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    assalmualaikum..
    iam 21 yrs old.a college student.i have very serious disease stampering ...due to this i dont any friends as i will dont talk as iam afraid of people will laugh and also i have inferiority complex see [[[[qatarliving.com/forum/qatar-living-lounge/posts/do-you-have-inferiority-complex-check-out-these-7-signs]]] and due to this my life has became hell ...for me ...now even waking on road with full of crowd ..now due to this diseases i cant work as a normal person ...my question is it halaal for me to make money from haram source
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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    Wa alaikum assalaam brother,

    (smile) Mmm. Can I clarify your "disease" ? Is it stammering? Or have I misunderstood?

    Also, you talk about being able to earn money in a haraam way, when you can't in a halal way. Mmm, what is it really you are talking about? What are you contemplating doing?

    And do you really need to earn money right now? You say you are a college student. This suggests that you are probably not on the verge of starvation (though I could be wrong). Is it absolutely necessary for your life and health for you to earn money in a haraam way? Are you sure you have no alternatives (even if you don't like them)?

    (smile) Sorry, it's hard to comment with so little information. But I sympathize with your feelings of fear and feeling less than others.

    May Allah, the Kind and Merciful, Help you in your dark moments to see the rays of light in your life.
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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    Wa'alaikumsalam

    Basically if you are able to make money from haram source, you are able to make money from halal source too. Illegal way to make money which is haram seem like interesting because it promises big gain, but the risk is also big. And actually make money from haram source is not as easy as your assumption. That's why I choose only the halal way.

    I myself a businessman. Just low level businessman, but Alhamdulillah, I can fulfill my family needs and give income to my employees. In my job I often talk with my customers and colleagues. Do they laugh when I talk?. Hmm .... few of them indeed laugh when I got stutter. But it's okay. As a stutterer I am so familiar with moment when people laugh at me.

    Back to you. Is stamprering that you mean stammering (stutter)?. Is it what makes you afraid to talk to people?.
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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    yes its very important for me to make some money ...
    actually i have a disease called ankyloglossia ..which basically results in limited tongue motion and it is big problem then stammering ......and on the other hand i have inferiority complex [[[for a very valid reason which i dont want discussed here]]]which itself make you feel nervous and,, result you can't talk..and here there is no question of going to interview and getting a job...and i don't know why allah made me like this ???? can any answer that ...
    the way through i want to make money is online and details is given here [[islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=268345]]] and i know its haram but can't it halal for me??
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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    Salaams,

    Would that be classified as a disability?

    Perhaps you should look at a different sphere of work. Without knowing much and maybe talking a load of dot dot dot, you could look at joining an organisation with people in a similar predicament as yourself. Apart from having a better environment where you can develop yourself through interaction but you may also learn the management aspects and have a career?

    Surely, you may be 'tongue tied' but mind is free and physically able. Don't shut the world out.

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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    Assaalamu alaikum Legendary,


    (smile) Mmm, there are a few points. First off, you know, your medical condition is treatable, and frankly, I'm surprised if you haven't already been told this. A simple google search should tell you this. You could try the following link. It is from a reputable source:http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...n/con-20035410


    Of course, there are possible complications, especially given that you are an adult (usually, this is treated in infancy). But that is true of any medical treatment. You might want to research about your possible options and talk with a good doctor. (smile) This can be a little challenging at times, as not all doctors are particularly good. If you know someone in a health-related field, you could ask for suggestions. I find that non-professional family, friends and neighbours are not necessarily very good at discerning competence. Personally, I have found that asking the nearest British Embassy/Consulate/High Commission for tips on local medical services to be helpful (by email). They won't recommend a particular doctor, but they'll indicate where you can find the best medical services. They are typically expensive services, but you have a better chance of decent medical care. And treating something properly at the beginning can avoid expenses in the long term.


    As to why Allah Made you like this...(smile) You know this answer to this, I think. And frankly, we all have difficulties that we are struggling with, though they may not be apparent on the surface. We are on this Earth to make choices and to try to grow closer to our Creator. Suffering is a key component to this process. Without hard choices, what kind of test would this life be? Without the lessons of struggling with difficulties and suffering, how could we practice the Divine Qualities and get closer to our Lord?


