ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it????? (OP)
As-Salamu alaykum
i am having difficulty on which seems to be a simple sentence
ضرباً غير مبرح ولا شائن
i got the first part ....a beating that is not violent
and not somrthing, i know its not a verb in the past tense as it would have a maa before it but what confuses me is it looks like an Ismu fa'il but because it has the laa before it, i dont understand why its not monsoob having the extra alif....
ok whos lost???
anyways i would like to know what shaainu means ... its quite a simple word on the outlook, i have certainly had the dictionary out...
oh yes i am also looking for Arabic dictionarys online to help me with my studys ....wasalams
Re: ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????
salams
bro ma is only used in a negative for the past tense la will be used for the imperfect tense for negation.
the text i was struggling with is actually from Ibn Abbas's Tanweer ul miqbas
if its a hadith please show me where i can find this hadeeth ...i need it ...wasalams
Re: ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????
format_quote Originally Posted by Noora_z3
The first part is true, the laa' is called Laa' un-nafiay, but the second part is wrong, every noun that comes after has to be Majzoom, means (Sokoun) at the end. I am pretty sure of my answer..
salaams sis
as far as i know ukhti the noun which coms after "laa" an-naafiyyah " is mar'fuu3 definetly not "majzuum" , i think the one your trying to refer to is : "lum" harf nafiy wa jazam , this comes before the af-f3aal (only) and makes it majzuum .
as for " laa an-naafiyah" makin "a noun majzuum" well thats the first time i heard of that one .....wallaahu a'lam!!
oh yeah you might've also gotten it mistaken with "laa an-naahiya" but this only makes the af-3aal (vrbs) mujzuum...
wallaahu 3laa maa naquulu wakeel!!
wa alaykum ass salaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh
Re: ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
salaams sis
as far as i know ukhti the noun which coms after "laa" an-naafiyyah " is mar'fuu3 definetly not "majzuum" , i think the one your trying to refer to is : "lum" harf nafiy wa jazam , this comes before the af-f3aal (only) and makes it majzuum .
as for " laa an-naafiyah" makin "a noun majzuum" well thats the first time i heard of that one .....wallaahu a'lam!!
oh yeah you might've also gotten it mistaken with "laa an-naahiya" but this only makes the af-3aal (vrbs) mujzuum...
wallaahu 3laa maa naquulu wakeel!!
wa alaykum ass salaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh
salam sis...
hmmmm...well i check it out...Jazaka Allah for the info...
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Re: ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????
well the reasons shaa'in is not mansuub is because the laa' before is called laa' un-naafiyah.....every noun that comes after has to be mar'fuu
I'm unsure about this explanation. Isn't shaa-in supposed to be maksoor because it's doing 'atf on (and, therefore, taabi' of) mubriH(in) because it comes after ghayr?
Re: ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????
format_quote Originally Posted by aakhirah
I'm unsure about this explanation. Isn't shaa-in supposed to be maksoor because it's doing 'atf on (and, therefore, taabi' of) mubriH(in) because it comes after ghayr?
A.
barak allaahu feek!!!
i'll have a look into that it's actually a hadeeth so i'll see wheter it follows mubarrih with the hukum of gayr......well spotted though akhee , there could be a possibilityy that shaa'in s maksoor.....wallaahu a'lam
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As-Salamu Alaykum , welcome sis , i see that youre a student of Arabic ..
may Allah bless you in that ...wasalams...
peeeps please see above ...i need to get the translation for the word ...its bugging me ...i might just be cheeeky enough to give my teachers a early morning wake up call muhahhahhahahahah!
Re: ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????
Are you sure it's spelt with that haa and not the other one? Because with that haa its not found in the dictionary...with the other one (the round curvy one with no belly ) it means beautiful..grace..Also the root word for that would either be baa haa waaw or baa haa yaa, coz words ending in either yaa alif or waaw, you can switch between either one of the three when looking for it in the dictionary.
Re: ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????
as-salamu alaykum , nawal thanks ever so much , youre correct i spelt it wrong ... may Allah reward you all with much goodness for helping ... wasalams
Re: ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
barak allaahu feek!!!
i'll have a look into that it's actually a hadeeth so i'll see wheter it follows mubarrih with the hukum of gayr......well spotted though akhee , there could be a possibilityy that shaa'in s maksoor.....wallaahu a'lam
ass salaamu alaykum
finally i've cracked the code * i think* , well here's the i'raab to the whole sentence insha'allah i've checked it with my ex grammer teacher who said it was correct , but she's gonnna double check with our shiekh ...well untill then i'll put it up , and if you guys see any mistakes that i might've made please feel free to correct me ....
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) it means beautiful..grace..Also the root word for that would either be baa haa waaw or baa haa yaa, coz words ending in either yaa alif or waaw, you can switch between either one of the three when looking for it in the dictionary.
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