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    Throne, Chair, Hands, Shin - Interpetation (OP)




    I want to discuss the different interpetations regarding these words in the Quran and hadiths

    I think from what i know, basically, there two views about hands and shin

    and maybe 3 different views about throne and chair

    may Allah (SwT) help us in this discussion and increase our knowledge about tawheed

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

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    The explanation of that is very simple.

    Allah swt has hands, eyes, etc. because He say He does, but the nature of these is unknown to us, so it could very well be metaphorical.

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    Agreed. Yes wording is important.

    It all comes down to the verse from Ash-Shura:
    There is nothing like Him

    And we cannot comprehend His nature.
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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation



    Meaning of Hands in the Quran

    042.030
    And whatever affliction befalls you, it is on account of what your hands have wrought, and (yet) He pardons most (of your faults).

    Hands meaning: Own will and actions

    022.010
    This is due to what your two hands have sent before, and because Allah is not in the least unjust to the servants.

    Hands meaning: Own will and actions

    002.195
    And spend in the way of Allah and cast not yourselves to perdition with your own hands, and do good (to others); surely Allah loves the doers of good.

    Hands meaning: Own will and actions

    008.070
    O Prophet! say to those of the captives who are in your hands: If Allah knows anything good in your hearts, He will give to you better than that which has been taken away from you and will forgive you, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    Hands meaning: Possession, Control

    038.045
    YUSUFALI: And commemorate Our Servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, possessors of Power and Vision.
    PICKTHAL: And make mention of Our bondmen, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, men of parts and vision.
    SHAKIR: And remember Our servants Ibrahim and Ishaq and Yaqoub, men of power and insight.
    Hands was changed to power, it is quite obvious that saying possessors of hands holds no meaning

    036.071
    YUSUFALI: See they not that it is We Who have created for them - among the things which Our hands have fashioned - cattle, which are under their dominion?-
    PICKTHAL: Have they not seen how We have created for them of Our handiwork the cattle, so that they are their owners,
    SHAKIR: Do they not see that We have created cattle for them, out of what Our hands have wrought, so they are their masters?
    So, why do we not take the above verse as in expression when the Quran uses such expression all over? Why would attribute Allah (SwT) hands instead of taking hands metaphorically as in the other verses?

    Bro saying that Allah (swt) hands is incorrect, whether you add the phrase in way the befits his majest and there is no one like him, does not matter, there is no reason to assume this case is different and is not an expression

    Eyes in the Quran also an expression

    032.017
    YUSUFALI: Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden (in reserve) for them - as a reward for their (good) deeds.
    PICKTHAL: No soul knoweth what is kept hid for them of joy, as a reward for what they used to do.
    SHAKIR: So no soul knows what is hidden for them of that which will refresh the eyes; a reward for what they did.
    Clearly an expression

    025.074
    YUSUFALI: And those who pray, "Our Lord! Grant unto us wives and offspring who will be the comfort of our eyes, and give us (the grace) to lead the righteous."
    PICKTHAL: And who say: Our Lord! Vouchsafe us comfort of our wives and of our offspring, and make us patterns for (all) those who ward off (evil).
    SHAKIR: And they who say: O our Lord! grant us in our wives and our offspring the joy of our eyes, and make us guides to those who guard (against evil).
    Clearly an expression



    018.101
    YUSUFALI: (Unbelievers) whose eyes had been under a veil from remembrance of Me, and who had been unable even to hear.
    PICKTHAL: Those whose eyes were hoodwinked from My reminder, and who could not bear to hear.
    SHAKIR: They whose eyes were under a cover from My reminder and they could not even hear.
    Over it refers to the eyes of the heart, that is the vision of the heart


    So when Allah (swt) says

    020.039
    YUSUFALI: "'Throw (the child) into the chest, and throw (the chest) into the river: the river will cast him up on the bank, and he will be taken up by one who is an enemy to Me and an enemy to him': But I cast (the garment of) love over thee from Me: and (this) in order that thou mayest be reared under Mine eye.
    PICKTHAL: Saying: Throw him into the ark, and throw it into the river, then the river shall throw it on to the bank, and there an enemy to Me and an enemy to him shall take him. And I endued thee with love from Me that thou mightest be trained according to My will,
    SHAKIR: Saying: Put him into a chest, then cast it down into the river, then the river shall throw him on the shore; there shall take him up one who is an enemy to Me and enemy to him, and I cast down upon you love from Me, and that you might be brought up before My eyes;

    Why do we take it out of context and attribute Allah (swt) eyes? Why do we not take this as an expression just the other versions used the word as an expression?


