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How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

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    How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

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    I am currently a Catholic who is considering reverting to Islam. I do not leave school until 2014 though. How would I do my prayers? The school would never allow a person who is not a Catholic to pray to their god.
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?


    If you have no choice then you can put Dhuhr (noon prayer) and Asr (afternoon prayer) together. Fajr you can do before you go to school but it depends on where you live. And I'm sure you'll be home for Maghrib and Isha
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    sl 1 - How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?
    If you have no choice then you can put Dhuhr (noon prayer) and Asr (afternoon prayer) together. Fajr you can do before you go to school but it depends on where you live. And I'm sure you'll be home for Maghrib and Isha shade 1 - How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?
    This is only for the traveller and no one else.

    format_quote Originally Posted by CuriousIncident View Post
    I am currently a Catholic who is considering reverting to Islam. I do not leave school until 2014 though. How would I do my prayers? The school would never allow a person who is not a Catholic to pray to their god.
    Is there no way you can quit the school?
    How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    format_quote Originally Posted by CuriousIncident View Post
    I am currently a Catholic who is considering reverting to Islam. I do not leave school until 2014 though. How would I do my prayers? The school would never allow a person who is not a Catholic to pray to their god.
    Do you have any quiet rooms like a maintenance room in the school or a mosque outside where you go and offer prayers ?
    How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    You could go into an empty room, but if someone saw you, you will be asked what you are doing. You will then have no choice but to tell them.

    So you need to decide on whether you are in a good position with the right support to get you through what might be a difficult period in announcing that you are reverting to Islam.

    My Neighbours are Mormon's, which are strict Christians, and his wife reverted to Islam a few months back, She did come and talk to us many times and has now got good links with local sisters and the right help and support. I think it's important to have that support otherwise it can be quite difficult.
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    Maybe you can learn to pray sitting so its less obvious what your doing? but ask someone if your allowed to do this.
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    If you have no choice then you can put Dhuhr (noon prayer) and Asr (afternoon prayer) together. Fajr you can do before you go to school but it depends on where you live. And I'm sure you'll be home for Maghrib and Isha
    I know you are trying to help, but we have to be careful before giving an answer - in fact this is a fatwa... As for what is known, the joining is for the traveller.



    format_quote Originally Posted by CuriousIncident View Post
    I am currently a Catholic who is considering reverting to Islam. I do not leave school until 2014 though. How would I do my prayers? The school would never allow a person who is not a Catholic to pray to their god.
    Hmm.. it sounds like a really tough situation. Doesn't your break time coincide with the prayers? If it does you can maybe pray in that time... the other option is the see if you can find a different school to go to...
    Or, which country do you live in? If you live in UK, the school may be obliged to allow you to pray...If so, you can threaten the school with this [im not saying physically arbitrate to the courts, I am just saying you can just threaten them so they allow you to pray]
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    [QUOTE=Abu.Yusuf;1504781]I know you are trying to help, but we have to be careful before giving an answer - in fact this is a fatwa... As for what is known, the joining is for the traveller.

    My break time does not coincide with the prayers. My parents wouldn't allow me to go to another school just because of my religion. I live in Australia
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    format_quote Originally Posted by CuriousIncident View Post
    My break time does not coincide with the prayers. My parents wouldn't allow me to go to another school just because of my religion. I live in Australia
    How old are you? Could you not go into an empty classroom/closet and pray?
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?




    did not read the whole thread . Hope I m not repeating .

    don't delay declaring the Shahada ( testimony of faith ) because of this problem - if you are sure that Islam is the Truth .

    God Willing , offering salat will be easy for u .

    Don't know how but it will - I m sure

    u will be in our dua / prayer and u also must ask God to help u .

    Dont worry about this too much now.
    How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    Can you ask the school for an accommodation? While they do not have to, they may be willing.
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    What a tricky situation
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    A few people have mentioned that the joining of the prayers is only for the traveller.... I do not remember the proof (please don't pounce on me!!), but I was told that you can join the prayers when it is unavoidable. You just cannot delay Fajr and Asr because this is the time when the angels change over and carry your deeds to Allah.

    As for praying in school, you could find an empty classroom. When I was in college, there were a number of small audition rooms down in the drama corridor that not many people went to (and locked from the inside - added bonus). Does your school have anything like this?

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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    Allah is the same God followed by the Catholics/Christians and Jews. So in truth, you are not praying to a different God. It is good to pray on time but there is leniency if you are unable to pray at the exact time of the prayer, as long as you do it as soon as possible. I don't remember the exact limits of how long you can wait before praying or if you can pray them earlier if more convenient. I am very new to Islam myself.

    If your lunch or spare period in the early afternoon works, just find a quiet corner and do your prayer. If you are 'caught' just say you are praying to God. Allah is the Arabic word for God basically. Or, you can just talk to your teacher/principal and tell them you are a muslim and would like to have 10 minutes to pray in the early afternoon and a place to do it. They may allow it, simply because you asked. If not maybe they will expel you and you can go to a public school instead or one more tolerant to Muslims.

    You can also check the Board of Education website/rules for Catholic schools in Australia in regards to non Catholic students...I am from Canada and I did go to Catholic school from kindergarden to grade 8, no Muslims there but there were Jewish students and their holidays etc were honored. (basically they were excused to take different days off and from participating in the Catholic rituals in school). This was quite some time ago to.
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    Salaam,

    Can members start presenting evidence please. Evidence from Islamic scholars.
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Who Am I? View Post
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    No, please stay. We're all learning here, that's what we're all here for. So don't exit the thread, but stay, read, lurk if needs be, and learn.
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Who Am I? View Post
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    Sorry, I hope my post did not make you feel awkward/offended. My post was directed to everyone.
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    Re: How would I do my five daily prayers if I go to a Catholic school?

    @ O.P. - well, how sure can you be? in usa, schools arent allowed to be completely for one religion so that all students have equal opportunities to follow whatever they want.
    so if the same rule applies in australia, then they cant deny letting you pray. Ask some of your kinder teachers if they would let you go into a seperate room (like chem lab, bio lab, etc.) and the end of class. im sure there are at least one or two lazy teachers in your school who dont teach during the whole class time.
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