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    Hi, I am a strong believer in British culture and democracy, and am relatively new to politics and religion in general. I keep coming across statistics that shows Islam to be the fastest growing religion on Earth as well as in humble old Britain. What concerns me is I keep discovering references that Muslims believe they will one day rule the world, or are at least are inclined to promote and educate Islam to the Western world.

    I am not one for jumping to conclusions and I understand that there are many facets of Islam as well as many misconceptions and 'outliers'. So I thought best to ask here what is the general consensus on this statement with moderate and "extremist" Muslims?

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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

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    Ok I'll handle the Hijab question

    Non-Muslim girls get eyed up and judged for their looks. I like being judged for my personality not the way I look.

    Hijab is a protection for women. they still get the pleasure of attention from their husbands and are safe in the knowledge that he'll always be there and wants her for who she is.

    Can non-muslim girls say the same at uni?
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    I do not believe in Christianity despite going to a C of E school I do not believe there is a god. My belief is that science has disproved the bible enough to falsify it.

    What is EDL? I'm guessing English Democratic something? I do not vote as I do not fully agree with all the policies of current parties.
    Right so, you are a strong believer in British Culture yet you don't believe in politics or Christianity which you specify as being apart of British Culture... I think your EDL.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by AhlaamBella View Post
    Ok I'll handle the Hijab question

    Non-Muslim girls get eyed up and judged for their looks. I like being judged for my personality not the way I look.

    Hijab is a protection for women. they still get the pleasure of attention from their husbands and are safe in the knowledge that he'll always be there and wants her for who she is.

    Can non-muslim girls say the same at uni?
    Protection from what exactly? (Rapists?)

    Yes they can. Well-to-do British girls can expect trust and loyalty from their partners. Single girls are free to flirt and have casual sexual relations as they see fit, however too much of this is frowned upon and likely to give them a reputation, but alas it is a perfectly natural and healthy way to enjoy yourself and find the right person.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by mystical_moon View Post
    Right so, you are a strong believer in British Culture yet you don't believe in politics or Christianity which you specify as being apart of British Culture... I think your EDL.
    Don't make unfounded assumptions! I do believe in politics, I just don't vote as of yet, and I respect Christianity but I do not believe in god hence I do not follow the religion. It is part of British culture, but you don't have to participate in everything to be a patriot.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    Protection from what exactly? (Rapists?)

    Yes they can. Well-to-do British girls can expect trust and loyalty from their partners. Single girls are free to flirt and have casual sexual relations as they see fit, however too much of this is frowned upon and likely to give them a reputation, but alas it is a perfectly natural and healthy way to enjoy yourself and find the right person.
    Adoption, abortion, STDs and STIs.

    I'll leave it at that
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    Don't make unfounded assumptions! I do believe in politics, I just don't vote as of yet, and I respect Christianity but I do not believe in god hence I do not follow the religion. It is part of British culture, but you don't have to participate in everything to be a patriot.
    These aren't unfounded assumptions, these are words from your posts.
    Ok so if you don't have to participate in everything to be a patriot why does it matter if muslim girls wear hijabs? Surely they don't have to participate in every aspect of British Culture, right?
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by AhlaamBella View Post
    Adoption, abortion, STDs and STIs.

    I'll leave it at that
    There are dangers with almost everything people do, follow hygienic practices with appropriate contraception and other practices and you are unlikely to have any of those occur. The benefits far outweigh.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    Yes they can. Well-to-do British girls can expect trust and loyalty from their partners. Single girls are free to flirt and have casual sexual relations as they see fit, however too much of this is frowned upon and likely to give them a reputation, but alas it is a perfectly natural and healthy way to enjoy yourself and find the right person.
    Sorry, but that is nothing but degradation. Degradation of men, women and society as a whole.