    Jenballah


    039.056
    YUSUFALI: "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked!'-
    PICKTHAL: Lest any soul should say: Alas, my grief that I was unmindful of Allah, and I was indeed among the scoffers!
    SHAKIR: Lest a soul should say: O woe to me! for what I fell short of my duty to Allah, and most surely I was of those who laughed to scorn;

    It is clear that here jenballah cannot even be possibly taken as literal, the word 'janballah' was not even translated in the above transaltions literally

    A hadith that cannot be interpreted literally:

    Sahih Bukhari, Book of Ar-Riqaq (To make the Heart Tender)

    My slave keeps on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil (praying or doing extra deeds besides what is obligatory) till I love him, so I become his hearing with which he hears, and his sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his leg with which he walks

    It is important in gaining knowledge, then one does not interpret things so literally, by doing so, for example, the above hadith would not make sense at all

    it is very illogical and silly to take the verses that use metaphors out of context to stating that Allah (SwT) has body parts be it with the phrase 'in a matter the befits him' or beyond our understanding and non-simalar to us, does not change the fact is irrational to say such statements

    in a thread that was closed, it was said that someone who rejects such attributes (eyes, hands, etc) is commiting kufr, but there is no logical or rational proof behind this

    before going on to the arsh and hadiths about Adam (as), I will wait to see what are the responses to what i just posted
    Last edited by Link; 03-15-2005 at 03:18 AM.

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    Al-Falah, please respond directly to points instead of pasting articles.

    I agree with what you have written, Link. The salafi scholars like Shaykh uthaymeen have described the eyes as "Allah's overseeing". this would be metaphorical.

    By agreeing that Allah swt has hands but admitting that we don't know the nature of these hands, this includes the idea that these hands could be references to power, or control.

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    Assalamu alaicom

    thanks brother Ansar Al-'Adl and bro Al-Falah for your responses

    bro Al-Falah i will do my best to respond to your points aswell to the previous points that i haven't adressed soon inshallah

    By agreeing that Allah swt has hands but admitting that we don't know the nature of these hands, this includes the idea that these hands could be references to power, or control.
    brother, if the Quran uses hands as metaphorically, there is no reason to assume he does have hands, if you are stating they are references to metaphorical meanings, then yes we are in agreement but again if that is the case. there is no point in stating Allah (SwT) has hands

    hands as we know has features and functions, but in arabic it is used also to convey meanings, as shown in the verses of the Quran i previously posted

    When u read in the Quran, 'To Allah belongs the keys of the unseen', do we assume that there is a key be it physical or metaphysical, no we take a meaning out of the verse altogether, and no sain person would say there a keys that Allah (swt) has but they are undescribable and do not resemble the keys we know of, cause the verse purpose is not that at all, the meaning of the verse is clear and not one bit confusing, (though the knowledge of it perhaps is)

    the words 'keys of the unseen' represent something that no words are better fit then the words Allah (swt) has used to represent it

    the verse with 'janballah' has been translated to duty, but the use of 'janballah' gives enphasis on it in arabic which is actually lost in translation, just as the verses 'of whom I created with my hands', the 'hands' is used to give emphasis

    Even when scholars talk about jihadal nafs, they say we need a divine hand, say 'divine hand' gives us a more emphasis then saying 'divine help' though and gives a slightly different meaning aswell, I can't explain how but i think you can see that too

    just as the Bukhari hadith i mentioned, replacing the words would make it loose its meanings, but at the same time the phrase 'I become the eyes which he sees' cannot be taken literally, yet nothing can replace the words to convery such meaning that was conveyed, the same treatment should be given to all revelation

    looking forward to your response

    wa salam alaicom wa rahmattallah wa barakatu
    Last edited by Link; 03-15-2005 at 05:56 PM.

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hash


    Link? What are you saying? That allah azzawajjal has hands?!! You are lgiving allah, rabb, the creator, with the creations fetures? Astag'firullah.

