artificial insemination-halal ?

It is not allowed, because insemination and potential pregnancy in such a situation are not within the boundaries of a valid marriage contract. A conceived baby would thus be been denied its basic right of legitimacy.

There is the same question here:

http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...twaId&Id=84323

And a similar one here:

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/21871/...20insemination

Also see this: http://www.islamset.com/bioethics/obstet/artifi.html

And Allah knows best.

so basically a woman who is unable to get married has to give up her right to bear children ?? yeh cos thats fair isnt it ? wat about women who are disfigured, disabled etc ? they've got no chance of marrying ? they've got to give up that right ?

wa alaykum us-Salaam
there's someone else here that is involved and should be taken into consideration and that is the child that is born. what about the psychological impact that it will have on the child who isn't raised without a father. how is the child going to feel knowing that he/she was completely neglected by his father?

and what about the affects the absence of a male role model will have a on a child. if it is a girl, who is going to teach her what to find in a husband and father for her own children. and if it is a male, who will teach him how to be a good husband/father?

wat about women who lose their husbands ? either through divorce or death ?? does that mean the kid is missing out on something ? I dont think so. just cos the kid has no father figure doesnt mean its gona lose out ? what cant the mother bring up a child on her own ??

your making out a father is reponsible for moulding the child into a decent muslim ? hows that so, wen the father is responsibility for being the worker ?

every woman wants a child, its fact, all im asking is why cant a single woman, through no fault of her own have a child ? please dont tell me to be patient or go down thru other avenues, i want one of my own. & i cant give it up either, cos im always going to be resentful of missing out on not having one. as a woman surely you would be able to understand ?

there is a difference between not being able to be there due to reasons you cant help and not being there due to reasons you can help. a child isn't stupid, it will know that its father has abandoned it and this will cause it much distraught. eventually the child will grow up and ask where his father is and if the father could be there but chose not to be, that is going to equal one unhappy kid. and to be honest, he/she deserves a better father like that.

your making out a father is reponsible for moulding the child into a decent muslim ? hows that so, wen the father is responsibility for being the worker ?

directly and indirectly both parents have a role in raising their children be it a female child or a male child. lets take what you said about being the worker for example. . when the child grows up, if there is no male present (in this case for working) is the child going to know that a male needs to work for his family?

the fathers sole responsibility isn't just working either. he needs to discipline his children as much as the mother needs to and he needs to show them affection as-well. his role isnt merely to to bring the dough home...it doesnt stop there.

Though both these things (raising children and showing affection to them) are seen as the mothers job, truth of the matter is, it goes deeper than this. reason is both parents (mother or father) are role models for both genders that their children may turn out to be and it isnt simply a matter or "a male (father) is the role model for a male (son)" or "a female (mother) is the role model for a female (daughter)."
sometimes, directly or indirectly, the role actually "swaps over" simply because it just the way it goes. a mother cannot teach her daughters what to find in a husband and father for her own children...a father does that. and likewise a father cant teach his sons what they should find in a wife...a mother does that.

but the point is, is that parenthood inst exclusive for what appears to be on the surface...it actually runs a lot deeper then this. Both parents play a vital role and are like invisible pillars of support in raising their children, be the child a boy or a girl.

without the father being there, who is going to support mum and how are the children going to know that its ok if they, as husbands and fathers, can show affection to their children. children never pick up on that stuff expect from their parents.

lets take another example. how's a male child for example going to know that its important for males to grow a beard if there is no father there with a beard. again, children never pick up on this stuff expect from their parents.

im not trying to mock you or start an argument im just trying to make you see the other side of it.

maybe Allah grant you a good husband and children (if its you that you are talking about)

Ive thought about all that. A father being absent will not affect the child, yes its not the same, but its not like there wont be other male figures within that child's life. yes i know its not the same, but it would be same if a wife lost her husband right ? she would make do, & make the best of her situation. thats all i want to do. about the religion side of things, there are mosques etc, & other pious members that the child can learn from. plz dont make out its such a big deal for a woman to bring up a child on her own, cos to me its not, ive seen loads of women do it either thru divorce or death of a husband. them children have lost their fathers, some didnt even know their existence, cos the dads were losers, but the point is, the end result, the child-is normal. every side that you make me see well ive thought about it already. All im asking is why is so wrong for a woman to want a child, on her own, wen she cant thru other means e.g marriage. spare me the test talk or patience etc, im aware of that, I just want to know what about women that are disadvantaged through no fault of their own ? why cant a woman like that have normality and a child just to be her own ? how does someone get over yearning for a child, at the same time know its never gona happen through the right way ?

i dont know, maybe there is wisdom in it that you dont know about.

spare me the test talk or patience etc, im aware of that,

it seems like you dont. how are you going to get through this if you dont want to know about patience?

whatever, im done with this thread.

i know there is wisdom behind everything sometimes beyond what us mere mortals understand. Im aware of patience and tests in islam which is why i said to spare me that. I just want to know what do women who cant have children in the marital way, get ova not having a child ?? Ive been patient for many many years, & i dont see how something beyond my control, shud warrant me not having a child ??

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& hows a woman wanting a child weird ?? is fact all women yearn for children. all im asking is what about women who cant through no fault of their own as in dissability/disfigurment ? hows it their fault ?

