Q & A's on Arabic Nahw & I'raab

**amirah_87** · 08-03-2006

Ass salaamu alaykum....

Well the title says it for itself right....for those of you who know 3ilm an-nahw

and how to do i3raab... plz feel free to paricipate in our game!!

so the first question is:

what's the I3raab of this sentence: "Qaabalaniy Rajulun Kareemun"

take care ppl & have fun inshaAllah

AND IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING THEY WANT ANSWERED ABOUT ARABIC GRAMMER...ETC!!..FEEL FREE TO ASK US INSHALLAH

**afriend** · 08-08-2006

Originally Posted by amirah_87

as salaamu alaykum,

lol!!

after the fa3il Iqram , comes the maf3uulun bihii..is that what you meant!!

Yes.....can someone go over this with me?

Like: qum is walk....And muqaam is place of standing? Or am I wrong?

**Mawaddah** · 08-08-2006

Whoa.......umm-sulaim and Princess what's going on now? I'm just totally losssssttttttt

Like: qum is walk....And muqaam is place of standing? Or am I wrong?

Yes Qum is the Order form which means : Walk
and yes Maqaam does mean place of standing

Sorry but what was your question in the first place? this thread has gotten me all jumbled up......It's this writing Arabic in English which has gotten me confused

**afriend** · 08-08-2006

Originally Posted by Mawaddah

Whoa.......umm-sulaim and Princess what's going on now? I'm just totally losssssttttttt

Yes Qum is the Order form which means : Walk
and yes Maqaam does mean place of standing

Sorry but what was your question in the first place? this thread has gotten me all jumbled up......It's this writing Arabic in English which has gotten me confused

I'm trying to know what this is:

maf3uulun bihii

**umm-sulaim** · 08-08-2006

I'm so sorry guys,
whats confusing you sis mawaddah?
ukhayy Iqram, maf3uulin bihi is the thing the action falls on, the thing the action is done to.
for example,
dharabtu muhammadan:
dharaba-fi3il maadhee (past tense i hit)
tu (i) faa3il,( i hit him)
muhammadan (maf3uulun bihi) the one that the hitting fell on, the hitting was done to him,

please don't hesitate to ask ukhayy,

wassalaam

**afriend** · 08-08-2006

ohhhh I get it....so what's to learn here?

Oh man I feel like such a burden....

Please forgive me if I am....Yathaabakum ullah

**umm-sulaim** · 08-08-2006

Ukhayy you're not a burden at all....
Here we can learn the correct way of speaking arabic, the grammatical way (fus7aa), how we can structure our sentences, what word to use when, which words to use where....etc,
and by understanding the grammer we understnad the qur'aan and the sunnah of the rpophet ukhayy as they are both in fus7aa (classical arabic)

Burden no way!!

wassalaam

**Mawaddah** · 08-08-2006

^ Not really confused like that, but it's just that all this Arabic written in English letters which is mixing me up

**amirah_87** · 08-08-2006

as salaamu alaykum,

you get everything inshaAllah akhee Iqram!!

okay umm sulaim!! I AM NOT GOING TO GET MY TUHFA OUT!!!.... :rant:

this has to come from me inshaAllah!!

**umm-sulaim** · 08-08-2006

as you wish.............*whispers...get the book... get the book* hahaha!!!

sis Maw oh i see i now what you mean, but i kinda like it in a way especially with the hajam, makes it fun to read lol....

wassalaam

**kormath** · 08-09-2006

Originally Posted by umm-sulaim

i think sha3baan is mamnuu3 min as-sarf due to 3alamiyyah and ziyaadat alif wa nuun
but i'm not too sure about shawwaal?

wassalaam

If Rajab is mamnuuh minassarf for alamiyya and tha'neesh, the Shawwal may be so?

**umm-sulaim** · 08-09-2006

Originally Posted by kader

If Rajab is mamnuuh minassarf for alamiyya and tha'neesh, the Shawwal may be so?

I don't think so wAllahu a3lam, reason being it doesn't have taa ta'neeth, or alif magsuura like faatimata or 7ublaa...
i thought it could've been 3alamiyyah and 3ujma at first but shawwaal is an arabic word,
is shawwaal mansuub too in that jumla "alluma barik lanaa fee rajbata wa shawwaala?"
or perhaps its just maf3uulun bihi for baarik?
wassalaam

**amirah_87** · 08-09-2006

as salaamu alaykum,

okay is ibleesah mansuub cuase it's mustathnaa...taaman manfiyyan!!

