× Register Login What's New! Contact us
Page 3 of 3 First 1 2 3
Results 41 to 44 of 44 visibility 7257

Compulsion in religion

  1. #1
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    Full Member Array MuslimAgorist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    80
    Threads
    42
    Reputation
    395
    Rep Power
    90
    Rep Ratio
    50
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Compulsion in religion (OP)


    First a warning. Caveat Emptor. Buyer beware. Providing an exegesis of a Quranic verse is an ambitious task for a layman such as me, and I am unqualified. Everything right and true is from Allah, not from Al Azhar, not from Al Jazeera, not from Al Qaida, but from Allah. If there is wisdom in my words, and those words ring true for you, it is by His Will. It is my opinion that Believers should form their own opinion. So, test what I say in the laboratory of your own nervous system. If you independently agree with me, alhamdullillah, but don’t be pointing at me on The Last Day. In that context … this is the perfect verse to be discussing.

    2:256 "There shall be no compulsion in religion: Truth has become distinct from error, and whoever rejects false deities and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold, which never dbreaks. And Allah is Hearing, Knowing."

    The placement of this verse in the Quran remarkable. It immediately follows Ayatul Kursi, which is the most read, most widely memorized, and most prolifically displayed verse in the Quran. So, this statement regarding compulsion is imbedded within potent statements on creed. It may be the only verse of its kind, but clearly Allah intended it to be well known… and therefore well understood.The only published explanations of this verse that I can find are concerned entirely with prohibiting forced conversion. This is a reaction formation to attacks against Islam regarding how it spread historically. It is not an actionable interpretation by Muslims for Muslims. They do not discuss the implications of prohibiting coercion in other matters. So, I’ve done a little processing and I’d like to decompress the issue as I see it.

    Read more

  2. #41
    optimist's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    38
    Threads
    5
    Rep Power
    90
    Rep Ratio
    42
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Compulsion in religion

    Report bad ads?

    Any social system which denies men the right to exercise their free will - is anti-Quranic.

  3. Report bad ads?
  4. #42
    MSalman's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Proud Islamist
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    414
    Threads
    14
    Rep Power
    100
    Rep Ratio
    116
    Likes Ratio
    23

    Re: Compulsion in religion

    ^so we should let people kill, rape, others, etc. since that is exercising their free-will?
    Compulsion in religion

    Fi Amanillah
    Wa As-Salāmu 'Alaykum
    Islamic-Life
    Bringing Da'wah back..to life!

    عن تميم بن أوس الداري أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم: قال الدين النصيحة ثلاثا قلنا لمن يا رسول الله قال لله ولكتابه ولرسوله ولأئمة المسلمين وعامتهم - رواه مسلم

  5. #43
    Rasema's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    From Bosnia in Florida(U.S.)
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    650
    Threads
    28
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    52
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Compulsion in religion

    In psychology, I've learned that humans develop their behaviour both through heradity and enviroment. That we are the products of our enviroment supports Sharia,I would say. Now, that an Islamic state forces woman who don't want to cover to cover is something that is preventing others to follow an reckless example. Same applies for someone who is worshiping a statue of Jesus(pbuh). A child would easily get into a tramp to worship thi sthing etc..

  6. #44
    'Abd-al Latif's Avatar Super Moderator
    brightness_1
    CagePrisoners.com
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    3,680
    Threads
    344
    Rep Power
    125
    Rep Ratio
    108
    Likes Ratio
    49

    Re: Compulsion in religion

    There is no compulsion to accept Islam

    Q.Some friends say that whoever does not enter Islam, that is his choice and he should not be forced to become Muslim, quoting as evidence the verses in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
    “And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you (O Muhammad) then compel mankind, until they become believers”
    [Yoonus 10:99]
    “There is no compulsion in religion”
    [al-Baqarah 2:256]
    What is your opinion concerning that?.

    A.Praise be to Allaah.

    The scholars explained that these two verses, and other similar verses, have to do with those from whom the jizyah may be taken, such as Jews, Christians and Magians (Zoroastrians). They are not to be forced, rather they are to be given the choice between becoming Muslim or paying the jizyah.

    Other scholars said that this applied in the beginning, but was subsequently abrogated by Allaah’s command to fight and wage jihad. So whoever refuses to enter Islam should be fought when the Muslims are able to fight, until they either enter Islam or pay the jizyah if they are among the people who may pay jizyah. The disbelievers should be compelled to enter Islam if they are not people from whom the jizyah may be taken, because that will lead to their happiness and salvation in this world and in the Hereafter. Obliging a person to adhere to the truth in which is guidance and happiness is better for him than falsehood. Just as a person may be forced to do the duty that he owes to other people even if that is by means of imprisonment or beating, so forcing the kaafirs to believe in Allaah alone and enter into the religion of Islam is more important and more essential, because this will lead to their happiness in this world and in the Hereafter. This applies unless they are People of the Book, i.e., Jews and Christians, or Magians, because Islam says that these three groups may be given the choice: they may enter Islam or they may pay the jizyah and feel themselves subdued.

    Some of the scholars are of the view that others may also be given the choice between Islam and jizyah, but the most correct view is that no others should be given this choice, rather these three groups are the only ones who may be given the choice, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) fought the disbelievers in the Arabian Peninsula and he only accepted their becoming Muslim. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform Prayer, and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

    He did not say, “if they pay the jizyah”. The Jews, Christians and Magians are to be asked to enter Islam; if they refuse then they should be asked to pay the jizyah. If they refuse to pay the jizyah then the Muslims must fight them if they are able to do so. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allaah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” [al-Tawbah 9:29]

    And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) accepted the jizyah from the Magians, but it was not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) accepted the jizyah from anyone except the three groups mentioned above.

    The basic principle concerning that is the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e. worshipping others besides Allaah), and the religion (worship) will all be for Allaah Alone [in the whole of the world]” [al-Anfaal 8:39]

    “Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Tawbah 9:5]

    This verse is known as Ayat al-Sayf (the verse of the sword).

    These and similar verses abrogate the verses which say that there is no compulsion to become Muslim.

    And Allaah is the Source of strength.

    Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat li’l-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 6/219

    http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/34770






    Other threads related to this topic can be found and discussed here:

    http://www.islamicboard.com/clarific...n-muslims.html

    Islam and Apostasy

    Refutation to ‘The Real History of the Crusades’

    And there are many other oft repeated threads so please so do make an effort and use the search feature.

    Without further delay


    Compulsion in religion

    And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him.”
    [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-Dâ' wad-Dawâ Fasl 49]




  7. Hide
Page 3 of 3 First 1 2 3
Hey there! Compulsion in religion Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Compulsion in religion
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. Having a religion to believe in God ??
    By Danah in forum General
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 11-24-2008, 08:10 PM
  2. No compulsion in religion?
    By jd7 in forum Comparative religion
    Replies: 97
    Last Post: 02-18-2008, 06:25 PM
  3. Let There Be No Compulsion in Religion
    By Khattab in forum Comparative religion
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-17-2005, 11:37 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
create