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    This is only for the people that believe Music is haram.

    Are songs like "Who is the loved one" By Sami Yusuf blasmephy?
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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahSyed View Post


    This is only for the people that believe Music is haram.

    Are songs like "Who is the loved one" By Sami Yusuf blasmephy?
    It doesnt matter who the singer is, as long as there is music, it is considered haraam.

    And associating Allah and his belove prophets with music is shirk.

    and listen well to the song , you will notice that the letter 'd' should not have been inserted in word 'loved'
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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by unitedmuslim73 View Post
    It doesnt matter who the singer is, as long as there is music, it is considered haraam.

    And associating Allah and his belove prophets with music is shirk.

    and listen well to the song , you will notice that the letter 'd' should not have been inserted in word 'loved'
    I agree Music is haram no doubt. But I just heard my cousin listening to Sami Yusuf song it made me wonder. If his songs were commiting even bigger sin by singing about Allah and prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. I do not get the last part about "loved" could you please elaborate?
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    Re: Music and Islam

    the title said : who is the loved one?

    the answer is definitely the prophet(peace be upon him).

    but the use of past tense in the title indicate that the prophet was appreciated only during his life in our world...

    We cant use past tense in such a phrase as it would mean that the prophet was loved by Allah only when he was in our world...and this idea is purely shirk.

    It sounds strange to you that most muslims listen to arabic music or music relating to islamic beliefs. But music is haraam and whatever is the words, music will never turn halaal. And besides the prophet himself said tht in 73 groups, only 1 will enter jannat. and that 1 will be those who had sticked to islaam as the prophet and his beloved companions had done. Peace be upon them
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    Re: Music and Islam

    I see there have been a lot of hindi songs lately which has allah, subhan allah and such words. it really annoys me and they will say oh its no harm if there's someone who objects they call them fundamentalist

    for me they are all morons
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    Re: Music and Islam

    ^ English might not be your first language or something, but "He is the loved one" is not in any way past tense. Otherwise then what would "He WAS the loved one" be? There was no blasphemy in that statement or the words, and shirk is only when you associate worshipping other beings with God, no such intent or declaration was made in any way in that song.

    Brother Abdullah, the music in the piece uses full instruments and therefore it is haram despite its subject. It is not Islamic if it breaks Islamic rulings, is it? Only duff (large tamborine without cymbals) can be used with anthems and nasheeds and it is allowed in Eid and weddings for women not at any time and not for men.

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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by unitedmuslim73 View Post

    And associating Allah and his beloved prophets with music is shirk.


    can somebody explain this,pls.
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    Re: Music and Islam

    Brother Abdullah, the music in the piece uses full instruments and therefore it is haram despite its subject. It is not Islamic if it breaks Islamic rulings, is it? Only duff (large tamborine without cymbals) can be used with anthems and nasheeds and it is allowed in Eid and weddings for women not at any time and not for men.
    My question is using name of Allah or Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in sin. Like Music is sin then using name of Allah in music. Example: Writing something on swine which would be deemed religious would be considered blasphemous because swine being forbidden and something written on it religious in nature. I know the intent is different when it comes to music but still the scenario is similar.
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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Haqeeka' View Post


    can somebody explain this,pls.
    Shirk (شرك) is the Islamic concept of the sin of polytheism specifically, but in a more general way refers to worshipping other than Allah

    The person must have made an error.
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    Re: Music and Islam

    Greetings,
    format_quote Originally Posted by Sampharo View Post
    ^ English might not be your first language or something, but "He is the loved one" is not in any way past tense.
    You are right. The word 'loved' in that context is a passive verb being used in an adjectival sense. There is no reference to the past tense in the sentence.

    Just another one of those things that makes the English language so maddeningly difficult!

