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    It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

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    I just realized that at age of 90, my family will be gone and only remained is my Christian sister which is not enough for me. And so, I got scared because I don't like to no longer have them around me so I come up with a idea which I would like to consult with you and see whether it is halal or not. This is the prayer I would like to consult with you:

    "O Allah! Make me die young and with shahada on my lips because I don't like to live long live, it is scary. I want to see myself in my death bed my whole family not by myself and my sister but whole family. I wish to have someone beside me to request me to recite shahada at my death time not to be alone. Because, I don't know what will happen to me after I die my Lord. I wish to see my Muslim aunt next beside me and my Muslim uncle beside me while making this request to me, this is my dream"

    So, is my intention ok in Islamic point of view? Will that wish be granted? Because, I want my death be at youth age while my family are alive not when I'll left alone probably who knows? Maybe I will have a polytheistic or atheistic family, don't know and I want my actual family, I'm scared of the future.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    Instead, you do this dua.

    ''O Allah raise my family with me on judgement day amongst the righteous people''
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Instead, you do this dua.

    ''O Allah raise my family with me on judgement day amongst the righteous people''
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    It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Instead, you do this dua.

    ''O Allah raise my family with me on judgement day amongst the righteous people''
    Does that mean that if I recite this Dua, and put trust in God then on that Day my family will be with righteous people?
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    If your dua is accepted then they will be blessed with eeman and will die as Muslims
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    If your dua is accepted then they will be blessed with eeman and will die as Muslims
    Ok, what are the ways for me to work so that God will accept my prayer? Because, I want to meet them again in Paradise. And my Christian grandfather died while being unaware of Islam. Is there anything I can do so that God will Cause him on the day of judgment to accept Islam including his parents? Because, I want to meet even him in Paradise again.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    Assalamualaikum

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    "O Allah! Make me die young and with shahada on my lips because I don't like to live long live,
    From Abu Hurairah: "Let no one expect death and do not pray to die before the time comes." [HR Muslim]

    From Anas Ibn Malik: "If not because I heard Rasulullah sallallaahu‘ alaihi wa sallam forbade us to pray asking for death, surely I would ask for it. "[HR Bukhari]

    There are also few other hadiths that forbid a Muslim from asking for death before the appointed time to die comes.

    We don't know when we will die. And you also don't know when you will die. If you are actually destined to live long, but you wish to die at a young age, then actually this is a wishing that forbidden, based on those hadith.
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    Very interesting question

    I too would like to meet all my family members in paradise too.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto View Post
    Assalamualaikum


    From Abu Hurairah: "Let no one expect death and do not pray to die before the time comes." [HR Muslim]

    From Anas Ibn Malik: "If not because I heard Rasulullah sallallaahu‘ alaihi wa sallam forbade us to pray asking for death, surely I would ask for it. "[HR Bukhari]

    There are also few other hadiths that forbid a Muslim from asking for death before the appointed time to die comes.

    We don't know when we will die. And you also don't know when you will die. If you are actually destined to live long, but you wish to die at a young age, then actually this is a wishing that forbidden, based on those hadith.
    Then that's mean I would feel very lonely and I would not have anyone with me if I were to live long life and that would be scary. I don't like future.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    Assalamu alaikum

    This world is a prison but still long life is a blessing, we have several ahadith which state this. If you live long, you will get the chance to worship Allah ta'ala more. You will see more Ramadhan, more Salah and the opportunity to perform other ibaadat as well.

    Following is taken from islamqa.info

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best of people is the one who lives long and does good.” Narrated by Ahmad and al-Tirmidhi, 110; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

    And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Glad tidings to the one who lives long and does good.” Narrated by al-Tabaraani and Abu Na’eem, classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 3928.