    Now for your basic question regarding making a living from clicking on ads. (smile) I think deep down, you know the answer to this, too. Consider the following from Nawawi's 40 ahadith:


    On the authority of an-Nawas bin Sam’an (may Allah be pleased with him), that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
    Righteousness is in good character, and wrongdoing is that which wavers in your soul, and which you dislike people finding out about .[Muslim]


    And on the authority of Wabisah bin Ma’bad (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: I came to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and he (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “You have come to ask about righteousness.” I said, “Yes.” He (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said,“Consult your heart. Righteousness is that about which the soul feels at ease and the heart feels tranquil. And wrongdoing is that which wavers in the soul and causes uneasiness inthe breast, even though people have repeatedly given their legal opinion [in its favour].

    A good hadeeth transmitted from the musnads of the two imams, Ahmed bin Hambal and Al- Darimi, with a good chain of authorities.




    Reference : 40 Hadith Nawawi 27
    English translation : Hadith 27


    It seems to me, after reading your link to the fatwa you got, and the fact that you have consulted other people of Islamic knowledge, that you feel that what you are doing is not right. Indeed, the fact that you are talking about a haraam source in your thread title, says you know there is a problem with it, even though some people of Islamic knowledge, not understanding what it is that you are actually proposing (it seems to me), have apparently ok'd it for you.


    (smile) Up to a few days ago, I may not have understood what this source of income is, but as it happens, I read a couple of articles lately about a massive and growing source of fraud on the internet, concerning selling advertising based on the number of views. (For a discussion of this, you could look at this:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...5043/?page=all) Now it seems that it is possible to tell whether the “person” viewing the ad is not actually a person, but a bot. So I should imagine that it might be profitable to pay actual people to click on ads in order to fool the advertisers, and it seems to me that this is what you have been researching (but perhaps I am wrong). It's called click fraud. (smile) There's an entry on Wikipedia about it, I noticed (incidentally, I am not an expert on this. And from what little I have read, it seems that being paid to click may not as yet be illegal. But it seems to me fraudulent, and I suspect that it may be legislated against in the future, if it has not been already).


    There also seems to be an element of a pyramid scheme in what you are investigating, too. And basically, those that get in early to such schemes may make money, but many other people get hurt. I don't know about the laws in your country, but a pyramid scheme is illegal in Canada.


    (smile) My dear young brother, I do understand that you are feeling the challenges of life. And this opportunity seems so perfect, so easy! The answer to all your problems! (smile) But it isn't, you know. And I think you do know, and this is why you keep asking people about it (to your credit, by the way. You could have just gone ahead and done it, but your struggle shows that you have some strength of character, that your heart is clear enough for you to feel it's warnings). This is the greater jihad, my dear, the inner struggle. And yes, it is very hard.


    Do you really have no other alternative sources of income? I doubt it. But perhaps you might consider the work demeaning or embarrassing. I read this article yesterday http://www.dawn.com/news/1144238/a-l...ho-fought-back. I would suggest you read it. This woman had none of the advantages you had, but she managed to rescue herself and her children working in a halal way, making tassels. (smile) I suspect that this would feel very degrading for you. But the point is, it is honest work. And with it, she fed her children and put them through school, all while dealing with a murderous husband and indifferent relatives, and suffering incredible physical traumas and ailments.


    I don't know exactly what you can find to do, but I really believe that you can find something that is honest and useful, and that lightens your heart. Work on your disability. Though you are embarrassed, force yourself to talk with people and ask for help in finding solutions. Yes, some people may be unkind. But others may well be helpful. Reach out. We humans beings are social creatures. We need to connect with one another. We are Made this way.


    Your tongue is tied, perhaps... but are your hands? Can you learn a trade? Or can you become a specialist in something? If you are good enough at something, people will make great efforts to help you. Think of (physicist) Stephen Hawking... You have internet access... do you know how many free online resources there are in a variety of interesting fields? You could educate yourself through classes offered at some of the top universities…for free! You won't get any kind of paper attesting to your studies, unless you pay for some exams, but you can gain the knowledge. And knowledge opens doors.


