Can you, as a Muslim, kill people for your family and the society's protection?
In the same sense, Can you kill children (1-13 years old) in order to directly send them to heaven? --in other words, sacrificing your afterlife future for the sake of those children's afterlife future? I hope my questions are clearly understood. Thank you.
Ya Allah, This entire thread has made me crazy enough. Somebody please close this thread. Brother Alqali, its a pointless discussion unless, of course, you have some "serial murders" plan (which you do sound like having one). Allah's creation is his alone, he will decide when each of them will die and what they will get? And if you remember the boy who Khidhr (Alayhi Salaam) had killed in front of Moosa (Alayhi Salaam) was a "boy" and he was a sinner. He was killed not to be sent to heaven but to prevent his parents from the grief which he was likely to bring to them. Also, you can't jeopardize/endanger your own hereafter for the sake of others. I can't give you a reference but there's a verse in the Qur'an which says something like "Don't make your own hands, your own sources of destruction" or "Don't destroy/oppress yourself".
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I've heard(from the mosque or someone very faithful) that there's this example of man who , when asked by Allah to transfer to Jannah after years of Hell, rejected Allah's offer and wished to remain in Hell. Isn't that strange?
I've never heard of this but I'm around 987,876,679,245,754,565% sure that its not authentic. Hell is such a wretch that its inhabitants will keep trying to escape from it every second and Heaven is so beautiful that even from the farthest of distance people would long for it. If you remember the Hadeeth in which Jibreel (Alayhi Salaam) was shown Heaven and Hell by Allah, Jibreel (Alayhi Salaam) had said that nobody would wanna be in hell and everybody in heaven.
Last edited by Ali_008; 08-30-2009 at 04:07 AM.
If Allah helps you, none can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, who is there after Him that can help you? And in Allah (Alone) let believers put their trust.
Surah Ale Imran : 160
It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3483)
Allah (Subhaanahu Wa Taala) does not inspire seeking forgiveness in a slave whom he wishes to punish.
Ya Allah, This entire thread has made me crazy enough. Somebody please close this thread. Brother Alqali, its a pointless discussion unless, of course, you have some "serial murders" plan (which you do sound like having one). Allah's creation is his alone, he will decide when each of them will die and what they will get? And if you remember the boy who Khidhr (Alayhi Salaam) had killed in front of Moosa (Alayhi Salaam) was a "boy" and he was a sinner. He was killed not to be sent to heaven but to prevent his parents from the grief which he was likely to bring to them. Also, you can't jeopardize/endanger your own hereafter for the sake of others. I can't give you a reference but there's a verse in the Qur'an which says something like "Don't make your own hands, your own sources of destruction" or "Don't destroy/oppress yourself".
I've never heard of this but I'm around 987,876,679,245,754,565% sure that its not authentic. Hell is such a wretch that its inhabitants will keep trying to escape from it every second and Heaven is so beautiful that even from the farthest of distance people would long for it. If you remember the Hadeeth in which Jibreel (Alayhi Salaam) was shown Heaven and Hell by Allah, Jibreel (Alayhi Salaam) had said that nobody would wanna be in hell and everybody in heaven.
I'm already satisfied with your answers but I don't know how to close the thread. Sorry.
You can't change fate. If Allah wants a certain number of ppl to live their life into late age, no matter how many children someone kills, Allah will only bring more and the only thing the killer will have achieved is getting blood on their hands.
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