I reverted to Islam tonight

[Holly3278]

Hey everyone. I reverted to Islam tonight!

[Holly3278]

I can't figure out how to change my religion listing.

[greenhill]

Salaams to you.... and alhamdulillah.

I see that you have been a member for a number of years, but not so active. What was it that made you 'revert'? Perhaps you would care to share?

May you have a smooth journey in the practice of the Deen.

May Allah bless you.


:peace:

[Holly3278]

Salaams to you.... and alhamdulillah.

I see that you have been a member for a number of years, but not so active. What was it that made you 'revert'? Perhaps you would care to share?

May you have a smooth journey in the practice of the Deen.

May Allah bless you.


:peace:

Thanks for the reply. Basically there were a few issues that caused me to convert. The first of which is that there is evidence that the Bible has been changed over the years but we still have one of the original Qurans and it has not been changed in the least. Also, the concept of one God instead of Trinity makes much more sense to me. How could God have a need for a son?

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[Muslim Woman]

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wow :p


welcome to Islam sis :) U are sinless now , pl. pray for us and Ummah.

U may share ur story in stories of Muslim converts thread.

may Allah bless u in this world and hereafter.

[greenhill]

U are sinless now

Yes you are indeed! But something I was reminded of last night watching Mufti Menk on you tube, is that your sins are 0 but your good deeds remain in your account. What a head start you have got! Alhamdulillah!

:peace:

[Holly3278]

Thanks everyone!

[InToTheRain]

:sl:

Ahlan Wa Sahlan :)

[hisnameiszzz]

Mashallah Holly. I am so happy for you. Congratulations.

I hope you get all the support and advice to become a wonderful Muslim lady. Be sure to check out if there are any groups for new Muslims in your area.

[Iceee]

Salaam / Peace Be Upon You.

Mashallah! WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME to Islam! :welcome::rock::bravo::awesome::clever::beard::mus limah:

May Allah forgive all your previous sins and keep you on the path to Jannah!


P.S Did a Christian forum members post get removed or something?

[Nur80]

MashaAllah! Welcome sister! And feel free to ask if you have any questions about anything. :statisfie

[Hulk]

Happy to have you :)

[strivingobserver98]

:ma:! Ameen to duas :)

[Holly3278]

Hi everyone. I am back to being a Catholic again. My doubts about Christianity were eliminated. I cannot be a Muslim. I was not even 100% firm in my decision to be a Muslim. I am still a Catholic. I went to Confession this morning.

[AabiruSabeel]

Hi Holly,

Conversion to Islam is not a joke. We advise you to study the religion in greater depths and take your decision with absolute certainty. May Allah :swt: guide you to the Truth.

[Holly3278]

Hi Holly,

Conversion to Islam is not a joke. We advise you to study the religion in greater depths and take your decision with absolute certainty. May Allah :swt: guide you to the Truth.

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. And I know that its not a joke. I wasn't taking it as a joke. It's just that I could not fully believe in Islam. I thought I was convinced but I was not 100% convinced and I still had doubts.

[Insaanah]

I was not 100% convinced and I still had doubts.

What are the doubts you have Holly?

I went to Confession this morning.

As Muslims, we don't confess or disclose our sins to any human being, but to God directly, no middle man involved between ourselves and God. Prayer is directly to God alone, and forgiveness is directly from God alone.

We have some beautiful prayers for forgiveness, a the translations of couple of which I've put below:

"Oh Allah, You are my Lord, There is no God (and none worthy of worship) except you. You created me, and I am your slave, and I abide by Your covenant and promise as best I can. I seek refuge in You from the evil which I have committed. I acknowledge Your favor and blessings upon me and I acknowledge my sins, so forgive me, for verily none can forgive sin except You."

We also say the same prayer that Adam and Eve said after eating from the tree:

"Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us, and do not have mercy on us, we shall be among the losers."

Allah says, "Seek forgiveness from your Lord, indeed He is Most Forgiving."

and

"...Indeed, I am near. I answer the prayer of the supplicant when he calls on me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided."

Prayer is also directly to God alone. We do not pray to or through saints, nor ask priests to absolve our sins. We do not pray to Jesus or Mary (peace be upon them both) or anyone else.

There is only One God. He alone should be worshipped. He is our Creator, Sustainer, and Lord.