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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahSyed View Post
    My question is using name of Allah or Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in sin. Like Music is sin then using name of Allah in music. Example: Writing something on swine which would be deemed religious would be considered blasphemous because swine being forbidden and something written on it religious in nature. I know the intent is different when it comes to music but still the scenario is similar.
    No there is no blasphemy, unless the words are insulting or blasphemous themselves.
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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sampharo View Post
    No there is no blasphemy, unless the words are insulting or blasphemous themselves.
    it does not matter about the words as long there is music present.

    prophet had once said that a house where music is played for 40 days (consecutive), Shaytaan takes over the human body and make him do many things without the feeling of guilt. reported by Abu harayra

    But some creed use this hadeeth to say tht naat is allowed as well as nasheed
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    Re: Music and Islam

    Brother please differentiate between haraam, and blasphemy. Blasphemy is when statement or action made that strikes directly at the sanctity and holiness of God and religion. In that singing the name of Allah and the prophet to music is haraam, just haraam. Blasphemy means kufr and shirk auuthu'billah and there needs to be specific proof of such acts being blasphemy before saying it is.

    Second, nasheed and poetry is confirmed to be practiced and allowed in Islam and by the muslims who received the prophet in Hijra as well as in weddings and Eids to the sounds of dufoof.

    No one here is saying naat made to human beat-boxes is allowed though.
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    I am sorry but i dont any hadith that says our prophet mention about nasheeds. According to scholars that best way to praise Allah is verses from the holy Quran. People uses nasheeds or naats to become more closer to Allah but there is no proof that the 4 caliphate of islam had done it. Although the wordings might be correct, none can guarantee nasheed as a mean of praising Allah. To be on the safest side, better listen to Quran recitation than nasheed.
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    Re: Music and Islam

    Salaams,
    format_quote Originally Posted by unitedmuslim73 View Post
    And associating Allah and his belove prophets with music is shirk.
    Do you accept this is incorrect then?

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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by thetruth2009 View Post
    Assalam aleykoum,

    Can people who think that music is haram, can you tell us how do you react with music in your daily life ?

    - TV

    - Radio

    - Mobile phone

    - Computer

    - In shops ......



    Thank you for your replies.

    Assalam aleykoum.
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    Not listening to music means choosing to not listen to music. Ofcourse, things that are out of your control is not a choice but forced upon you.
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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by thetruth2009 View Post
    Assalam aleykoum,

    Can people who think that music is haram, can you tell us how do you react with music in your daily life ?

    - TV

    - Radio

    - Mobile phone

    - Computer

    - In shops ......



    Thank you for your replies.

    Assalam aleykoum.


    I react like that:
    -- TV: waching Islamic tv:Huda tv,Peace tv

    - Radio:in the car:Nur Dubai,only with nasheeds

    - Mobile phone-ringing with ,,dua for going to mosque,,

    - Computer-where is the music here?Voice is off

    - In shops ......ignoring and not seating in restorants we ask the waiter to turn off ,same in taxi.

    And brother AbdullahSyed said it:

    Not listening to music means choosing to not listen to music.
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    Re: Music and Islam

    format_quote Originally Posted by thetruth2009 View Post
    Assalam aleykoum,

    Can people who think that music is haram, can you tell us how do you react with music in your daily life ?

    - TV

    - Radio

    - Mobile phone

    - Computer

    - In shops ......



    Thank you for your replies.

    Assalam aleykoum.
    This is often a great misinterpretation when we discuss about music...
    When we say music is haraam, we mainly associate it as hobby, for leisure time and etc...
    music is simply a compilation of sound...
    Even during the time of prophet (pbuh) drums were used in order to let the people know that ther are being attack and were often used as signal...

    but using drums in other occassions is simply haraam...Just take the horn of a taxi, if you are a driver and a muslim, you will be left with no choice than to use the horn for an upcoming danger...

    And the beep sound of computer is music as well the sound of your fingers typing the keyboard but they are refered in another way....

    What we expect people to understand is that dont let music take the place of your Quran and dont let music occupies ur past time....
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    Re: Music and Islam

    If you believe that music is forbidden to you, how could you function in the modern world? Everywhere I go there is music. Its in elevators. Its in shopping malls. Its on street corners. I can't control if I'll walk into it. Are muslim lands simply devoid of these things or are you to walk away or plug your ears or...?
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