I saw it on their website that it is suitable for a Muslim diet as it contains no pork derived ingredients and alcoholic ingredients. The GMWA website confused me a bit as they kept putting 'only "suitable for" halal' or something of that sort.
The Oreos I got are the double stuff Oreos (yummm!) and I have so much work to do tonight, I realllly want to much into it whilst I work! I started eating it and then got waswas about this issue (I do have bad waswas with all things) so I put it aside.
I saw it on their website that it is suitable for a Muslim diet as it contains no pork derived ingredients and alcoholic ingredients. The GMWA website confused me a bit as they kept putting 'only "suitable for" halal' or something of that sort.
The Oreos I got are the double stuff Oreos (yummm!) and I have so much work to do tonight, I realllly want to much into it whilst I work! I started eating it and then got waswas about this issue (I do have bad waswas with all things) so I put it aside.
It says they are not suitable for vegans/vegetarians but then it says that the ones on sale in the UK are suitable for muslims? Unless the product is being produced in different countries, it's confusing. The best thing is to contact them and ask for a clarification. I've bought Oreos for my son in the past and I am 100% sure it said suitable for vegetarians, otherwise I wouldn't have bought them. Now I'm worrying I might have made a mistake :S
It says they are not suitable for vegans/vegetarians but then it says that the ones on sale in the UK are suitable for muslims? Unless the product is being produced in different countries, it's confusing. The best thing is to contact them and ask for a clarification. I've bought Oreos for my son in the past and I am 100% sure it said suitable for vegetarians, otherwise I wouldn't have bought them. Now I'm worrying I might have made a mistake :S
Asalaamu alaykum,
I don't recall it having been vegetarian in UK in the past but I might be wrong on this. I think there is a difference of opinion regarding calf rennet or something perhaps? I have heard that some consider it halal and some don't? It's on the GMWA website I posted below too regarding calf rennet. I am ASSUMING this might be why it is not vegetarian. It is weird that a lot of halal takeaways also seem to offer oreo milkshakes etc. I love Oreos but I'll just have to wait till I get home Insha Allah. We get halal Oreos back home I think.
Hmm.. I'm sure they are.. Our local Muslim shops have em in store.. Someone can confirm maybe..
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Hmm.. I'm sure they are.. Our local Muslim shops have em in store.. Someone can confirm maybe..
Muslim shops don't check products sis. They sell tons of haram stuff. In my area for instance, a lot of shop owners are from back home and wouldn't know a product was haram if it said 'contains pork' on it. Worst though are those who know that something is haram and continue to sell it.
Yeah it was things like these that made me think it was halal but I am going to go by Brother Hamza's answer that it is not halal as I myself do have doubts as to why it isn't vegetarian for one thing.
I called Oreos for a clarification. They said that Oreos aren't suitable for vegetarians because they can rennet (an enzyme derived from calf's stomach. But as for halal, there is a difference of opinion. Some scholars permit the use of rennet whereas others have declared it haram (depending on the source). According to islamqa, it's permissible to eat cheese containing rennet (i.e. non-vegetarian cheese), which means that according to Islamqa, Oreos containing rennet are halal.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. And Allah knows best.
I called Oreos for a clarification. They said that Oreos aren't suitable for vegetarians because they can rennet (an enzyme derived from calf's stomach. But as for halal, there is a difference of opinion. Some scholars permit the use of rennet whereas others have declared it haram (depending on the source). According to islamqa, it's permissible to eat cheese containing rennet (i.e. non-vegetarian cheese), which means that according to Islamqa, Oreos containing rennet are halal.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. And Allah knows best.
Asalaamu alaykum,
Oh thank you for calling them up sis
I had a feeling it was to do with calf rennet and from what I know the difference of opinion is based on the schools of thought. Like one school of thought says it is okay and other consider it najis. I only recently learnt that my country follow the Shaafi madhab apparently because I used to just try to fit in all four or whatever in the past and that made things really difficult. So perhaps it depends on what madhab one follows?
I shall try to find some info on this Insha Allah and let you all know asap.
I had a feeling it was to do with calf rennet and from what I know the difference of opinion is based on the schools of thought. Like one school of thought says it is okay and other consider it najis. I only recently learnt that my country follow the Shaafi madhab apparently because I used to just try to fit in all four or whatever in the past and that made things really difficult. So perhaps it depends on what madhab one follows?
I shall try to find some info on this Insha Allah and let you all know asap.
There is indeed a difference of opinion of the madhabs regarding the permissability of non halal calf rennet. Hanafi scholars have deemed it permissable but have concluded that due to the differences of opinion it is piety to avoid it if one can but that if a person was to consume it then there would be no blame upon them.
I had a feeling it was to do with calf rennet and from what I know the difference of opinion is based on the schools of thought. Like one school of thought says it is okay and other consider it najis. I only recently learnt that my country follow the Shaafi madhab apparently because I used to just try to fit in all four or whatever in the past and that made things really difficult. So perhaps it depends on what madhab one follows?
I shall try to find some info on this Insha Allah and let you all know asap.
You're welcome sis : )
But the good news is that they are looking to make Oreos suitable for vegetarians soon! So it'd probably be more pious to avoid them until then.
Hamza Asadullah:
There is indeed a difference of opinion of the madhabs regarding the permissability of non halal calf rennet. Hanafi scholars have deemed it permissable but have concluded that due to the differences of opinion it is piety to avoid it if one can but that if a person was to consume it then there would be no blame upon them.
" Its sometimes better people don't get to know you..
Cuz the more they know you, the less they understand & accept you..
Alone is better, what say " - SRK
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