Why do Muslims want to move to "Western" countries?

**Kashnowe** · 10-04-2010

i was recently reading about how france outlawed the burka and hijab in public as well as head scarves in school. i understand the burka and hijab as being seen as a threat to security as a man could very well be under that black veil, you would not know. it would be a very clever and useful disguise for criminals. i do not undertand the law about head scarves in schools, (also turbin, yarmulka,a nd crucifixes) as i think we are all reminded every day that each person is an individual and should not be forced to make themselves invisible, as most religious people actually identify with their religion as their whole reason for being, they should be able to dress accordingly. some are fat, some are tall, none invisible. if a person did not want themselves to be known then they should stay home.

the head scarf law reminds me of communist china. next everyone will be forced to wear a uniform in public....? it just doesn't make sense to me. my mother told me when she was a child all women had to conver their heads in church too.

many people are offended but "when in rome, do as the romans do" right?

so everyone here has heard that the Muslim world does not agree with "western civilization" so then why are there millions and millions of Muslims living in western countries? why are there lotteries for people desperate to escape their just, fair, loving Muslim communities to live among heathens and temptation and evil? why would you want to move to the UK or the US or France if you know they are countries with Christian forefathers and their laws do no reflect the law of Islam and their people are not all tolerant of Islam?

why then do people move here and still talk negativly about the place they tried so hard to belong to. why would you want to follow our laws if you find them insulting? why would you want to raise your children here if you do not agree with the values of the society, which your child will surely be exposed to on a daily basis?

if it is because these western countries offer more money and jobs then why not ask yourself why is my country in peril? have our leaders let us down? have our laws not brought prosperity? have our leaders not invested in our future? instead people leave, rather than being part of the solution they just quit.

it seems to me if Allah wants you to live a certain way, moving to America does not fit into that equation for millions of reasons.....like not being a Muslims country etc etc

**Abz2000** · 12-20-2011

obviously most of us know that 9/11 was an inside job and we can prove it, and we also know they've been caught lying about how many murders they've committed,
but this was an arguement according to their own facts and figures,
useful to anyone who jumps to the term "conspiracy theories".

**جوري** · 12-20-2011

I am impressed.. I'd really like to know who is the head sitting atop of that pyramid mobilizing all these events for a new world order, a united global govt. where of course '911' is the crux.. their trump card to shut people up should they protest! .. I am starting to believe the anti-Christ is already with us..
I'd like some relevant info. on the dajjal because I am not liking this world I find myself in..

George Soros rears his ugly head here again behind that martial law

**Abz2000** · 12-20-2011

lol, i remember when the spokesman told the reporter: everyone will have to undergo military training at some point between the ages of X and Y",
the reporter asked: "is it compulsory?"
the spokesman replies: no it's not compulsory, it's errr, required".

**جوري** · 12-20-2011

I love that use of semantics I ought to take a course in deceptive speech sometimes.. During my grad school I had to master many things outside of medicine including fixing my pathfinder, rotating tires and changing batteries jolting it every other day, fixing the alternator and pulleys .. I don't know why I didn't have enough foresight to take a course in mastering political BS it would have served me well in lieu of passively having my blood boil on daily basis..a cooking course would have been helpful too

**Ramadan90** · 03-04-2012

Originally Posted by aadil77

We can move to any part of this earth we like, no one owns USA or UK or other western countries - not you or your govts. And its true - nearly every muslim country is a mess and we blame no one but ourselves, its because we abondoned our faith. It has nothing to do with 'have our laws not brought prosperity', its about practicing those laws, look back at the islamic khalifate period - there was no nation on earth more prosperous than the islamic empire, it was due to us sticking to our god's command, as soon as we abondoned the command of Allah, Allah abondoned us.

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**CosmicPathos** · 03-04-2012

OP, memorize this mnemonic for cranial nerves, I`d leave your Western country

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**جوري** · 03-04-2012

Originally Posted by CosmicPathos

OP, memorize this mnemonic for cranial nerves, I`d leave your Western country

Old Oprah Occasionally Trots Triumphantly About, Farting Velveeta Globs, Vaunting Accolades Hysterically

that's new.. I am more familiar with the other one.. you know o o o to touch
etc... this one kicks it up a better notch..

**Amigo** · 03-09-2012

Originally Posted by aadil77

We can move to any part of this earth we like, no one owns USA or UK or other western countries - not you or your govts.

Originally Posted by CosmicPathos

this is not "YOUR" country. Neither your ancestors nor your government bought these lands. These are the common inheritance of human species.

Could we say the same regarding Muslim countries?

**جوري** · 03-09-2012

Originally Posted by Amigo

Could we say the same regarding Muslim countries?

the mere fact that practically every so-called Muslim country is defiled and invaded by your troops already so says! Pay attention no one enjoys 2nd rate rehetoric!

Best,

**CosmicPathos** · 03-10-2012

Originally Posted by Amigo

Could we say the same regarding Muslim countries?

you could, Islam allows dhimmis to live in peace in Muslim lands.

**Amigo** · 03-10-2012

Originally Posted by CosmicPathos

you could, Islam allows dhimmis to live in peace in Muslim lands.

hmmm... Muslim lands...dhimmis ...

**GuestFellow** · 03-10-2012

Originally Posted by Amigo

Could we say the same regarding Muslim countries?

Yes, but they are restrictions. Like non-Muslims are not allowed to drink alcohol or advocate/preach a different religion in public.

**White Rose** · 03-11-2012

Originally Posted by Yanal

Some Muslims are only Muslims by name(may Allaah guide them,insha'Allaah) and care about their childrens studies and how important it is to raise them in a Western Country . Some are blinded by the few advantages and don't think about the disadvantages which are many.

So true

. And in some so called Muslim countries, they encourage you to follow western ideas, dress code and allow corrupted transactions to occur.

**Aprender** · 03-12-2012

Originally Posted by Tragic Typos

Like non-Muslims are not allowed to drink alcohol

Oh but they do. They bring their own booze. There's a non-Muslim lady I know who moved to Saudi Arabia and they have Christmas parties out there too. I don't think it's as bad and restrictive as people like to make it seem.

**Santoku** · 03-15-2012

Originally Posted by ßlµêßêll

that's new.. I am more familiar with the other one.. you know o o o to touch
etc... this one kicks it up a better notch..

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**yasirslm** · 06-08-2012

Well I have live in a country where human rights are zero, Human life have no worth ..People kill other People and Police watches the happening without taking any action...Police stations are DUMP, you can't got to police station for filing any complaint as police people are corrupt and demands for money...Political persons have major influence due to their sources and they are the main cause of all violations...Prices of all things are soOOOO high that a common man can't buy them...There is Corruption in every Government sector even to build your own home you will have to pay money for passing of home map other than Government fee. If you will pay corrupt money you will get objection on you home map.....

There are Big Crime gangs which have direct connection with Political persons and no one can't do anything if they commit crime due to their approach.

having said above there a so many thing I can't explain here and keeping in view all these I don't want my children's to grow in such environment so I am planning to move to a western country..

Peace!!!

**~ Sabr ~** · 06-08-2012

Originally Posted by yasirslm

Well I have live in a country where

Pakistan...?

**Snowflake** · 06-08-2012

I want to move out of the western country I'm living in. Just yesterday I asked my teenage son how he felt about moving to a rural Pakistan (well Saudi won't have us). He said it was fine as long as we didn't live in a hut

Wonder what gave him that idea. :S

Pakistani Village Life - A bit too arid for me personally. But love the simplicity