    I see nothing fundamentally 'British' about such behaviour either. I see it as an alien form of behaviour thrust upon the masses through media and entertainment throughout the last century and the last 60 or so years especially. Go back to the 40's and the 50's and tell me how many women you see throw their bodies around between random men.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    There are dangers with almost everything people do, follow hygienic practices with appropriate contraception and other practices and you are unlikely to have any of those occur. The benefits far outweigh.
    You're probably right. There must be another reason why Britain has such a high rate of teenage pregnancies. . .
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    Salaam

    Protection from what exactly? (Rapists?)

    Yes they can. Well-to-do British girls can expect trust and loyalty from their partners. Single girls are free to flirt and have casual sexual relations as they see fit, however too much of this is frowned upon and likely to give them a reputation, but alas it is a perfectly natural and healthy way to enjoy yourself and find the right person.
    Well you are a westerner, so your casual and trivial attitudes towards relationships are rather unsurprising.

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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by mystical_moon View Post
    These aren't unfounded assumptions, these are words from your posts.
    Ok so if you don't have to participate in everything to be a patriot why does it matter if muslim girls wear hijabs? Surely they don't have to participate in every aspect of British Culture, right?
    I do not associate with anything called EDL so your assumptions are highly unfounded.

    It is the culture that you identify with, I for instance with British, a wearer of a hijab is Muslim, and they have a very different culture coming by way of their religion. If you associate with British culture, you cannot be a Muslim, you would be Christian or an Atheist.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude View Post
    Sorry, but that is nothing but degradation. Degradation of men, women and society as a whole.

    I see nothing fundamentally 'British' about such behaviour either. I see it as an alien form of behaviour thrust upon the masses through media and entertainment throughout the last century and the last 60 or so years especially. Go back to the 40's and the 50's and tell me how many women you see throw their bodies around between random men.
    It is not degradation at all. It is liberation to enjoy your humanness.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by AhlaamBella View Post
    You're probably right. There must be another reason why Britain has such a high rate of teenage pregnancies. . .
    That is a problem Britain has, and a strong case why correct contraceptive is not being used wisely.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    It is not degradation at all. It is liberation to enjoy your humanness.
    And what about the girl who has her heart broken by the guy enjoying his humanness and then dumping her when it gets too rough?
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    That is a problem Britain has, and a strong case why correct contraceptive is not being used wisely.
    As far as I know contraception isn't 100% guaranteed anyway
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    I do not associate with anything called EDL so your assumptions are highly unfounded.

    It is the culture that you identify with, I for instance with British, a wearer of a hijab is Muslim, and they have a very different culture coming by way of their religion. If you associate with British culture, you cannot be a Muslim, you would be Christian or an Atheist.
    No I wasn't talking about the EDL assumption. Right so let me understand this. Apart of British Culture is Christianity which you don't follow because you don't have to follow every aspect of it (according to you) but you can be an atheist but not Muslim? But neither of those is apart of British Culture. So why is it ok to be atheist but not muslim according to you?

    And you didn't answer my question.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    It is not degradation at all. It is liberation to enjoy your humanness.
    But it's not particularly historically British behaviour either is it? Something alien is thrown upon you and you don't challenge it, nor see it as an erosion of what British culture really stands for? Why the double standards?
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Junon View Post
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    Well you are a westerner, so your casual and trivial attitudes towards relationships are rather unsurprising.

    Incidentally the breakdown of relationships costs Britain roughly 30 billion a year.
    Another problem Britain has. Please do not confuse the British culture I associate with with the current state of certain social classes of current Britain. As a cultural nation the majority as in quite despair. Something id feel passionate about reversing.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by AhlaamBella View Post
    And what about the girl who has her heart broken by the guy enjoying his humanness and then dumping her when it gets too rough?
    What about the guy who has his heart broken by the girl not being loyal? This does happen, but you recover and move on. You are not bound to stay with your first love your entire life, although you'd be lucky to find Mr/Ms Right. The belief is love after love
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    Another problem Britain has. Please do not confuse the British culture I associate with with the current state of certain social classes of current Britain. As a cultural nation the majority as in quite despair. Something id feel passionate about reversing.
    Funny how Islam has the solutions in order for that reversal
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