He does not beget, nor is He begotten. He has no sons, daughters, spouses, siblings, parents, cousins, or relatives of any sort.

He is eternal and does not die. He does not depend on anyone/anything yet we all depend on Him. He is free of all want and need.

There is nothing like Him. He is all Hearing, all Seeing, all Knowing, all Powerful, Incomparable, the Creator of the Universe.

He did not/does not, become flesh, dwell in human or animal bodies, nor are there any incarnations of Him. He is not mixed up in His creation in any way.

He is not composed of persons, nor a trinity. There are no secondary, lesser, greater, equal, or multiple gods, nor any intermediaries. And no denying of God's existence either.

There are no sharers, associates, persons or parts whatsoever in His exclusive Divinity. Simply, He is One, in every sense. - See more at: Leaflet on Islam

God has no sons, no 3 in 1's, He is truly ONE. He does not beget, nor is He begotten. He has no sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, parents, cousins, nephews or relatives of any sort. He is eternal and does not die. He did not and does not, dwell in human or animal bodies, nor are there any incarnations of Him (as per Christian and Hindu belief). He is not mixed up in His creation in any way.

We don't believe mankind had a broken relationship with God, or fell out of grace with God, or that babies are born into a state of sin. God forgave Adam and Eve, and forgives us too, when we ask sincerely, resolving to try not to repeat past mistakes. No sacrifice is required, so it is truly forgiveness as opposed to atonement. Allah can forgive us freely with just His will when we ask sincerely.

In Islam, while guidance and the right way has been shown to us, we, as humans, have the freedom to choose, to err, and to repent sincerely, and should we do so, we will find Allah Kind & Forgiving, forgiving freely and abundantly with just His will, no sacrifice needed, because it is truly forgiveness rather than atonement. For all and any in the posterity of Adam, the door of returning to the right path is always open, prior to death. We give Christians and all non-Muslims an invitation to return to this right path, the path of all the Prophets, the right path that has always been.

All the Prophets taught the same thing, and we're following the same Ultimate Universal Truth that they all preached, which is to worship the One True God without any kind of associate in His Exclusive Divinity, be that in the form of a son or otherwise. Blaspheming/rejecting any of the Prophets how they are in the Bible takes one outside the fold of Islam. The Qur'an is 100% the word of God unlike the other scriptures in existence today which have been changed by humans, and it is a continuation, confirmation and culmination of the original message contained within them, in its last and final form, preserved for all mankind.

Your are responsible for the choices you make. Each choice, has a consequence. Think carefully, open your eyes, heart, and mind. Religion, as mentioned before, is not something to keep changing on whims, back and forth, back and forth. One of our prayers is for steadfastness upon the right path and that we do not waver from what we know with certainty to be the truth. Remember that the door is still open.

Peace.

[Scimitar]

Hi everyone. I am back to being a Catholic again. My doubts about Christianity were eliminated. I cannot be a Muslim. I was not even 100% firm in my decision to be a Muslim. I am still a Catholic. I went to Confession this morning.

Hi Holly, may I ask how your doubts about Christianity were eliminated?

Thanks.

Scimi

[Holly3278]

Hi Holly, may I ask how your doubts about Christianity were eliminated?

Thanks.

Scimi

Well, the two doubts I had were concerning the Trinity and the Bible. I thought the Bible had been corrupted but it has not. There are only 0.5% errors in the Bible that crept in over time and they are only spelling and punctuation or missing word type of errors. But the fact is that there are so many other early manuscripts that the correct reading can easily be discerned by comparing an erring manuscript to one with no errors. I should also mention that none of the errors affect the teaching of the Bible. In fact, the Bible is a more reliable document than any other ancient documents.

As for the Trinity, my belief in the Trinity was restored when my belief in the Bible was restored.

[Holly3278]

What are the doubts you have Holly?

Just so you know, I shortened your quote so it wouldn't take up too much room.

Here are the problems I have with Islam.

1. Offensive Jihad.
2. The denial of the Crucifixion of Jesus despite abundant historical evidence to the contrary.
3. The fact that Muhammad was deceived by Satan into allowing veneration of false idols but then corrected by Gabriel. It shows how easily he was deceived at one time and could be at another.
4. The violent nature of Muhammad's revelations which resembles epilepsy or demonic possession rather than Divine Revelation.
5. Muhammad's marriage and consummation of marriage to Aisha when she was a child.