    Ahmad (8195) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: Two men became Muslim with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). One of them was martyred, and the other remained for another year. Talhah ibn ‘Ubayd-Allaah said: I was shown Paradise (in a dream), and in it I saw that the one who was delayed was admitted before the martyr. I was surprised by that, so the next morning I told the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about that. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Did he not fast Ramadaan after he was gone, and pray six thousand rak’ahs, or such and such a number of rak'ahs, the prayers of one year?” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 2591. al-‘Ajlooni said in Kashf al-Khafa’: its isnaad is hasan.

    A man said: “O Messenger of Allaah, which of the people is best?” He said: “The one who lives long and does good.” He said: “Which of the people is worst?” He said: “The one who lives long and does evil.” Narrated by Ahmad and al-Tirmidhi, 2330; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

    Al-Teebi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Time is like the capital of a businessman, and it should be invested in such a way as to make a profit. The greater the capital, the greater the profit. Whoever benefits from his life by doing good deeds will succeed and prosper, but whoever wastes his capital and does not prosper will evidently lose out. End quote.

    Hence it was said to one of the salaf: Death is a good thing.

    He said: O son of my brother, do not do that, for an hour of life in which you ask Allaah for forgiveness is better for you than an eternity of death.

    It was said to an old man among them: Would you not like to die? He said: No, for youth and its evil have gone, and old age and its goodness have come. When I get up, I say Bismillaah (in the name of Allaah), and when I sit I say Al-hamdu Lillaah (praise be to Allaah), and I would like this to continue.

    Many of the salaf would weep when they were dying, in sorrow for the cessation of their righteous deeds.

    Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade wishing for death, because it deprives the believer of the goodness of obedience and the joy of worship, and of the opportunity to repent and make up for what one has missed.

    It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No one of you should wish for death or pray for it before it comes, for when one of you dies, his good deeds come to an end and for the believer a long life will not increase him in anything but good.” Narrated by Muslim, 2682

    So he mentioned the prohibition of wishing for death alongside the prohibition on praying for one's own death.

    A version narrated by al-Bukhaari says: “No one of you should wish for death. Either he is a doer of good and will do more, or he is a doer of evil but perhaps he may stop.”

    Al-Nawawi said: This hadeeth clearly indicates that it is makrooh to wish for death because of some harm that has befallen one, such as loss or distress caused by an enemy, or other such hardships of this world. But if a person fears harm or fitnah with regard to his religious commitment, it is not makrooh to wish for death, according to this hadeeth, and several of the salaf did that.

    There is another reason why wishing for death is not allowed:

    The throes of death are very hard, and the terror of seeing one's end draw nigh is immense. Man is faced with nothing else like it. Moreover, no one knows what awaits him after death. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound. Wishing for death is seeking something which is unknown. Perhaps if he wishes for death because of some hardship that he has fallen into, he may end up like one who jumps out of the frying pan and into the fire, and after death he may find himself in an even worse situation. In that case, wishing for death is akin to seeking to hasten calamity before it happens. No wise man should do that, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not wish to meet the enemy, and ask Allaah to keep you safe and sound.” (Agreed upon). A hadeeth to this effect has been narrated, but it is da’eef (weak).

    It was narrated that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not wish for death, for the terror that follows death is immense. It is a sign of blessing to live long and be guided by Allaah to repent.” Narrated by Ahmad; classed as da’eef by al-Albaani in Silsilat al-Ahaadeeth al-Da’eefah, 885.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    Ok, what are the ways for me to work so that God will accept my prayer? Because, I want to meet them again in Paradise. And my Christian grandfather died while being unaware of Islam. Is there anything I can do so that God will Cause him on the day of judgment to accept Islam including his parents? Because, I want to meet even him in Paradise again.
    Keep on doing dua of hidaya for your mother, sister and other relatives who do you love.

