I often have a good old daydream if I'm somewhere boring, y'know - just pondering the universe.
I was wondering...... Is there a reference in the Qu'ran to the shape of the earth - ie. flat or round?
Just curious.
Thanks :sunny:
In Islamic history there has never been an issue of flat vs round earth. Even if you look in 9th century muslim scientist believed earth was spherical, and don't find any argument of any other scholar going against it.
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
In Islamic history there has never been an issue of flat vs round earth. Even if you look in 9th century muslim scientist believed earth was spherical, and don't find any argument of any other scholar going against it.
Brilliant, thanks Chuck - do you have a reference?
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On the matter of "Does the Qur'an" hold any reference’s as to whether the earth is flat or round-shaped. It says in the Holy Qur’an that the earth is shaped as that of the egg of an ostrich; geo-spherical, in Qur’an Chapter 79 verse 30 And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); the word used to refer “to a wide expanse” is "dahawa" from which the verb "da'ha" is derived, and is the word which refers to the egg of an ostrich.
The shape of an ostrich’s egg is that of the shape of the earth; geo-spherical,
I am sure this topic has been covered; you can browse the search button, and look for yourself.
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
On the matter of "Does the Qur'an" hold any reference’s as to whether the earth is flat or round-shaped. It says in the Holy Qur’an that the earth is shaped as that of the egg of an ostrich; geo-spherical, in Qur’an Chapter 79 verse 30 And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); the word used to refer “to a wide expanse” is "dahawa" from which the verb "da'ha" is derived, and is the word which refers to the egg of an ostrich.
The shape of an ostrich’s egg is that of the shape of the earth; geo-spherical,
I am sure this topic has been covered; you can browse the search button, and look for yourself.
peace to you, and Allah SWT knows best.
Some people say word doesn't mean that. It is derived from nest of ostrich and not egg of ostrich. Maybe people who know classical arabic can make it clear, what that word really means.
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
I'm sure Alan Davies got mauled as he usually does on QI, this time for saying that large groups of people ever believed the world was flat.
It has been a widely held belief in several cultures. See here.
The popular idea that people in Medieval Europe all believed the Earth is flat is untrue, and I think that was the point being made on QI, wasn't it? I can't remember the episode that clearly, so I could be wrong there.
It has been a widely held belief in several cultures. See here.
That link has better info regarding this topic:
Abul-Hasan ibn al-Manaadi, Abu Muhammad Ibn Hazm, and Abul-Faraj Ibn Al-Jawzi have said that the Muslim scholars are in agreement that all celestial bodies are round.
Ibn Taymiyah also remarked that Allah has said, "And He (Allah) it is Who created the night and the day, the sun and the moon. They float, each in a Falak." Ibn Abbas says, "A Falaka like that of a spinning wheel." The word 'Falak' (in the Arabic language) means "that which is round."[60][61]
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
It has been a widely held belief in several cultures. See here.
Ah.
Oh dear.
I hope they avoid maritime professions.
The popular idea that people in Medieval Europe all believed the Earth is flat is untrue, and I think that was the point being made on QI, wasn't it? I can't remember the episode that clearly, so I could be wrong there.
Peace
I think you're right - it was about people in Medieval Europe.
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