And there are others too but they don't come to mind right now.

[Holly3278]

I am a little surprised that nobody has provided answers to my objections. I am waiting if anyone wants to provide answers.

[AabiruSabeel]

Just so you know, I shortened your quote so it wouldn't take up too much room.

Here are the problems I have with Islam.

1. Offensive Jihad.
2. The denial of the Crucifixion of Jesus despite abundant historical evidence to the contrary.
3. The fact that Muhammad was deceived by Satan into allowing veneration of false idols but then corrected by Gabriel. It shows how easily he was deceived at one time and could be at another.
4. The violent nature of Muhammad's revelations which resembles epilepsy or demonic possession rather than Divine Revelation.
5. Muhammad's marriage and consummation of marriage to Aisha when she was a child.

And there are others too but they don't come to mind right now.

The forum isn't as active as it used to be earlier so the delay in response is as expected.

The objections that you have posted aren't new. They are simply misunderstandings and have been clarified here over and over again.


Please see the following posts, they provide you with links to most of the previous discussions.
http://www.islamicboard.com/clarific...ml#post1542964

http://www.islamicboard.com/comparat...ion-jesus.html
http://www.islamicboard.com/comparat...ificixion.html
http://www.islamicboard.com/clarific...ion-quran.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/clarific...ml#post1550555

http://www.islamicboard.com/clarific...ml#post1542401



Please visit this thread to find out more links: http://www.islamicboard.com/clarific...l-threads.html

[Muhammad]

Well, the two doubts I had were concerning the Trinity and the Bible. I thought the Bible had been corrupted but it has not. There are only 0.5% errors in the Bible that crept in over time and they are only spelling and punctuation or missing word type of errors. But the fact is that there are so many other early manuscripts that the correct reading can easily be discerned by comparing an erring manuscript to one with no errors. I should also mention that none of the errors affect the teaching of the Bible. In fact, the Bible is a more reliable document than any other ancient documents.

As for the Trinity, my belief in the Trinity was restored when my belief in the Bible was restored.

Holly, the Bible contains far more than 'spelling and punctuation' type of errors. Entire books of the Bible have been thrown out of certain versions. Verses have been taken out (by Christian scholars) and then re-inserted later on. If the correct reading could so easily be discerned, there wouldn't be so many versions of the Bible today. And let us be clear that a book containing '0.5%' errors is still corrupted. The Qur'an does not contain even a single error, manifest by the fact that you don't even need to fish for early manuscripts - they are all exactly the same!

The following make it obvious that the Bible is certainly corrupted:




An interesting story:
http://www.islamicboard.com/comparat...rs-market.html

If you're still in doubt, just take this simple Bible quiz and see what you score:
http://exchristian.net/3/

[Muhammad]

Another video for you:

[Muhammad]

Here are the problems I have with Islam.

1. Offensive Jihad.

Please see:

[Holly3278]

Thank you for your help, Muhammad, moderator.

[ardianto]

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. And I know that its not a joke. I wasn't taking it as a joke. It's just that I could not fully believe in Islam. I thought I was convinced but I was not 100% convinced and I still had doubts.

One day, a young non-Muslim man came to an ustadz (Islamic teacher) and told that he wanted to become Muslim. But the ustadz told him "Think again. You can go home now and back after you sure with your decision".

Few weeks later this young man came again and said the he has thought and decide to accept Islam. But instead of guide him to say shahada, the ustadz asked him to learn more about Islam under guidance of this ustadz. Finally, after learned Islam for long time enough, this young man said "I am ready to embrace Islam". So the ustadz guide him to say shahada, and this young man became a new Muslim.

This is the true story of a new Muslim in my place.

Okay, notice the story. When this young man told in the first time that he wanted to become Muslim, the ustadz asked him to think again. It's because decision to accept Islam should be taken by someone who already 100% sure. And when this young man came again, the ustadz taught him about Islam. It's to make him understand Islam and not doubt when finally he decide to embrace Islam.

Holly, I am not angry with your decision to leave Islam after you said shahada. I understand that this is because you were in confusion when you said shahada. This is what could be happen if someone was too fast to make decision to convert to Islam without thinking long. That's why the ustadz in my story told that young man to think again before decide to embrace Islam.