    About forefathers:

    * if someone died on kufr his abode is hell
    * if someone couldn't get the msg of Islam in his whole life, according to some scholars he's amongst the people of araf and oneday these people will be entered in heaven.
    * some scholars are of opinion that one day hell will come to an end and all the dwellers of hell will go to heaven
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    'Abdur-Rahman bin Abi-Bakrah narrated from his father that a man said:


    "O Messenger of Allah! Which of the people is the best?" He said: "He whose life is long and his deeds are good." He said: "Then which of the people is the worst?" He said: "He whose life is long and his deeds are bad."

    Jaami al-Tirmidhi Hadiith No. 2330



    It was narrated from Talhah bin ‘Ubaidullah that two men from Bali came to the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam). They had become Muslim together, but one of them used to strive harder than the other. The one who used to strive harder went out to fight and was martyred. The other one stayed for a year longer, then he passed away. Talhah said:


    “I saw in a dream that I was at the gate of Paradise and I saw them (those two men). Someone came out of Paradise and admitted the one who had died last, then he came out and admitted the one who had been martyred. Then he came back to me and said: ‘Go back, for your time has not yet come.’” The next morning, Talhah told the people of that and they were amazed. News of that reached the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) and they told him the story. He said: “Why are you so amazed at that?” They said: “O Messenger of Allah, the first one was the one who strove harder, then he was martyred, but the other one was admitted to Paradise before him. The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: “Did he not stay behind for a year?” They said: “Yes.” He said: “And did not Ramadan come and he fasted, and he offered such and such prayers during that year?” They said: “Yes.” The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: “The difference between them is greater than the difference between heaven and earth.”

    Sunan Ibn Maajah Hadiith No. 3925

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus View Post
    Then that's mean I would feel very lonely and I would not have anyone with me if I were to live long life and that would be scary. I don't like future.
    That is selfish. How would those who love you feel if you died. You are thinking how you would be and not how they would feel seeing you die.

    Additionally, the best is the one who has a long life and good deeds.

    Make dua Allaah gives you a long life filled with good deeds and then when you die you die an easy death saying the shahadah. That is the dua you need to make.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    What about when current getting thriugh life day to day is too frustrating, therefore a person is tuck in this life and cannot escape the situation as no help or rescue from Allah
    , yet forbidden to pray for death. What a catch 22 situation aa human is traped in?
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by ZeeshanParvez View Post
    'Abdur-Rahman bin Abi-Bakrah narrated from his father that a man said:


    "O Messenger of Allah! Which of the people is the best?" He said: "He whose life is long and his deeds are good." He said: "Then which of the people is the worst?" He said: "He whose life is long and his deeds are bad."

    Jaami al-Tirmidhi Hadiith No. 2330



    It was narrated from Talhah bin ‘Ubaidullah that two men from Bali came to the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam). They had become Muslim together, but one of them used to strive harder than the other. The one who used to strive harder went out to fight and was martyred. The other one stayed for a year longer, then he passed away. Talhah said:


    “I saw in a dream that I was at the gate of Paradise and I saw them (those two men). Someone came out of Paradise and admitted the one who had died last, then he came out and admitted the one who had been martyred. Then he came back to me and said: ‘Go back, for your time has not yet come.’” The next morning, Talhah told the people of that and they were amazed. News of that reached the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) and they told him the story. He said: “Why are you so amazed at that?” They said: “O Messenger of Allah, the first one was the one who strove harder, then he was martyred, but the other one was admitted to Paradise before him. The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: “Did he not stay behind for a year?” They said: “Yes.” He said: “And did not Ramadan come and he fasted, and he offered such and such prayers during that year?” They said: “Yes.” The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: “The difference between them is greater than the difference between heaven and earth.”

    Sunan Ibn Maajah Hadiith No. 3925

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    That is selfish. How would those who love you feel if you died. You are thinking how you would be and not how they would feel seeing you die.

    Additionally, the best is the one who has a long life and good deeds.

