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Is engagement allowed in islam? i don't know if engagement is allowed in islam, as far am concerned i heard it is allowed if both side of the parents allow it and that the person that are engaged are allowed to talk on phone or chat togther if parents allow it? is that true?

and is engagement allowed in islam?
 
Thanks Ameena, Thats been usefull :D

do i need a docter degree to propose? or be a lawyer? modern soceity for you
 
IbnRuwahah said:
lol...Tell me about it :D but I guess being something professional and having a decent income is necessary. Having a good profession will show that you're capable of handling marriage financially. I guess there's a lot more to it that that, although there are some who think that's the only thing that matters :uhwhat
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Thats the thing bro, all they want is a "degree"
I don't have degree i know something in my future the will stab me in the back imsad like not having a degree, Theirs decent job out their in the world...

people work in restaurant? is that decent enough?
People Clean toilet is that decent?

i heard a story from a book i think... u wana hear it?

i know i don't have a degree and appearance but i know that would halt my steps in marriage....

If you bring Islam to their daughters parents such as... "your daughter has the choice to get married to who she want" they kick u out the house before u know it ur at home LOLLLL
 
Go to yo local Careers Advicer.
Yo don't need to have a degree :confused:
 
People should remember that it was only Allah subhana wa ta'alas Mercy and blessing which allowed them / their children to attend university.

And if Allah swt did not will it for some people , who can complain about the will of Allah?

Education is a luxury not everyone can afford. And what Allah does not provide in some ways, He provides in others....

The 'Doctor/Engineer' could easily have very little deen/iman.

People who do not have degrees and who get rejected by families because of this should thank Allah because where is islamic value in that? Its blessing in disguise I say...would you want that kind of family as in-laws?


Humbleness is loved by Allah subhana wa ta'ala.

And intelligence is not measurable in academia, and a hard worker is of greater value in my opinion.
 
SirDemonic said:
Thats the thing bro, all they want is a "degree"
I don't have degree i know something in my future the will stab me in the back imsad like not having a degree, Theirs decent job out their in the world...

people work in restaurant? is that decent enough?
People Clean toilet is that decent?

i heard a story from a book i think... u wana hear it?

i know i don't have a degree and appearance but i know that would halt my steps in marriage....

If you bring Islam to their daughters parents such as... "your daughter has the choice to get married to who she want" they kick u out the house before u know it ur at home LOLLLL
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I don't think you should get dishearted by something like this, even though i know it's easier said then having to go through it, but degree is merely a stamp on a paper to prove what you have done. But if you cannot use the degree for the right thing then there is no use of it. I know people that do medecine but still don't get to work as doctors, they end up starting a business, and there are bare ppl doin law that don't get pass the solicitor stage. And on top of that the key to success is hard work and determination, and this can and must be achieved in all fields. Nothing comes easy and even the lowest paid worker needs to earn his money, which can only be done by the work he does.

I am sure everyone has the ability to work hard, some just have to do it more than others depending on the stage of work you start from. If you are satisfied even in the little you have it will be enough for you and if not then no matter how much you have you'll still want more. Be strong in yourself and work hard in the time and oppertunity Allah has given you, and have faith that there is a soulmate for u.

and remember no degree will ensure a successful marriage, but not having one will not always get you away with stuff. Parents have their own worries, but after the marriage any girl you get married to is going to be ur responsibilty totaly, so you have to be fair and think and plan before taking up the responsibility of what you are going to do. At the end of the day what matters is your emaan and ur sincerety to the marraige, and whoever fails to see that is in loss, not you!

i pray to Allah to make things easy 4 u and help u to find a good partner. Salam
 
SirDemonic said:
Thats the thing bro, all they want is a "degree"
I don't have degree i know something in my future the will stab me in the back imsad like not having a degree, Theirs decent job out their in the world...

people work in restaurant? is that decent enough?
People Clean toilet is that decent?

i heard a story from a book i think... u wana hear it?

i know i don't have a degree and appearance but i know that would halt my steps in marriage....