    Please restrict yourself, i am not a admin or a moderator, and i apoligise to kadafi the admin for speaking like i own thism joint, but i think this thread should be closed.



    no brother, i am saying the opposite

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation



    and brother, there is no reason it should be closed even if i was saying so, your duty then would be to teach me if I am wrong or learn from me if I am right

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hash


    I apoligise for the mistake, but i still think this thread is a bit on the dangrous side!

    wa alaicom asalam wa rahmattalah wa barakatu

    It is dangerous to talk about how Allah (Swt) exists and attempting to define Him or describe Him (cause it is impossible), this is totaly forbiden in Islam for we having nothing past the divine names which are the foundation of all things

    however to discuss meanings of verses and fundemental aspects of tawheed, is fruitful and beneficial, and not at all dangerous
    Last edited by Link; 03-15-2005 at 06:13 PM.

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    link,
    What is your statement on this from Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah:
    15.1 ALLAAH HAS TWO HANDS THAT BEFIT HIM.

    - Both being from His Attributes that pertains to His Self being in a manner that befits Him.

    15.1.1 QUR'AAN: (38):75

    15.1.2 HADEETH:

    al- Bukhaaree, (Eng.) Vol.9, H515; Muslim (Eng.) Vol. 2., H2179, "The Hand of Allaah is full and gives continuously."

    15.2 IT DOES NOT MEAN "POWER" [AL- QOOWAH] OR "BLESSING" [AN- NI'MAH]

    15.2.1 IT DIFFERS FROM WHAT IS APPARENT FROM THE TEXTS.

    - And there's no proof for these figurative meanings.

    15.2.2 THESE MEANINGS ARE IMPOSSIBLE IN THE LANGUAGE.

    - As in Arabic, it's impossible to say that "Two Hands" means "Two Powers" or "Two Blessings".

    15.2.3 POWER OR BLESSING IS NEVER FOUND IN THE DUAL FORM.

    - While Hand is found as dual - i.e. the Two Hands of Allaah.
    - So how can the former be meanings for the latter?

    15.2.4 IF WE ASSUMED IT DID MEAN "POWER"

    - Then referring to (38):75, it could then be correct to say that Iblees was also made by Allaah's Hands [i.e. Power, according to this false belief]. This is absurd!
    - And Iblees would have argued against Allaah via this, as he would claim to be the same as Aadam - both being created by His "Power" - according to this false interpretation.

    15.2.5 THE HANDS ARE DESCRIBED SUCH THAT THEY CAN ONLY BE HANDS.

    - The texts have described a Palm for Allaah [al Kaff] and has affirmed Fingers [al- Asaabi'] and that His Hand Grasps [al Qabd] and Shakes [al Hazz]

    - Hadeeth: al-Bukhaaree (Eng.) Vol. 9, H604; Muslim (Eng.) Vol. 4, H6699: "Allaah will grasp the heavens with His Hand and the earth with the other, then He will shake them ..."
    How can power have a palm or a finger?
    Allah swt has hands that befit His magesty.
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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation



    yes, Abu Hanifa also says in his Figh Al-Akbar:

    4.God knows, but not as we know; He has power, but not as we have power; He sees, but not as we see; He hears, but not as we hear; and He speaks, but not as we speak. We speak by means of the speech organs and sounds, whereas God Most High speaks with neither organs nor sounds. Sounds are created, and the word of God Most High is uncreated. He is a thing, but unlike other things; by saying "thing," we intend merely to affirm His reality. He has neither body nor substance, neither accidental property nor limit, neither opposite nor like nor similitude. He has a hand, a face, and a self (nafs); the mention that God most High has made of these in the Qur'an has the sense that these are among His attributes, and no question can be raised concerning their modality (bila kayf). It cannot be said that His hand represents His power of His bestowal of bounty, because such an interpretation would require a negation of an attribute. This is the path taken by the Qadarites and the Mu'tazilites (two theological sects in early Islam that deviated from the path of Ahl as-Sunna - trans.) Rather, His hand is an attribute, of unknowable modality, in the same way that His anger and pleasure are two attributes of unknowable modality God Most High created things out of nothing, and He had knowledge of them in pre-eternity, before their creation.

    http://www.sunnipath.com/Resources/P...R00000245.aspx



    But if your a ahlel-hadith, why do u care what scholars say? should u not follow Quran and Sunna? Indeed I already showed how hands are used to show different meanings in the Quran and exactly why hands and other words are not used to replace it

    Tell me when Yaqoub (as) told his sons to not to enter one door and to enter many doors where there physical doors for them to enter to?

