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    folks!

    I've been wondering about these questions for sometime.

    Is it permissible in islam to work in a foreign (non muslim) country without a work permit?

    If not, would the money he'd make out of that work will be Haram?

    Similarly, if someone is under full time contract with an organization, but have free hours in the evening, can he work privately to earn additional money in those free hours, despite prohibition by that organization? What would be the status of that money, Haram or halal?

    Your help would be appreciated, inshAllah

    Jazakumullah Khair



    P.S. i wasn't sure where exactly in the forum should i post it. Mod's can re-position this thread if they feel it's in the wrong section. adios
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    It'd be great if some fatwa/ruling can be posted with an authentic source.
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sohrab View Post
    folks!

    I've been wondering about these questions for sometime.

    Is it permissible in islam to work in a foreign (non muslim) country without a work permit?

    If not, would the money he'd make out of that work will be Haram?

    Similarly, if someone is under full time contract with an organization, but have free hours in the evening, can he work privately to earn additional money in those free hours, despite prohibition by that organization? What would be the status of that money, Haram or halal?

    Your help would be appreciated, inshAllah

    Jazakumullah Khair



    P.S. i wasn't sure where exactly in the forum should i post it. Mod's can re-position this thread if they feel it's in the wrong section. adios
    Why would you think Islam would permit breaking valid and reasonable laws of a country?
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    Why would you think Islam would permit breaking valid and reasonable laws of a country?
    Why would you think you are not bound by the laws of the country you are living in?
    Fair enough...i know it sounds awful but you'd be amazed how many muslims consider the money earned this way to be lawful :eek:... these questions need clear answers don't you think?
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sohrab View Post
    Fair enough...i know it sounds awful but you'd be amazed how many muslims consider the money earned this way to be lawful :eek:... these questions need clear answers don't you think?
    yes.
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country



    So long as the rules and regulations don't go against Islam, you are obliged by Islam to follow your ameer. In this case, the country, it's government, the rules set out by it. Also, the organisation you work under.

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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sohrab View Post
    Fair enough...i know it sounds awful but you'd be amazed how many muslims consider the money earned this way to be lawful :eek:... these questions need clear answers don't you think?
    I'm amazed at many things that many Muslims consider OK.

    If you answer my questions, I think the answer to your question is obvious.

    Why would you think Islam would permit breaking valid and reasonable laws of a country?
    Why would you think you are not bound by the laws of the country you are living in?
    But I noticed that you didn't respond to the questions.
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    You would also be stealing from the country in the form of benefiting from public goods w/o giving anything back.
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    owh...don't kill his thread. have pity on him. He is trying his best to get an opinion / answer from a scholar.

    So can we just wait.
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    calm down people... we are student and we are waiting for answer...

    i'm waiting some fatwas from scholar about the problem...
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    format_quote Originally Posted by adeeb View Post
    calm down people... we are student and we are waiting for answer...

    i'm waiting some fatwas from scholar about the problem...
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    Re: Working without a work permit in a foreign country

    format_quote Originally Posted by Liúyú de Lian View Post


    So long as the rules and regulations don't go against Islam, you are obliged by Islam to follow your ameer. In this case, the country, it's government, the rules set out by it. Also, the organisation you work under.

    Very true. But if i'm breaking that law of country/organization (which certainly isn't against islam) and earning money...i'm getting "haram" money? i mean as haram as, say, "riba" (interest/usury)?
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