    (twinkle) Or perhaps you could study Arabic, read the Qur'an and ahadith, find scholars to learn from... and become an Islamic scholar! Allah Knows, we have a lack of really good ones to consult. And consultations can be done online from your home...


    (smile) What I'm trying to show you is that you have many different options. I haven't even tried to list them all, just tried to show you that you need to open your mind to possibilities. Right now, it seems to me, that Shaitan has closed all the other doors in your mind, so that you will feel that your only choice is between click fraud and starvation. I really doubt this is the case.


    (smile) Anyway, I pray you will win this struggle within yourself. And that your life will start looking more promising.


    May Allah, the Opener, Guide you to better possibilities.
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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    Few days ago my house need to be repaired. So I called a handyman who I know since more than 20 years ago. He is deaf mute, but he can work very well. That's why me and my family always use his service since more than 20 years ago.

    I don't say you should work as handyman. I just want to tell you, with your condition you are still able to work in halal way like many other people. Indeed, you can't work as presenter, news anchor, master of ceremony. But you can work as architect, designer, accountant, etc. I have met and communicate with several people who can't talk, some of them are vendors who use sign language to communicate with their buyers.

    Yeah, bro, with better condition than them why you think that you can't make money through halal ways?.

    About Paid To Click, I can't say it's haram. But if you want other alternative of make money online, how about work as affiliate marketer?. I myself make money online as affiliate marketer although my income from this currently is still low because I am focus to my main business.

    Or if you love blogging you can get money through ads in your blog. You can use Google Adsense, or you can get money from companies that interested to put their ads directly on your blog.

    How about online shop?. My main business in courier agent. But do you know?. Almost a half of goods that shipped through my office are from online shops.

    There are many ways to make money in halal ways. So you don't have to think that the only way to make money is through haram way.

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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    all praise is due to allah,

    im a bit dubious on accepting that fatwa, most business is associated with risk at some point or other.

    depending on who the planner is and who the "spanners in works are"

    ....dont be a spanner!!!


    the thing about inferiority complexes are you either impose them or others do.

    learn the difference and find a good solicitor.


    finally, apply for lots of library positions...


    but seriously, how about ebay or such things... because seriously, its a bad day when people get paid to push a button.


    mods may disagree.



    anyway, i already know that when your struggling its a lot harder to be good.. so good luck and keep the faith.
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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    format_quote Originally Posted by legendaryman View Post
    yes its very important for me to make some money ...
    actually i have a disease called ankyloglossia ..which basically results in limited tongue motion and it is big problem then stammering ......and on the other hand i have inferiority complex [[[for a very valid reason which i dont want discussed here]]]which itself make you feel nervous and,, result you can't talk..and here there is no question of going to interview and getting a job...and i don't know why allah made me like this ???? can any answer that ...
    the way through i want to make money is online and details is given here [[islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=268345]]] and i know its haram but can't it halal for me??


    My Brother Jazakallahu Khayr for your question.We should never ask Allah "why" he has done something. That is like saying that Allah has done wrong upon us or that Allah has qwronged us. Allah knows far better than any of us. We have very limited understand of everything around us. We cannot question the creators decisions as to why he has done certain things. I am sure in the hereafter Allah will answer every question of yours. But for now you must accept that because Allah knows best that he has done this to you for a reason.

    A Muslim is always thankful because if he did not give us one thing then he certainly gave us infinite other things. Therefore we should always thank him and when we feel that we want to question him "why" then we must really question ourselves as to why our imaan (faith) is so low that we would say such a thing to our creator.

    Regarding income then who gives you and me money? Who feeds us night and day? Who feeds the birds every morning and they go home with their stomachs full? Again this is t do with ones level of imaan (faith). We should never lower ourselves to the level that we even contemplate looking for haraam ways to earn an income. Surely your sworn enemy shaythan is corrupting your mind with such thoughts. He only wishes for you to be destroyed.