Don't worry, you are still accepted in the forum. You can learn more about Islam here. If in the future you want to, and convinced to become Muslim, In Shaa Allah, we will help you. But if you are not interested to embrace Islam, ..... it's okay. There is no compulsion to accept Islam.

Of course, I still must tell you that Islam is the only right religion, because this is my duty. Yes, my duty as Muslim is tell the truth about Islam without compel anyone to accept Islam.

:)

[Insaanah]

Well, the two doubts I had were concerning the Trinity and the Bible. I thought the Bible had been corrupted but it has not. There are only 0.5% errors in the Bible that crept in over time and they are only spelling and punctuation or missing word type of errors. But the fact is that there are so many other early manuscripts that the correct reading can easily be discerned by comparing an erring manuscript to one with no errors. I should also mention that none of the errors affect the teaching of the Bible. In fact, the Bible is a more reliable document than any other ancient documents.

As for the Trinity, my belief in the Trinity was restored when my belief in the Bible was restored.

Holly, there are over 70 different versions of the Bible, with some even differing in doctrine, differing in the core beliefs of Christianity, and only one Qur'an, no versions.

Even Christian scholars admit the Bible has been changed over the years. And that much of it is the word of humans, not the word of God as revealed to Jesus (peace be upon him).

But the fact is that there are so many other early manuscripts that the correct reading can easily be discerned by comparing an erring manuscript to one with no errors.

Dr. J.K. Elliott, of the Department of Theology and Religious Studies at Leeds University, wrote an article published in The Times, London (10th Sept., 1987) entitled “Checking the Bible’s Roots”. In it, he stated that: “More than 5,000 manuscripts contain all or part of the New Testament in its original language. These range in date from the second century up to the invention of printing. It has been estimated that no two agree in all particulars. Inevitably, all handwritten documents are liable to contain accidental errors in copying. However, in living theological works it is not surprising that deliberate changes were introduced to avoid or alter statements that the copyist found unsound. There was also a tendency for copyists to add explanatory glosses. Deliberate changes are more likely to have been introduced at an early stage before the canonical status of the New Testament was established.”

The author went on to explain that “no one manuscript contains the original, unaltered text in its entirety,” and that, “one cannot select any one of these manuscripts and rely exclusively on its text as if it contained the monopoly the original words of the original authors.”

The same principles of analysis which were applied to Bible manuscripts by Bible scholars and which exposed the flaws and changes, have been applied to Qur’aanic manuscripts gathered from around the world. Ancient manuscripts found in the Library of Congress in Washington, the Chester Beatty Museum in Dublin, Ireland, the London Museum, as well as Museums in Tashkent, Turkey and Egypt, from all periods of Islamic history, have been compared. The result of all such studies confirm that there has not been any change in the text from its original writing. For example, the “Institute fur Koranforschung” of the University of Munich, Germany, collected and collated over 42,000 complete or incomplete copies of the Qur’aan. After some fifty years of study, they reported that in terms of differences between the various copies, there were no variants, except occasional mistakes of copyists, which could easily be ascertained. The institute was destroyed by American bombs during the Second World War.

So, 5,000 manuscripts of the Bible, and no two of them agree, 42,000 manuscripts of the Qur'an and they are all basically the same. Glory be to Allah alone, that is a part of the miracle of the Qur'an, that it's unchanged, the same, and fully preserved.

Which book, is the reliable, unchanged book? The Qur'an. It contains the true message of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), the same message that all the prophets of God preached.

I hope you have been able to watch some of the videos posted earlier, and read some of the links provided. Have they helped in clarifying your misconception?

Peace.

[h-n]

Holly3278,

Thank-you for demonstrating that you choice is driven by what others may think, rather then being accepted by God Almighty. (All questions have been answered)

This is why Muslims are successful as they were loyal to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him regardless of persecution from the idol worshippers.

This is why the Christians have failed, as they FEARED the authorities rather then standing by the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him (excuses of no fighting is acceptable, as they still did not do anything to help, and stand by him). IF you couldn't fight for the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him -then you HAVE NO RIGHT TO FIGHT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

Do you think you can use own sources such as hadiths against us?? If we had issues, then surely we would have kept them hidden.

