Is McDonalds meat or any other fast food meat haram to consume?

Assallamualaikum, i think is because of the source of meat. If the meat can be certified halal than i'm sure that is not a problem.

Here in Malaysia the source is from halal source not just the meat...everything need to be from halal source and have to have certain limit of cleanliness of criteria and we even have 'halal and muslim product' certified. so it depends on the surroundings.

Eventhough its halal, some ban Mcd due its link to israel eventhough i'm not sure how they got the royalty from the franchising business.

http://islamqa.info/en/ref/88206

You live in a country where it is relatively easy to find out how the meat is slaughtered and by whom. Going on personal experience, you'll most likely find it to be haraam.

This is a good friendly debate between Yasir Qadhi and Yasir Birjas on zabihah meat. I personally think Qadhi has the stronger argument.


http://youtu.be/6f69GD27wDw

format_quote Originally Posted by SyrianFellow

How would I find out how the meat is slaughtered for each restaurant? I googled it and in result there were many different links with different descriptions for each restaurant.

You can write to them or speak to the manager of the particular restaurant. Usually all franchises use the same suppliers. Stuff like that is not private so you should get an answer quickly.

In my place there are restaurants..hotels owned by muslims... now for the past 2 years..only there i eat...meat

and in places where they claim halal.. and have halal placards.. where muslims work as well... but are not owned by muslims.. I have stopped eating in those.. recently. Though the muslim workers tell.. yes halal etc.. now a days.. my heart is not allowing me to eat there... so i just stick to sea food alone.

McDonalds or KFC... there are plenty outlets here.. and in some they have the Halal placards... but i have never ever gone to McDonalds or KFC.. dunno why but i dont like to go... any one having such feeling ? I eat a lot.. but have never had that eagerness to go there.
Even in Dominoes/Pizza Corner/Pizza hut.. i stick to veg only...

format_quote Originally Posted by SyrianFellow

Hi everyone,

I have been told several times by a few muslims that it is haram to eat meat at fast food restaurants such as the Big Mac at McDonalds or the Meatball Marinara from Subway. For me, growing up in Canada I have always consumed these foods since I was a child. I also know many muslims who also eat meat from fast food chains.

My question is that is this actually haram?
Please answer if you know. I would prefer evidence from the Quran or Hadith though, but opinions are welcomed.

Thank you,
SyrianFellow

My brother firstly eating any meat which is not slaughtered using proper Islamic methods of zabiha means that meat is haraam for us to consume. We must be very careful as Muslims to consume halal food as consuming haraam food may cause our deeds and duas to be in vain. We must ensure anything that goes into our stomach is halal, especially when it comes to the meat. Therefore stick to reliable Muslim owned restaurants and takeaways and do not eat meat in non Muslim owned restaurants and takeaways especially if the meat is not halal.

Regarding restaurants owned by non Muslims like Mcdonalds, KFC and burger king etc which state that they sell halal meat then also i would not eat in such places. I have known many people who work in such places and have asked them as well as done a lot of research and the so called "Halal" branches cannot be trusted at all if the source of the meat is truly Halal or not. If they cannot get hold of halal meat then they will get the haraam meat instead to meet demand.

We should even be careful about eating in Muslim owned restaurants and takeaways as many sell meat which has been stunned before slaughter which may mean the animals dies before being slaughtered and that makes consuming the meat haraam. So buying such meat becomes doubtful as we do not know which animal died before slaughter. Therefore one should ask the management before buying the meat whether they stun the animal before slaughter or not. If they buy it from their suppliers then one should ring the suppliers and ask them and they will tell you. It is necessery nowadays to make the effort to make enquiries about the meat we are consuming to ensure it is truly halal. Gone are the days where you can rely on any Muslim to provide you with truly halal meat.

In the UK we have the HMC who are a halal monitoring Committee who have monitors who certify outlets if they meet proper Islamic dhabiha methods of slaughter. You also have one in Canada Called the Halal Monitoring Authority:

http://hma.jucanada.org/

I would contact them and get information from the website. They also have certified outlets which have met their standards.

