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Alleged Affirmations of Scientifically Accurate Verses

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    I've spent some time now checking and rechecking references in the Qu'ran for the various propositions about the nature or the state of life, our world, and the universe.

    From the supposed embryology references to the water cycle, everything stated seems to have been discovered already, in so far as the Qu'ran makes the references, by philosophers and naturalists from previous centuries.

    That's not an issue for me. Okay sure, maybe it's a book of signs and not science and as to what could be revealed to a largely illiterate population in the middle east, that's as far as god went in describing the world.

    Why is it that these "signs" are used as confirmation of god's divine revelation when there's nothing new in it or that the vague description, when interpreted, could be applied to our understandings today and to those of the Greeks without any conflicts.

    Is it an acceptance of science as a means to validate a holy book? If so, why not accept all scientific understandings of this day, since the process by which human knowledge and societies progress in any scientific field is that same as the one that confirmed your beliefs.

    Or is it that as a Muslim you cannot have any doubt, and that whatever science discovers (good or bad) is of no concern since the truth (the one and only) is already known?


    So, is it really just a marketing ploy to recruit more members, or has anyone actually put more thought into it than say the lovely Zakir Naik (who on one hand credits science for it's discoveries and on the other rejects evolution on the basis that we're just rebelling against a church for the past 200 years).

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    science and religion can not be put togeter,religion can not say that something in the qur'an is right,and say they have science to back it up,science was not around in the times that the Qur'an was written,and there for thats why the Qur'an and the bible where written,No one knew how the earth works,and how we came to be,the simple fact is that most experts KNOW how we where to be,but its religions push to say Wrong that keeps it down,we know how human bodys are made,because Experts have Made Humans in Labs,If we didnt know how we came about,then we could not remake Humans,or anyother life forms,but yet we have,and have made them for many years now.1500 years ago,there where over 4000 gods and different Religions,Now only 5-10 are the main religions and only 50-100 are low.Why? Because People are getting more information,as we (Humans) move forward into the Future,Religions will contiue to
    "drop" off.its really only a matter of time until science can do what it has been doing for years,feeding or minds with information,instead of forcing it on us as religion does.
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    Re: Alleged Affirmations of Scientifically Accurate Verses

    Greetings, blaze101,

    Welcome to the forum.

    I agree with some of what you say, but this point really has got me scratching my head:

    Experts have made humans in labs, you say?

    Can you show us any evidence of this?

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    Re: Alleged Affirmations of Scientifically Accurate Verses

    Researchers at Northeast England Stem Cell Institute have remade Sperm in there Labs,with the next step to remake Female Eggs,When i say human i dont mean,they made a guy ,and hes walking around down town New york right now,The milli Second that sperm hits a egg,religion says thats life,that why they think its murder,Not really knowing what the hell they are talking about.But yeah i dont no if they have a website,but Northeast England stem cell instutue (NESCI) have done this.
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    Re: Alleged Affirmations of Scientifically Accurate Verses

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by blaze101 View Post
    Researchers at Northeast England Stem Cell Institute have remade Sperm in there Labs,with the next step to remake Female Eggs,When i say human i dont mean,they made a guy ,and hes walking around down town New york right now,The milli Second that sperm hits a egg,religion says thats life,that why they think its murder,Not really knowing what the hell they are talking about.But yeah i dont no if they have a website,but Northeast England stem cell instutue (NESCI) have done this.
    Oh, I see. That's a very different claim.

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    Re: Alleged Affirmations of Scientifically Accurate Verses

    format_quote Originally Posted by blaze101 View Post
    Researchers at Northeast England Stem Cell Institute have remade Sperm in there Labs,with the next step to remake Female Eggs,When i say human i dont mean,they made a guy ,and hes walking around down town New york right now,The milli Second that sperm hits a egg,religion says thats life,that why they think its murder,Not really knowing what the hell they are talking about.But yeah i dont no if they have a website,but Northeast England stem cell instutue (NESCI) have done this.
    I see, so they haven't made any human yet? That's a shame.
    Could you please elaborate how the scientist "remade" sperm?
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    Re: Alleged Affirmations of Scientifically Accurate Verses

    format_quote Originally Posted by blaze101 View Post
    ...The milli Second that sperm hits a egg,religion says thats life..
    Wrong. Islamically speaking, life occurs after the embryo has developed - which is some time AFTER the sperm hits the egg. You really should study up on religion - it's getting rather embarrasing reading your posts regarding such topics. And I must say the following rather ironically, you ''don't know what the hell you're talking about''

    As for your comments about religion and science unable to coexist, I suggest you look into the past, specifically into medical history and Islam. Also note that your doctor or general practitioner is most likely a follower of Islam, hinduism or sikhism.
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    Re: Alleged Affirmations of Scientifically Accurate Verses

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab View Post
    Also note that your doctor or general practitioner is most likely a follower of Islam, hinduism or sikhism.
    That comes as a big surprise.

    Got some statistics, there, sir?

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    Re: Alleged Affirmations of Scientifically Accurate Verses

    format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,


    That comes as a big surprise.

    Got some statistics, there, sir?

    Peace
    I have only been able to find one set so far, and it is rather outdated (2003). Though, the percentage is still quite high and probably higher now.

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