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    Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)'s smashing of 360 idols in Mecca (OP)


    Hello everyone,

    We had a Malay Chinese Buddhist Professor visit our University some days back, she returns to Malaysia tomorrow. She is a Professor of Religious studies at some University there, in a very short conversation with her, I realised that she has some negative opinions about Islam. She also has pretty unfavorable opinions about the Malay majority in her nation.On learning my family background, she remarked that one shouldn't marry Muslim men. I personally have nothing against marrying Muslim men, as it happens I am engaged to a non practicing Anglican, but I have dated Muslims as well, & still am friends with a couple of my past Muslim boyfriends, I also have very good Muslim friends, of both sexes.

    She claimed that it was Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)'s destruction of the 360 idols around the kaaba which causes Muslims like the Taliban to destroy Bamiyan Buddhas.

    Personally I have nothing against idolatry, I love some Catholic & Orthodox idols & images, they're beautiful to look at, even though I am no longer Christian, I love their beauty, like I love some beautiful mosques around the world. I also feel people's religious beliefs(or lack of beliefs) need to be respected.I would condemn the destruction of any idolatrous site anywhere on earth-be it Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or Neopagan, like I would condemn the destruction of mosques.

    How do Muslims explain this incident, I am interested to know so that I can give the Muslim perspective.

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    Re: Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)'s smashing of 360 idols in Mecca

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    format_quote Originally Posted by titus View Post

    There is, but you keep ignoring the questions or are having difficulty understanding them. My guess is the former. I shall rephrase them so you might possibly understand them better.
    That is an adequate assessment of yourself so far.. non-questions asked hordes of different ways, don't make you any smarter unfortunately.. just makes us believe that you have some brief psychotic episode with echolalia!
    1) How did destroying the statues help feed any children?
    The better is how is restoring statues going to feed them? at least these way they can keep useless twits from entering their country unnecessarily!
    2) Why did the Taliban refuse the money they were offered to buy the statues? They could have used that money to feed the children they claimed they cared about.
    The Taliban weren't offered money!
    I understand the claim that they were upset that a group wanted to spend money to refurbish the statues because they wanted the money for aide instead (even though there are reports they were considering destroying the statues before such an offer). What nobody has been able to answer was how such an offer warranted destroying the statues.
    lol.. psychic individuals knew they wanted to destroy the statues from before? It is amazing what you can pick up with satellite now a days!
    I also find it astonishing that the same people who can get upset when people don't treat Islam or its Prophet (i.e. the Danish Cartoons) with respect but applaud and defend when other Muslims do the same to another religion. One should not ask for such respect if they are not willing to give it.
    Didn't you just try this with the dome of the rock before? how did that fare for you? It is as if you have so much garbage inside you and need to purge yourself of it repeatedly!
    If you have a rational answer please give it. If you don't then please write another post full of name-calling and insults that avoid answering the questions.
    As the other gentleman said irrational questions have no rational responses.. albeit it the answers I have given are probably well over your head.. a twit is a gadfly who is a nuisance to others and completely ineffectual otherwise I believe that along with your own projections in your first opening statement sum you up adequately.. Is highlighting the truth an 'insult'? or does the definition of matters evolve as you tighten the noose around your neck?
    If you don't like the answers here or the people here, then don't be a member here!

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    Re: Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)'s smashing of 360 idols in Mecca

    The better is how is restoring statues going to feed them? at least these way they can keep useless twits from entering their country unnecessarily!
    So you are claiming that they destroyed the statues in order to keep out people that wanted to restore the statues?

    If that was the reason then why the edict by the Taliban to destroy all non-Islamic statues?

    If they were doing this for the aid then why commit an act that they knew would outrage the whole rest of the world and make getting aid even more difficult?

    The answer is obvious. Aid was not a factor in this. The Taliban wanted the statues destroyed because they considered them un-Islamic and they had no tolerance for other religions or their symbols.

    The Taliban weren't offered money!
    You are grossly incorrect. They were not only offered money, but they were offered money by multiple entities.

    A Japanese parliamentary group offered the Taliban humanitarian aid in exchange for moving the statues out of the country. They also turned down offers by India and The New York Metropolitan Museum. Thailand proposed creating a fund to buy the statues.

    The Taliban turned down these offers. They chose destroying statues over feeding their children.