    Make dua Allaah gives you a long life filled with good deeds and then when you die you die an easy death saying the shahadah. That is the dua you need to make.
    So you're saying that I can ask God To increase my life span? Then, may I ask you where is the proof for that? So that I can start making Dua. This would be awesome to have long life because I could see many cool things I haven't seen or visited and more time to do right things such as praying and do virtues.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    Keep on doing dua of hidaya for your mother, sister and other relatives who do you love.

    About forefathers:

    * if someone died on kufr his abode is hell
    * if someone couldn't get the msg of Islam in his whole life, according to some scholars he's amongst the people of araf and oneday these people will be entered in heaven.
    * some scholars are of opinion that one day hell will come to an end and all the dwellers of hell will go to heaven
    That is wrong. I do not believe those scholars.

    Allah promised forgiveness for all your sins except ONE and that is Shirk or Kufir (disbelieve). It couldn't get any clearer than that. Anyone who dies disbeliever, non-Muslim, Atheist, Mushrik, etc will live eternal hellfire forever to abode. Allah (Subhananu Wa Talaa) even used the word "forever" when he mentions disbelievers in hellfire.

    Here is what I know with certainty that hellfire will get hotter and hotter and hotter and hotter (forever and ever and ever) in summer season and colder and colder and colder and colder (forever and ever ever) in winter season. What I know also is that when the weather in hellfire changes it is faster than speed of light when it switches between summer and winter season. There are no clouds like the Earth in hellfire and there are no moon or sun or grass cheppering birds. There is one tree called the Zakuum that have fruits shaped like the heads of devil that the disbelievers will be forced to eat and it will cut their inside and shred them to pieces but will not solve their hunger problem. Hellfire will not disappear and pharaon and criminals and disbelievers and mushriks will rejoice and enter paradise after a certain time. No. They will abode in hellfire forever and eternally...the gate of hellfire will be closed and never be opened again once all the the Muslims and believers with an atom size leave it and enter paradise. Death itself will be killed and the people of paradise will rejoice for they will be forever living in paradise and people of hellfire will be in tears and sadness for they will be forever living in hellfire.

    People who have heard of Islam...didn't bother to seek and learn about Islam....and died worshipping Jesus or declare him (authobillah) son of God or believe God is a male or female and worship false Goddesses or worship the stars or worship the anything but Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) and dies in that state...hellfire is their abode eternally. In the day of resurrection they will not be giving a chance to repent. A great example to that is one of the prophets is a friend of Allah (Subhanahu Wa
    Talaa). When he will be resurrected and his father comes to his son (the prophet) with his face in darkness with all the punishment he got in the grave and begs his son to talk to Allah to forgive him and when the son (prophet) does, Allah (Subhanahu Wa Talaa) tells him to look behind him and when he dies he finds his father is now a horrible looking animal and that animal is thrown in hellfire. He will live abode in hellfire forever and ever and when the son goes to paradise he will laugh and be happy he is not amongst the people of hellfire (even if he does see his father suffering in front of him). For Allah (Subhananhu Wa Talaa) can remove the sadness in people's heart when they enter paradise.

    Please do not take shirk and kufir lightly.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    * some scholars are of opinion that one day hell will come to an end and all the dwellers of hell will go to heaven
    This isn't true, why would you give him false hope?? Stop sugarcoating the religion. The Quran specifically uses the word "abadun" multiple times when referring disbelievers who will abide in hell, which means FOREVER.
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    Is a fisbeliever a non muslim only or a muslum that disbelieves as there is so many non muslims whom would gonto hell for not grasping islam in todays world of religious confusion
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Bmh2019 View Post
    Is a fisbeliever a non muslim only or a muslum that disbelieves as there is so many non muslims whom would gonto hell for not grasping islam in todays world of religious confusion
    Both.
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    Re: It is halal to wish to die at young age and not to live long?

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    This isn't true, why would you give him false hope?? Stop sugarcoating the religion. The Quran specifically uses the word "abadun" multiple times when referring disbelievers who will abide in hell, which means FOREVER.
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