    I would understand if Quran did not at all use metaphors with words, but it does, and it does alot with hands, there are many verses with it regarding allegiance, regarding control, regarding our actions

    Tell me do u take the following literal:

    Sahih Bukhari, Book of Ar-Riqaq (To make the Heart Tender)

    My slave keeps on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil (praying or doing extra deeds besides what is obligatory) till I love him, so I become his hearing with which he hears, and his sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his leg with which he walks...

    If not, then why do u take those verses as literal, when they do not even have the apparent meaning of attributing Allah (SwT) hands

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    Link, I am not supporting the argument because of who said it. Why don't you try to refute his points?
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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    inshallah, brother, if i didn't already, I will try a different approach, I will accept the meaning and apply to some verses of Allah (SwT) and we will see if it makes sense

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    Specifically his mentioning the fingers and palm etc.
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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    Assalamu alaicom

    ibn Tayima also say that God has a face, and is one of his attributes (far exalted is God above such claims)

    Let us look what the Quran has said

    006.052
    Send not away those who call on their Lord morning and evening, seeking His face. In naught art thou accountable for them, and in naught are they accountable for thee, that thou shouldst turn them away, and thus be (one) of the unjust.



    002.115
    And Allah's is the East and the West, therefore, whither you turn, thither is Allah's face; surely Allah is Amplegiving, Knowing.

    013.022
    Those who patiently persevere, seeking the face of their Lord; Establish regular prayers; spend, out of (the gifts) We have bestowed for their sustenance, secretly and openly; and turn off Evil with good: for such there is the final attainment of the (eternal) home,-

    this refers to link between the creatures and Allah (Swt), seeking his light and glory, and it linked to the verses 'Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth... In houses which Allah has premitted to be risen.. Men whom...' in suratal noor


    055.024
    And His are the ships reared aloft in the sea like mountains.


    055.025
    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    055.026
    Everyone on it must pass away.

    055.027
    But will abide (for ever) the Face of thy Lord,- full of Majesty, Bounty and Honour.

    The meaning is that that link will remain, so everything directed at Allah (swt) will remain, and everything else shall perish. this also linked to the verses in suratal noor I just mentioned and has to do with 'wahdatal wujood' and the fact that Allah (SwT) will complete the light of the believers

    this refers to what Allah (swt) says in his wise reminder:

    016.096
    What is with you must vanish: what is with Allah will endure...

    and

    020.131
    ...and the sustenance (given) by your Lord is better and more abiding.

    and to the verses that Allah (swt) will guide the believers to his light and complete them their light

    However, if we take the interpetation of ibn Taymiya, then his other attributes hands, self, shin, eyes, are all suppose to dissappear, and Gods face is suppose to remain, such a belief is impossible

    therefor, his and Abu Hanifas interpetation contradicts the Quran

    I have just applied this meaning to one of the verse, if apply to the other verses, simalar absurd meanings will come about
    Last edited by Link; 03-18-2005 at 03:36 AM.

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-Haq
    Specifically his mentioning the fingers and palm etc.
    Assalamu alaicom brother, i just saw this post now, i do not what you mean, how can Allah (swt) be attributed fingers and palm now also, does he have finger nails, skin and cells also? surely those are criteria of phsical hands aswell

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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    As in Arabic, it's impossible to say that "Two Hands" means "Two Powers" or "Two Blessings".
    038.045
    YUSUFALI: And commemorate Our Servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, possessors of Power and Vision.
    PICKTHAL: And make mention of Our bondmen, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, men of parts and vision.
    SHAKIR: And remember Our servants Ibrahim and Ishaq and Yaqoub, men of power and insight.