It's not their fault but the answer was given earlier in the thread. People yearn for sex too but if they can't marry then it's still not permissible to have sex. You can try to justify it all you want but people here have given you the correct answer to the best of their knowledge. Whether you want to accept it or not is your choice.

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all im asking is what about women who cant through no fault of their own as in dissability/disfigurment ? hows it their fault ?

it's no one's fault. What about a person who has no legs, or who has any other loss or deprivation, should he do haram things ? You should be patient sister, and thank Allah for things you already have.
As brothers and sisters clarified above, It's haram, if you are muslim.
Be patient, ask Allah for a husband. If you don't get children in this life, then you will be rewarded in the hereafter because of your deprivation of children.

Firstly, the point is that a woman is not supposed to have any sperm in her that don't belong to her husband. I know rape happens, but that's by force and is wrong. In the case of an unmarried woman, she is not supposed to have any sperm or any baby inside of her at all. You know sister, in Islam, certain things are meant to happen within certain boundaries. So having sex, getting pregnant, the boundaries for those are that they must be within a marriage. These boundaries have been set by Allah. And that is the main point. While there may be wisdoms to it that other members have hinted at, the point is that Allah has disallowed it.

Believe me, and I don't mean to belittle how you're feeling in any way, but there are quite a few Muslim women in your position, who, for various reasons beyond their control, face a future without a husband or children or any of the other things married couples enjoy. Those things can happen within those boundaries only. Once we start wanting to get them to happen outside of those boundaries, then we start approaching sin. And we need to stop ourselves here.

As hard as it may feel, that is what the reward of sabr is for. So, instead of getting sin in our account (which we would by going outside the limits and boundaries that Allah has set), we can get more reward than you can ever imagine through sabr. It's not the case that Allah doesn't know how badly we want those things, He does. But He, in His infinite wisdom, knows a) if, and b) when, it's best for us to get them. Until then we have no recourse, but to try our best to have sabr. And sometimes it isn't easy, but the reward is commensurate with that.

Look at what Allah says in the Qur'an:

Sahih International
And We will surely test you with something of fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient (2:155)

Sahih International
O you who have believed, seek help through patience and prayer. Indeed, Allah is with the patient. (2:153)

It may be that what I've said is not what you wanted to hear, but it was meant sincerely.

May Allah help you and ease your affairs, sister. Ameen.

I think OP wants to whether Artifical insemination can be halal as a last resort for having a child to look after her in certain cases , the same way Pork can be Halal as a last resort for food in a desert , if its the only food available

He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.Qur'an (2:173).

^ That allowance has been made for, as one example, situations when our life might be in danger, and that is the only thing available, and if we didn't eat it we'd die. Here the preservation of life takes precedence and Allah has given an allowance to account for that.

However, our lives don't depend on having a child. It's not the case that if we don't have one, we'll die. Generations of people without children have lived and do live, and life goes on for them. Some have no husbands either. But the boundaries have been firmly and clearly set by Allah.

It's not the case that if we don't have one, we'll die.

Who would look after her when she is in grey hair. Pensions or Home for the aged ?

Forget all these people.....let me tell you of something that can get you in heaven......adopt an orphan and take care of him/her and bam!....you've quenched the thirst for babies and you've had your account deposited with large sums of good deeds.


artificial insemination = zero.....its profitless in this world and the next....why because the child you'll have lacks legitimacy and thus, makes him/her a bastar.d child


Allah knows best.....

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Who would look after her when she is in grey hair. Pensions or Home for the aged ?

I'm not trying to be callous here, but to the point, and apologies if I came across that way. It is not the case that I can don't understand, because I do. And we have so much to be thankful for.

It is not just a husband and children that can look after someone if the need arises. There may be brothers, uncles, nephews, other relatives etc. And there are some people who are all alone in this world, who have no one except Allah, and they rely on Him and get on with their lives. Sometimes you need human help, and at times when you think you might need it, you can ask a relative, friend, neighbour etc.

We cannot put some strange man's sperm into us in an attempt to produce a child that a) might not happen, and b) if a baby was born, you have no guarantee that he/she will look after you. But that is not the point. An unmarried woman should not have sperm in her for any reason.

Allah has not given us allowances in this situation, and Islam does not encourage that type of society where unmarried women are walking around pregnant. Alhamdulillah for that.

"(Triumphant) are those who turn repentant (to Allah), those who serve (Him), those who praise (Him), those who fast, those who bow down, those who fall prostrate (in worship), those who enjoin the right and who forbid the wrong and those who observe the limits set by Allah - And give glad tidings to the believers." (9:112)

format_quote Originally Posted by Airforce

Who would look after her when she is in grey hair. Pensions or Home for the aged ?

What a weird way of looking at things.

Why did Allah give death to Amina and Abdullah when Muhammad pbuh was few years old? Did not He know who will look after the young child? Why did he take two important figures (father and mother) from the life of His beloved creation? Can you answer that?

Moreover, what guarantee you or she has that the inseminated child she produces from some random man will grow up and look after her when is in "grey hair?" What guarantee you have that she will have gray hair and will not die tomorrow?

I was appalled when you compared eating pork as last resort with this blasphemy.