    How much more information do you require before you come to the realization that the Taliban did not destroy the statues because of humanitarian aid, but because of the their intolerance of other religions?

    lol.. psychic individuals knew they wanted to destroy the statues from before?
    The Taliban attempted to destroy them in 1998 but a local leader talked them out of it. As I have said already the leader of the Taliban had issued an edict calling for the destruction of all non-Islamic statues. There are also multiple reports on other statues and "non-Islamic" items being destroyed. So no, you don't have to be psychic.

    Didn't you just try this with the dome of the rock before? how did that fare for you? It is as if you have so much garbage inside you and need to purge yourself of it repeatedly!
    The same principle applies. A group cannot ask people to respect their religion then say it is their duty to disrespect other religions.

    If you have a rational answer please give it. If you don't then please write another post full of name-calling and insults that avoid answering the questions.
    As the other gentleman said irrational questions have no rational responses.. albeit it the answers I have given are probably well over your head.. a twit is a gadfly who is a nuisance to others and completely ineffectual otherwise I believe that along with your own projections in your first opening statement sum you up adequately.. Is highlighting the truth an 'insult'? or does the definition of matters evolve as you tighten the noose around your neck?
    If you don't like the answers here or the people here, then don't be a member here!
    Just the response I was expecting.
    Last edited by titus; 06-30-2010 at 03:57 PM.

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    Re: Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)'s smashing of 360 idols in Mecca

    format_quote Originally Posted by titus View Post
    So you are claiming that they destroyed the statues in order to keep out people that wanted to restore the statues?
    It is certainly a possibility, it also prevents further misuse of funds which can be otherwise channeled toward more pressing affairs, like making long-johns for British soldiers that don't jingle!
    If that was the reason then why the edict by the Taliban to destroy all non-Islamic statues?
    Really? that is news, because according to the above link shared by espada, caves filled with oil paintings and images of other types of idols were found.. don't you think they should have gone ahead with those amongst others if there were a religious edict which all are to follow like 'divine law'?
    If they were doing this for the aid then why commit an act that they knew would outrage the whole rest of the world and make getting aid even more difficult?
    Only twits with too much free time on their hands are outraged.. I am surprised and frankly appalled at the amount of time you spent whining over statues with complete disregard to human life, whether children or otherwise.. the more you write, the more a disgusting, unfeeling hypocrite you come across!
    The answer is obvious. Aid was not a factor in this. The Taliban wanted the statues destroyed because they considered them un-Islamic and they had no tolerance for other religions or their symbols.
    No one is interested in your opinion, frankly I think you completely inept at forming a cohesive logical thought, as such whatever considerations you have on the side you should keep to yourself or with like-minded twits!


    You are grossly incorrect. They were not only offered money, but they were offered money by multiple entities.
    because you are so credible and have been so far, that is why we should believe you-yes!
    A Japanese parliamentary group offered the Taliban humanitarian aid in exchange for moving the statues out of the country. They also turned down offers by India and The New York Metropolitan Museum. Thailand proposed creating a fund to buy the statues.
    see above, further, it is a matter of property, you have no say or impress financial motivation on others!
    like stated before, it is best to stop looting other people's countries and their civilizations before going off on tangents, just so what you write doesn't seem like a long chain of hypocrisy!

    The Taliban turned down these offers. They chose destroying statues over feeding their children.
    have you anything of substance to impart?
    How much more information do you require before you come to the realization that the Taliban did not destroy the statues because of humanitarian aid, but because of the their intolerance of other religions?
    firstly, I don't take my 'information' from the likes of you! secondly you haven't been parting with any information merely your opinion and like the rest of what you write is to be immediately discarded!


    The Taliban attempted to destroy them in 1998 but a local leader talked them out of it. As I have said already the leader of the Taliban had issued an edict calling for the destruction of all non-Islamic statues. There are also multiple reports on other statues and "non-Islamic" items being destroyed. So no, you don't have to be psychic.
    really? let's have a listen to that conversation, the way you had a listen to their reasons for destroying the Buddhas from the first place.


    The same principle applies. A group cannot ask people to respect their religion then say it is their duty to disrespect other religions.
    You have no principles and are unable to support anything you write with facts, let alone draw similes that have any semblance to real life, and lastly and I think the most important point, is any sovereign nation has a right to do what it pleases with its property.


    Just the response I was expecting.
    we're yet to be wowed with your witticism oh leader of the pack and carrier of the flame!
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