If you need anymore help or information then please do not hesitate to ask.

format_quote Originally Posted by Tyrion

Some say it's okay if you're in the west, since they see them as Christian countries and therefore as people of the book. Others try and stick to a Zabihah/Halal diet and only eat meat from halal restaurants or butchers. I personally try to stick to zabihah, but I understand those who eat meat elsewhere (I used to until just recently, for personal reasons ). Research the positions and stick to the one you feel comfortable with.

Those people who claim that it is acceptable to eat haraam meat sold in a "Christian" country are truly decieving themselves and others. Only the meat of the "true" Christians of the past is accepotable for Muslims because they used to slaughter the animal in accordance with the criterea of the Islamic dhabiha which is to say the name of God before the slaughter and then to cut the jugular vein.

Only then is such meat permissable for Muslims to consume. I hardly think that applies to any Christians nowadays. So therefore it is not permissable to eat any meat except that has been slaughtered correctly in accordance with the Islamic dhabiha.

And Allah knows best in all matters

format_quote Originally Posted by Hamza Asadullah

Those people who claim that it is acceptable to eat haraam meat sold in a "Christian" country are truly decieving themselves and others. Only the meat of the "true" Christians of the past is accepotable for Muslims because they used to slaughter the animal in accordance with the criterea of the Islamic dhabiha which is to say the name of God before the slaughter and cut the jugular vein is permissable for Muslims. I hardly think that applies to any Christians nowadays. So it is not permissable to eat any meat except meat that has been slaughtered correctly in accordance with the Islamic dhabiha.

Stop peddling your stance as the only correct and valid one. In this case, I happen to agree more with the conservative position that you mentioned, but there are many who do not and they have their own reasons. It's unfair and dishonest to present this topic as having one simple and correct answer, which just so happens to be the one you hold...

format_quote Originally Posted by Tyrion

Stop peddling your stance as the only correct and valid one. In this case, I happen to agree more with the conservative position that you mentioned, but there are many who do not and they have their own reasons. It's unfair and dishonest to present this topic as having one simple and correct answer, which just so happens to be the one you hold...

Is there such a stance which accepts that as Muslims we can consume modern day Christian slaughtered meat? If so then present your case....

format_quote Originally Posted by MustafaMc

Assalamu alaikum, Brother Hamza, I would agree with you in general regarding meat of Christians; however, kosher meat that is slaughtered according to the Judaic law surely falls under the allowed food of People of the Book. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. Quran 5:5 Meat of Christians should be avoided as there are no guidelines on slaughtering and they eat lots of swine flesh. They even put ham, bacon and sausage (pig meat) into their vegetables such as green beans, turnip greens, peas, lima beans, cabbage, and salad.

When my wife and I go out to eat, we always buy fish, seafood or vegetarian meals. We do not eat beef of chicken from restaurants, nor do we buy it from local grocery stores and markets. However, my wife recently learned that Butterball brand turkeys are certified halal. A prominent Islamophope, Pamella Gellar, heavily criticized Butterball for their halal turkeys. I travel 150 miles to buy certified halal beef and chicken from a store run by Muslims. I also raise chickens and slaughter them Islamically.

I agree that it is most certainly best to be cautious in this regard.

Regarding Jewish kosher meat then again the Jews of today are not similar to the Jews at the time of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wasallam) but they are certainly more strict than the Christians of today. But to be really certain that the way they slaughter the animal is in accordance with the correct Islamic dhabiha method then one will need to ask them their particular method of slaughter and what they recite at the time of slaughter in order to ascertain whether or not the meat would be considered halal or not. Consider the following:

Are Kosher products Halal?

This is a question that comes up once in a while. Let us take the time to provide a thorough analysis. In Islam, Halal means ‘lawful’ or ‘permitted’ and refers to all matters of life, not just food. In the same way, haram means ‘unlawful’ or 'prohibited' and refers to all matters of life, not just food. So it is proper to refer to pure foods, marriage to a cousin, having marital relations during the nights of Ramadan, etc. as being Halal. In the same light, it is proper to refer to pork, marriage to your sister or brother, hunting while in the Sacred Precincts or in Pilgrim garb (for Haj or Umrah), shameful deeds, etc. as being haram.