Ayesha reached puberty, if you have any problems, and you say that you speak in a more favourable light for Ayesha-then please tell us all here were do you think Ayesha is going to? Heaven or Hell??? No matter, you can see her on the Day of Judgement.

How do you know how revelations come to the Prophets, and what is normal? Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him never accepted idols.

We don't deny the act of crucifying happened-but they thought they had killed Prophet Jesus peace be upon him but they did not, Allah is the best of planners, the Christians say that no flesh is in heaven, well Prophet Adam peace be upon him's body was created in heaven, and the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him is not going to get another body made for him.

Muslims are allowed to fight those who fight them. Its certainly better then bombing civilians in many countries.

We accept the teachings of all the Prophets, that they worshipped the one God, believed in the Day of Judgement, Paradise and Hell.

Archangel Gabriel never calls himself a child of God, he is a servant of God, as are all the Muslims.

Idol worships is looking towards anyone who is not the one God that includes people. Christianity is idol worship.

[Woodrow]

Just so you know, I shortened your quote so it wouldn't take up too much room.

Here are the problems I have with Islam.

1. Offensive Jihad.
2. The denial of the Crucifixion of Jesus despite abundant historical evidence to the contrary.
3. The fact that Muhammad was deceived by Satan into allowing veneration of false idols but then corrected by Gabriel. It shows how easily he was deceived at one time and could be at another.
4. The violent nature of Muhammad's revelations which resembles epilepsy or demonic possession rather than Divine Revelation.
5. Muhammad's marriage and consummation of marriage to Aisha when she was a child.

And there are others too but they don't come to mind right now.

These are very common misconceptions. Quite often used on anti-Islamic sites. any one of these could easily be a thread by itself.

But some quick answers:

1. Offensive Jihad:

The term does not exist in Islam. Jihad means struggle or effort. Not "Holy War" as many think Holy war in Arabic is "harbun muqaddasatu." a term that does not exist in the Qur'an.

There are several forms of Jihad

Jihad-e-Akbar which is the Greater Jihad we all face, the jihad against our inner vices

Jihad ash-Shaytaan Our struggles against Shaytan and the evils of this dunya

Jihad-e-Kabir Which is a Major Jihad and of 3 types

Verbal-Which consists of doing our best to spread the truth about Islam

Jihad ahlu ath-Thulm-Which is the struggle against evil, injustice and innovations. Often this is within Islam itself against those who would bring innovations into our worship it is almost always verbal it can be physical if it requires the overthrowing of a tyrannical leader.

Jihad al-Kuffar- Which is the struggle against disbelief and hypocrisy it is ussually fought with words but can be fought with our wealth, such as supporting the printing of literature that corrects the errors, It can be fought with our hearts, standing firm agains the falicies or with our souls remaining Muslim even under threat

The final form of Jihad is:

Jihad-e-Asghar Struggle of the lowest order

Military Jihad: When physical defense is required and only under strict guidelines

2. Denial of the Crucifixion:

Contrary to popular belief there is no physical evidence it ever occurred. In fact the historical record does not even support Jesus(as) ever existed. The most common used proof "Josephus" has been proven false countless times.

We believe Jesus(as) existed because the Qur'an tells us he does. We do believe somebody was crucified and those present believed it was Jesus(as). But we know it was not and Jesus was lifted to heaven alive and did not die on the cross.

3. Muhammad(saws) never allowed veneration of idols.

4. There is no evidence any of the revelation resembled seizures etc. Very few took place in the cave. Many of the revelations took place while Muhammad(saws) was speaking to crowds.

5. the only thing we know for certain about Aisha is that she was physically mature at the time the marriage was consummated.

Short answers, just hope they pique your desire to search farther. Any one of your 5 doubts could be a lengthy thread on it's own

[MarlaJohnson]

Mashallah! Welcome to Islam Have a great journey to Islam.

[naba]

MashaAllah.welcome to islam.please pray for all of us.May Allah grant you success in this world and hereafter.Ameen.and give thanks to Allah all the time for showing you right path because Allah in ch 3 v 85 of Quran says no religion besides islam is acceptable to Allah and anyone chooses religion besides islam will be one of the loosers in hereafter.Allah u Akbar.

[fatimataybia46]

Mashallah. That is very good news.