I'm a muslim, living in England. I was wondering what the Islamic stance is on a muslim joining the police? Considering my job would be to restore law and order to the streets?
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look i think that comparing the role of a doctor and a police officer doesn't m8k sence. purely because doctors are there to save lives and in many countries police officers are allowed to t8k lives. which should a muslim be considering the charaacter of a muslim and the conflict within the police force with your views and thiers:sister:
Actually, the police DO save lives. Their job is to come when you're being attacked. Perhaps, in some countries police CAN take lives, but here in the UK, where the original poster lives, the average police officer isn't even taught HOW to fire a gun.
And also, surely the best Police Officer would be the one that has the character of a muslim? Being fair and just.
look i think that comparing the role of a doctor and a police officer doesn't m8k sence. purely because doctors are there to save lives and in many countries police officers are allowed to t8k lives. which should a muslim be considering the charaacter of a muslim and the conflict within the police force with your views and thiers:sister:
Again, i beg to differ.
Doctors saved lives and sometimes, they make mistakes too & ended by taking up lives.....
Police also saved lives, from thieves, thugs, kidnapers, triad society etc. They make mistakes too & ended up by taking up lives.....
As u can see, both have their own roles to play. Without the doctors, the health system will be crippled. To some extent, without the police, the order of society will also ends up in chaos. Like my analogy b4, i would loved my wife 2 be treated by a muslimah doctor. Where the police is concerned, i would also loved if some muslim officers would come to aid in me in my needs.....
Afterall, we must be righteous in discharging our duties as a muslim and as a decent human being. We can always quit if we find something which is in error with our own principal. But to call it quit before even started shouldn't be an excuse for us. Afterall, the Quran teach us to actually try to mixed and learned from others as well.
"O mankind, surely we have created you, families and tribes, so you may know one another. Surely, the most honorable of you with God is MOST RIGHTEOUS AMONG you. Surely, God is Knowing, Aware."
Peace...
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u r absolutely right there. In a sense, who will better understand sensitivity and the plight of the muslim community than the muslim themselves? If only there is a muslim officer in the force, i'm sure that they will brings a slight difference to the police force where the muslims are concerned. This applies to all kind of profession which are in principal with the Islamic Sharia Laws. I do believe that the muslim community must sincerely try to make a difference, to integrate and represented themselves in the local community.
In brother Dish Dash word exactly, we must stand up and be counted....
Peace...
Again, I totally agree with you!
Got nothing else to say ...
peace.
Peace glo
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I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
look i think that comparing the role of a doctor and a police officer doesn't m8k sence. purely because doctors are there to save lives and in many countries police officers are allowed to t8k lives. which should a muslim be considering the charaacter of a muslim and the conflict within the police force with your views and thiers:sister:
Hi Nadia
I think it was me who brought up the wider topic of Muslims working in public services, not just the police. Sorry!
I'm sure some issues are different for the police service.
It just reminded me of another thread where we discussed whether it was halal to become a nurse.
Different line of work, but similar in the sense of a public service, where you are going to have dealing with other people, and an opportunity to represent Islam.
Sorry if I took the thread off topic. :thankyou:
Blessings.
Peace glo
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
Come, let us worship and bow down •
and kneel before the Lord our Maker
[Psalm 95]
Well maybe due to the fighting she had to shout? I've to been searched a fair amount of times when i was a bit younger, was it to because of the colour of my skin (i'm white)?
Trust me when your black police act really funny around you as if you've got ''I'm guilty written on your face''.
Huh? People from all walks of life call them that, A majority of police abuse their power, oh I'm a police officer don't mess with me, once this women officer made a show of me by screaming in my face, seriously I doubt she'd have the nerve if she wasn't a policewomen.
I bet she would.
Hello dishdash it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to engage in an argument with another member in any one of our forums?
It was about 2 years ago, some students from our school had a fight with other students from a rival school just across the road, well the story goes me and my mates were at the bus-stop wating for the bus we were just talking and guess what she gets in my face acting all hard for no reason she could've just said it in a clam manner and I would've responded better, also I've been searched in numerous places, all for the colour of my skin.
Do you prefer being described as having a chip on your shoulder or just a having a victim mentality?!
Is your skin green?
Now - Umm Mu'minah - Babar Ahmad! Ahhhhhh..... I have NO sympathy for him whatsoever! I stand by my earlier comments - throw away the key. I cannot go into details, but I do know EXACTLY what's going on there. No innocent Moslem was harmed during the raids I can assure you of that though. I cannot and will not say more on this. Neither do I particularly care what your passionately held but ultimately ill-informed views consist of.
There are many technical points of procedure that were thoroughly breached though. But they are far more widely known and understood.
One of the things about the people who practise my deen that I love and hate in equal measure most is the way we will defend so sincerely those who would be called our own. For sure we should make 70 excuses. But note also the Rasool did not say 71, or 1001 or keep on making excuses ad infinitum.
Anyway - this is not a thread about alleged police brutality, alleged terrorists or even IT's perpetual 'is it cos I is black?' mentality.
Join the police, and represent our community, our deen and our mercy.
Last edited by dishdash; 05-26-2006 at 12:04 AM.
Hello dishdash it appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks, why not take a few moments to engage in an argument with another member in any one of our forums?
Do you prefer being described as having a chip on your shoulder or just a having a victim mentality?!
Is your skin green?
Now - Umm Mu'minah - Babar Ahmad! Ahhhhhh..... I have NO sympathy for him whatsoever! I stand by my earlier comments - throw away the key. I cannot go into details, but I do know EXACTLY what's going on there. No innocent Moslem was harmed during the raids I can assure you of that though. I cannot and will not say more on this. Neither do I particularly care what your passionately held but ultimately ill-informed views consist of.
There are many technical points of procedure that were thoroughly breached though. But they are far more widely known and understood.
One of the things about the people who practise my deen that I love and hate in equal measure most is the way we will defend so sincerely those who would be called our own. For sure we should make 70 excuses. But note also the Rasool did not say 71, or 1001 or keep on making excuses ad infinitum.
Anyway - this is not a thread about alleged police brutality, alleged terrorists or even IT's perpetual 'is it cos I is black?' mentality.
Join the police, and represent our community, our deen and our mercy.
Huh? whats your problem, you assume he's guilty then tell us why? other wise keep your comments to yourself, I'm shocked, and btw Police do target people cause of the colour of their skin I've had numerous exprience, I was at the wrong place at the wrong time but My skin stood out I guess.
When i was younger i wanted to join the police coz u get to ride horses
Puh you would. (me too) You know they sacked 200 police officers from our area with no excuse-or so i read in an election leaflet. Some people might call me paranoid but i bet it was all the normal police.
By the way glo your avatar is so adorable. It reminds me of when the Arabs in the times of ignorance used to bury their baby daughters.
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