telling them the punishment?