    'Hands' was translated to power, it is quite obvious that saying possessors of hands holds no meaning, or unless you are suggesting that Allah (SwT) is praising and distinguishing them by giving them two hands, what is unique about this meaning that Allah (swt) should mention such a thing

    bro, i hope things are becoming more obviously clear that these meanings are absurd, Allah (SwT) does not have hands, eyes, etc..
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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation

    And it does not have to mean power, it could mean he created through Adam though his Will, Glory and Wisdom or even just simply mean that it is God who created Adam (AS) so Iblees (la) should obey God and prostrate to Adam (AS)
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    15.2.4 IF WE ASSUMED IT DID MEAN "POWER"

    - Then referring to (38):75, it could then be correct to say that Iblees was also made by Allaah's Hands [i.e. Power, according to this false belief]. This is absurd!
    - And Iblees would have argued against Allaah via this, as he would claim to be the same as Aadam - both being created by His "Power" - according to this false interpretation.
    I do not see how this has anything to do with it, everything to Allah (SwT) is but a command Be and it is

    036.071
    YUSUFALI: See they not that it is We Who have created for them - among the things which Our hands have fashioned - cattle, which are under their dominion?-
    PICKTHAL: Have they not seen how We have created for them of Our handiwork the cattle, so that they are their owners,
    SHAKIR: Do they not see that We have created cattle for them, out of what Our hands have wrought, so they are their masters?


    So does this mean cows were created superior to Iblees (la) (who was once an angel) according to ibn taymiya
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    Re: Throne, chair, hands, shin--interpetation



    The correct aqeedah is that Allah (Exalted is He) has names and attributes. By implyin' a false meanin' to these attributes is an act of deviation.

    This is an fatwa regardin' to the hadeeth "Allah created Adam in his image"

    Question :
    When Prophet says "Allah created Adam in his image" what does "his image" refer to and how should we understand it?.
    Answer :
    Praise be to Allaah. Al-Bukhaari (6227) and Muslim (2841) narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah created Adam in His image, and he was sixty cubits tall. When he created him he said, ‘Go and greet that group of angels who are sitting and listen to how they greet you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your descendents.’ So he said, ‘Al-salaamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),’ and they said, ‘Al-salaamu ‘alayka wa rahmat-Allaah (Peace be upon you and the mercy of Allaah.’ So they added (the words) ‘wa rahmat-Allaah.’ Everyone who enters Paradise will be in the form of Adam, but mankind continued to grow shorter until now.”

    Muslim (2612) narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of fights his brother, let him avoid the face, for Allaah created Adam in His image.”
    Ibn Abi ‘Aasim narrated in al-Sunnah (517) that Ibn ‘Umar said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not say ‘May Allaah deform your face’ [a form of cursing in Arabic], for the son of Adam was created in the image of the Most Merciful.” Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn al-Ghunaymaan (may Allaah preserve him) said: “This hadeeth is saheeh and was classed as such by the imams and by Imam Ahmad and Ishaaq ibn Raahawayh. Those who classed it as da’eef have no evidence, except for the view of Ibn Khuzaymah, but those who classed it as saheeh are more knowledgeable than him.

    Ibn Abi ‘Aasim also narrated (516) that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you fights let him avoid the face, for Allaah created Adam in the image of His Face.” Shaykh al-Albaani said: its isnaad is saheeh.

    These two hadeeth indicate that the pronoun in the phrase “in His image” refers to Allaah, may He be glorified.

    Al-Tirmidhi (3234) narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “My Lord came to me in the most beautiful image and said, ‘O Muhammad.’ I said, ‘Here I am at Your service, my Lord.’ He said, ‘What are the chiefs (angels) on high disputing about…’” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

    According to the lengthy hadeeth about intercession, it says, “… then the Compeller (al-Jabbaar) will come to then in an image different than the image in which they saw Him the first time…” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 7440; Muslim, 182.

    From these ahaadeeth we learn that it is proven that Allaah has an image (soorah in Arabic), in a manner that befits Him, may He be glorified and exalted. His image is one of His attributes which cannot be likened to the attributes of created beings, just as His essence cannot be likened to their essence.

    Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: “The word soorah (image) in this hadeeth is like all the other names and attributes narrated (in the texts) where the words used may also be applied to created beings, in a limited manner. When these words are applied to Allaah, they carry a unique meaning, such as al-‘Aleem (All Knowing), al-Qadeer (All-Powerful), al-Raheem (Most Merciful), al-Samee’ (All Hearing), al-Baseer (All-Seeing), and such as His creating with His hands, rising above the Throne, etc.” Naqd al-Ta’sees, 3/396

    Everything that exists must inevitably have a form or image. Shaykh al-Islam said: “Just as everything that exists must have attributes that, so too everything that exists by itself must have a form or image. It is impossible for something that exists by itself not to have a form or image.”
    And he said: “There was no dispute among the salaf of the first three generations that the pronoun in the hadeeth refers to Allaah, and it is narrated through many isnaads from many of the Sahaabah. The contexts of the ahaadeeth all indicate that… but when al-Jahamiyyah became widespread in the third century AH, a group began to say that the pronoun refers to something other than Allaah, and this was transmitted from a group of scholars who are known to have knowledge and to follow the Sunnah in most of their affairs, such as Abu Thawr, Ibn Khuzaymah, Abu’l-Shaykh al-Asfahaani and others. Hence they were denounced by the imams of Islam and other Sunni scholars.”

    Naqd al-Ta’sees
    , 3/202

    Ibn Qutaybah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “That Allaah should have an image is no stranger than His having two hands, fingers or eyes. Rather those are readily accepted because they are mentioned in the Qur’aan, but this idea (image or form) is regarded as strange because it is not mentioned in the Qur’aan. But we believe in them all, but we do not discuss how any of them are.”

    Ta’weel Mukhtalif al-Hadeeth
    , p. 221

    Shaykh al-Ghunaymaan said: “Thus it is clear that the form or image is like all the other divine attributes. Any attribute which Allaah has affirmed in the Revelation, we must affirm it and believe in it.”
    Sharh Kitaab al-Tawheed min Saheeh al-Bukhaari, 2/41

    Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: There is a hadeeth narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in which he forbids saying “May Allaah deform your face”, and says that Allaah created Adam in His image. What is the correct belief with regard to this hadeeth?
    He replied:

    This hadeeth is proven from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), in which he said: “If any one of you strikes (another), let him avoid the face, for Allaah created Adam in His image.” According to another version: “In the image of the Most Merciful.” This does not imply resemblance or likeness.

    What is meant, according to the scholars, is that Allaah created Adam with the ability to hear and see, and to speak when he wants. These are also attributes of Allaah, for He is All-Hearing, All-Seeing, and He speaks when He wants, and He has a Face, may He be glorified and exalted.

    But it does not mean that there is any resemblance or likeness. Rather the image of Allaah is different from that of created beings. What is meant is that He is All-Hearing, All-Seeing, and He speaks when He wants, and He created Adam also able to hear and see, with a face and hands and feet. But man’s hearing is not like Allaah’s hearing, his seeing is not like Allaah’s seeing, his speaking is not like Allaah’s speaking. Rather Allaah has attributes that befit His majesty and might, and man has attributes that befit him, attributes that are finite and imperfect, whereas the attributes of Allaah are perfect, with no shortcomings, infinite and without end. Hence Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “There is nothing like Him, and He is the All‑Hearer, the All‑Seer”

    [al-Shoora 42:11]

    “And there is none co‑equal or comparable unto Him”

    [al-Ikhlaas 112:4]

    So it is not permissible to strike the face or say “May Allaah deform your face”.

    End quote. Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh, 4/226

    Another thing that will help to explain the meaning of this hadeeth is the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “The first group to enter Paradise will be in the image of the moon” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3245; Muslim, 2834.” What the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) meant here is that the first group will be in human form, but because of their purity, beauty and brightness of face they will look like the moon, so they are likened to the moon, but without resembling it. So just because a thing is said to be in the image of a thing it does not mean that it is like it in all aspects.
    The Prophet’s words, “Adam was created in His image” means that Allaah created Adam in His image, for He has a face, an eye, a hand, and a foot, and Adam had a face, an eye, a hand, and a foot… but that does not mean that these things are exactly the same. There is some similarity, but it is not exactly the same. Similarly the first group to enter Paradise are likened to the moon, but they are not exactly the same. This confirms the view of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah, who say that none of the attributes of Allaah can be likened to the attributes of created beings, without distorting or misinterpreting, or discussing how or likening Him to His creation.

    See Sharh al-‘Aqeedah al-Waasitah by Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 1/107, 293.

    For more information, see: Sharh Kitaab al-Tawheed min Saheeh al-Bukhaari by Shaykh al-Ghunaymaan, 2/33-98, in which he quotes at length from Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him), refuting the misinterpretation of this hadeeth by ahl al-kalaam and those who agreed with them.

    And Allaah knows best.

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