    My brother turn to Allah. Beg of his forgiveness and ask of him to help you with this situation. Turn to him in the latter part of the night at Tahajjud and beg of him to guide you through whatever you are going through and Allah will never leave your hand empty!

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    Re: when muslims are allowed to eat or use money from haram source

    walaikum salam ,

    quiet busy these days due to my exams .....thank you very much ....
    i think i have get all my answers .that this life is test for hereafter and we are here for obey Allah .and obviously it has some challenges and without that there no difference b/w humans and angels , iam i right ??

    and after observing people in my surrounding ,i have seen that no one is perfect ,every body has some problem or defect or whatever .....

    i dont have much islamic knowledge as i said iam college student.....

    actually i know all my problems can be solved and i can live normal life but all its require lot of money...

    at starting of this year almost jan 2014 when i first came to know about that online source of income and in feb 2014 i had made a full stragedy on making lot of money but at that time i dont have computer in my home later i have buyed computer in Ramadan eid for this online work and after 2 months i have take internet connection and all is ok until i listen to one friday bayan [[lecture]] there he says about haram and halal ..


    after searching i came to know that the source[[as i said earlier]] is haram all my almost one year effort has wasted .....i was like why it is happens to only me ...all in all iam in difficult state of mind ....

    there is one question
    as telling lie in islam is allowed for three situations see [[islamicboard.com/worship-in-islam/34603-lying-allowed-islam.html]]]/.... like wise ....i was thinking eating income from haram source could have allowance and answer this question is not there in google .
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    My brother firstly we must realise that the solution to our problems is not money. In fact the richest people are the one's with the most problems. When you look at the lives of the celebrities and the rich then you will find high suicide rates and many of them undergoing rehabilitation for various reasons. You will always hear of them complain of something "missing" from their lives. They are not satisfied or content and they never will be simply because money will never fill that "void" or that emptiness.

    Money can certainly help in some aspects of our lives but it is definitely not the solution to happiness and contentment as the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said that monetary riches is not happiness but contentment of the heart is happiness.

    So how does one gain contentment of the heart? Allah gives us the answer in the Qur'an and it is in his remembrance that we find contentment of the heart which is the key to happiness.

    There is no excuse whatsoever for any of us to earn wealth in a haram manner. It is Allah who provides and so we should seek our provisions from him in a legitimate manner in a way that pleases him. Not in a way that may gain his anger and wrath. Surely if we earn in a haram manner then our lives will also be consumed with haram. What a despicable life that would be. One would rather have no money than to earn anything in such a disgusting manner.

    You keep trying to come up with ways to justify you earning money in such a filthy manner. surely it is your enemy shaythan that is trying to give you reasons, excuses and justifications for earning money in such a way. Simply because he wants nothing better than for you to destroy yourself. So do not listen to your enemy shaythan or anyone else who tries to justify you earning money in such a manner for there is no valid reason for anyone to earn haram income.

    Therefore do not involve yourself in earning income in a haram manner nor involve yourself in earning or paying any interest (riba) for such things are despicable actions that a Muslim does not involve themselves in. You must realise that no matter what excuses you can think of there will never be any justification for any haram income.

    Therefore go towards Allah and ask of him to help you to earn a legitimate income in the way that pleases him. It is also important for you to learn Islamic knowledge. There is no excuse for us not to learn the basics of Islam. We go to colleges and Universities to learn worldly education yet we neglect the most important education which is Islamic knowledge.

    So look for a good Islamic teacher to learn from in your local area. Many Masjid and Islamic centres are doing short Islamic courses. It is all about making the effort. Earning money is important to you therefore you are looking for every excuse and justification. But if Islamic education was also important to you then you would also make every effort to find a good teacher.

    So align your focus to what pleases Allah and not what will fulfil your worldly desires . Do not put your life's focus on money or any aspect of this worldly life. Those who desire the Hereafter then this world will chase them. But those who chase this world will only get minimum what was meant for them.

    May Allah put our hearts focus in doing everything to please him and keep us away from anything that may anger or displease him. Ameen
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