**kormath** · 08-09-2006

Originally Posted by umm-sulaim

I don't think so wAllahu a3lam, reason being it doesn't have taa ta'neeth, or alif magsuura like faatimata or 7ublaa...
i thought it could've been 3alamiyyah and 3ujma at first but shawwaal is an arabic word,
is shawwaal mansuub too in that jumla "alluma barik lanaa fee rajbata wa shawwaala?"
or perhaps its just maf3uulun bihi for baarik?
wassalaam

Dear sister ummu sulaim, assalamualaikum,
In my opinion Rajab is munsarif, for thee is not two causes of mamnooh minssarf in it. I refered some authoritical books like Lisanul adab and Mu'jamul waseeth. tHE WORD Rajab written in both of the "Rajabun" with thanween. Thanveen is the mark of Munsarif, as you know. Thus , Rajab is munsarif not Mamnoohuminassarf. What do you say, sister? Please refer both books and submit your opinion.
Thanks

**umm-sulaim** · 08-09-2006

Wa alaykuma salaam wa rahmatullah,
ok i wish i could go back to those maraaji3 but i don't have either of those of books,
If you have those maraaji3 then i take your word for it inshaAllah, but i don't understand how rajbata is mansuub then?
Unless both rajab and shawwaal are maf3uulun bihi for baarik, its fi3il amr wal faa3il dhameer mustatir taqderruhuu anta, wa rajbata maf3uulun bihi and shaawaala is ma3tuufun 3alayhi..
Wallahu a3lam!.

Thanks for your faai'dah, baarakaAllahu feek,

wassalaam

**umm-sulaim** · 08-09-2006

Originally Posted by amirah_87

as salaamu alaykum,

okay is ibleesah mansuub cuase it's mustathnaa...taaman manfiyyan!!

OK sis, its taaman but not manfiyyan, whats the opposite to manfiyyan?

wassalaam

**kormath** · 08-09-2006

Originally Posted by umm-sulaim

Wa alaykuma salaam wa rahmatullah,
ok i wish i could go back to those maraaji3 but i don't have either of those of books,
If you have those maraaji3 then i take your word for it inshaAllah, but i don't understand how rajbata is mansuub then?
Unless both rajab and shawwaal are maf3uulun bihi for baarik, its fi3il amr wal faa3il dhameer mustatir taqderruhuu anta, wa rajbata maf3uulun bihi and shaawaala is ma3tuufun 3alayhi..
Wallahu a3lam!.

Thanks for your faai'dah, baarakaAllahu feek,

wassalaam

Sister, Rajab, in the prayer is not Mafhoolun bihi, but majroorun biharf jarr-bi- alamathu jarrihi Alkasrathu, for it is munsarif, not mamanoohun minssarf. So, is :Allahumma barik lana fee Rajabin washa'bana.OK?
If you want to see the qutatations of the above said reference books, pls infom me.
Thanks

**umm-sulaim** · 08-09-2006

Oooh all this time i thought it was Allahumma baarik lana fee rajbata wa shawwaala
Thats what i read in the beginning,
Allahul musta3aan.....ok cos that would make it a simple sentence alahamdulillah... majruur bi baa....ok i see...
shukran jazeelan akhee!

wassalaam

**kormath** · 08-10-2006

Assaalmualaikum,
Sister, I saw this prayer written in Arabic in a posting in this discussion, it was this:

اللهم بارك لنا فى رجبَ وشعبان
Therefore I submitted this question, it was not right in my view.Thanks

**amirah_87** · 08-10-2006

as salaamu aalykum,

Okay

it's taaman mawjibun......care to explain why!!??

Baabal al-ishtithnaa.. totally forgotten about it Allahul musta3aan

**umm-sulaim** · 08-10-2006

Originally Posted by amirah_87

as salaamu aalykum,

Okay

it's taaman mawjibun......care to explain why!!??

Baabal al-ishtithnaa.. totally forgotten about it Allahul musta3aan

ok, sis cos remember taaman is that which has the mustathnaa minhu mentioned in the sentence and here its the waaw jamaa3ah...(ay hum al malaaikha)..
hope thats helped a bit...

as for muujaban....now i've forgotten lol....plz check it out Allahul musta3aan!

wassalaam