If you bring Islam to their daughters parents such as... "your daughter has the choice to get married to who she want" they kick u out the house before u know it ur at home LOLLLL
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:sl: That is true akhee, but only because the husband is supposed to the man of the house and the breadwinner. I mean, I would prefer someone with a degree to marry but if you make a sufficient amount of money to sustain the household then it's really no different than having a degree. It's all about the prestige yaa akhee. It sounds better to be married to a brother who has a Masters in Biochemistry than a brother whose a mechanic as harsh as it sounds. Insha'allah you will find a suitable partner that will marry you no matter what your career is. These days work hours are getting longer and both parents are working. Where's the time for the kids? Now women are throwing their kids into daycares and who knows what goes on in there.:muddlehea It's just getting crazier and crazier wallahi. Anyway, you shouldn't let that bring you down at all bro, insha'allah you will find a suitable wife. Allah has something planned for you, for he is indeed the best of all planners. Subhanallah. :)
 
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Sister-Ameena* said:
I mean, I would prefer someone with a degree to marry but if you make a sufficient amount of money to sustain the household then it's really no different than having a degree.
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may i ask what you would consider to be sufficient amount of money for a man to earn to be able to sustain the household?
 
Sister-Ameena* said:
:sl: That is true akhee, but only because the husband is supposed to the man of the house and the breadwinner. I mean, I would prefer someone with a degree to marry but if you make a sufficient amount of money to sustain the household then it's really no different than having a degree. It's all about the prestige yaa akhee. It sounds better to be married to a brother who has a Masters in Biochemistry than a brother whose a mechanic as harsh as it sounds. Insha'allah you will find a suitable partner that will marry you no matter what your career is. These days work hours are getting longer and both parents are working. Where's the time for the kids? Now women are throwing their kids into daycares and who knows what goes on in there.:muddlehea It's just getting crazier and crazier wallahi. Anyway, you shouldn't let that bring you down at all bro, insha'allah you will find a suitable wife. Allah has something planned for you, for he is indeed the best of all planners. Subhanallah. :)
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what difference does it make if someone has a degree and someone doesnt? a person with a degree could get the money but does he have a faith or pray?
He could be the best docter or engineer but does he pray? It's just about money this day.. money to sustain the household, money makes the world go round, and money makes family and wifes happy and everyone! Days get longer, hours get longer yet people is other country give their sweat away for use to wear clothes is that decent?

Society has changed and Islam goes with it :raging:
 
IbnRuwahah said:
lol, you seem worried :X but don't worry! People who are taxi drivers can also get good wives :D hint hint ;)

May I ask your age? Or would that be too personal :?
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Am only 20 and please don't say Enjoy life your still young thats the problem am most unlikely to commit sin if i where to be married, I can enjoy life when am still married :statisfie take tour around the world in 80days LOL
 
You can continue your studies if you wish to do that. But the degree doesn't ensure you a big wage compulsory.
 
Salaam said:
may i ask what you would consider to be sufficient amount of money for a man to earn to be able to sustain the household?
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:sl: There isn't a specific amount to be honest, what I meant by my statement was that the man (or husband) is supposed to be able to maintain the household. If he is not able to do so, then he shouldn't get married correct? As long as you have a stable job and make enough money, then you should get married but if not then you should try and get an education in order to get that. To be honest, I don't know what is ''enough money'' to sustain a household but surely that is one of the criteria to get married.
 
Sister-Ameena* said:
:sl: There isn't a specific amount to be honest, what I meant by my statement was that the man (or husband) is supposed to be able to maintain the household. If he is not able to do so, then he shouldn't get married correct? As long as you have a stable job and make enough money, then you should get married but if not then you should try and get an education in order to get that. To be honest, I don't know what is ''enough money'' to sustain a household but surely that is one of the criteria to get married.
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Like i say money makes the world go round...
It's one thing that every family looks at before they get their daughter married off...

You say I have a decent job I am lawayer (20k above), they say YES
You say I have decent job I am a cleaner (15-18k), they say NO

You say I have a degree in Chemistry, They say YES
you say I went to fulltime work education took alot out of me, They say No

:confused: it's so.....:grumbling
 

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