When it comes to meat and poultry, Muslims also use the term Zabiha (Dhabiha) to refer to meat from a Halal animal slaughtered by a Muslim in the prescribed Islamic way. (Meat from haram animals does not become Halal, even if it is slaughtered in the prescribed Islamic way. And a Muslim would never slaughter a haram animal.)

Kosher is a term

◦Islam prohibits all intoxicants, including alcohols, liquors and wines, whereas Judaism regards alcohol and wines as Kosher. Hence Kosher foods may contain alcohol. If they do, they are haram.

◦Gelatin is considered Kosher by many Jews regardless of its source of origin. For Muslims, if gelatin is prepared from swine it is haram. Even if gelatin is prepared from cows that are not Zabiha, many scholars consider it haram.

◦Kosher practice does not require Jews to pronounce the name of God on the animals while slaughtering, but Muslims must pronounce the name of ALLAH on all animals while slaughtering.

There may be other differences between Halal and Kosher that make the Kosher questionable for Muslims to consume.

These differences may seem minor to some. However, indulging in haram is a very serious offense against ALLAH and the punishment may be severe. Consuming alcohol or pork is a clear violation of ALLAH’s commandments and should not be taken lightly. The pronouncement of the name of ALLAH at the time of slaughter is also a major act of worship and obedience. Remembering and pronouncing the name of ALLAH is very dear to Muslims and it is required at the time of slaughter.

And ALLAH, Subhanahu wa ta'ala, knows best.


Source: http://www.ifanca.org/faq/kosher.htm


Is Kosher Meat Halal? Not Really


There are several issues with Kosher:

1. In Judaism, the rules and methods of slaughtering are not open and published. Unlike in Islam, where any adult sane Muslim can slaughter an animal by following the rules prescribed by Shariah, in Judaism only one kind of Rabbi, known as the Sachet, may slaughter Kosher animals. The Sachet is specially trained for this purpose and no other Jew can slaughter an animal.

Although Jews say that they slaughter in the name of God, we do not know what else they say in Hebrew while slaughtering. Their prayers and methods of slaughtering are in the hands of a few people and are not generally known.

2. The Sachet does not say prayers on all animals he slaughters at a time. Instead, he only says prayers on the first and last animals he slaughters. For example, if a Sachet has to slaughter ten cows, he will only say the prayer on the first and tenth cow while slaughtering, saying nothing on the cows in between.

This method of slaughtering is not similar to the method prescribed by Sharia for Hanafi sect, nor is it similar to the practice of Ahle-kitab at the time of our beloved Prophet Mohammed Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallum. Meat slaughtered by Ahlekitab was considered halal because of similarity in the slaughtering method and in the Niya at that time.

These are the reasons why most Ulama do not consider Kosher meat halal.

If a Muslim is not in danger of death, he must avoid eating haram food at any cost. If halal meat is not available, one can eat fish or vegetables or can even go to the slaughter house to slaughter an animal himself. There are many halal food stores online who can ship frozen Zabiha meat or Zabiha meat food products overnight. There is no excuse to eat non-zabiha meat or kosher meat in USA.

Zabiha products can easily be found in a big city like New York City. In addition, there are many Muslim-owned restaurants that serve zabiha meat and there is no excuse to eat Kosher.

Source: http://www.albalagh.net/halal/kosher_meat.shtml

format_quote Originally Posted by Tyrion

Lol, nice try, but no, I'm not going to get into a debate with you. I think you know that there are other opinions out there though, and it's up to the OP to research them and make up his mind. It doesn't help him if members start posting certain opinions or positions as the only accepted view on any given issue, it just confuses people and leads to arguments based in ignorance...

It seems to me that you are doing the confusing here. If you have not researched the topic then why make assumptions about it? I am not wanting a long debate i just want you to state what other opinions state that it is permissable for Muslims to eat the meat of modern day Christians (Who are most likely athiest or non practising Christians anyway). If you cannot provide proof then it is best not to make baseless assumptions and mislead others.