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    Need the truth.What's right and what's wrong? (Muslims Only) (OP)


    Hello.
    I was born in a muslim family,they have a strong belief in God.I once had a strong belief,used to pray and such. I don't know why i had a strong belief,maybe i was a kid and believed everything easily,but i once saw 'Allah' written in the sky in clouds form. I still think to this day i was just imagining things,but i know that's the not true because apparently i was out that time,and many people were like taking pictures of it. Then i stopped praying,Mainly because I'm a lazy person.( was like 10 around that time.)2 or 3 years ago i started thinking 'what if' there's no God. I don't really know why i started thinking like that,but just so it happen. As a year passed by,then i questioned that if the muslims are indeed wrong? Maybe there's no God at all? What if the religions are just a fairy tale made by people? What if there's no heaven or hell? What if there's no afterlife and once you die,it's the end of everything.It is said that God is nice,but explain the suffering in this world like murder and rape. I know some people are going to say this life is a test. But my point is does God enjoy these things? If he was kind He wouldn't let have let these things happen now would He?During this time,i was also in the phase of depression. Last year later had a panic attack while masturbating and my anxiety started since then. Some of that anxiety is about if Islam is true or not,also some other things. Which made me questioned more about my religion. So i guess I'm a Atheist/Agnostic at the moment. I would wish to believe there's a God and an afterlife but it's hard to believe so. That's enough of the back story about me.

    Now my problems with Islam which i would like to discuss.
    First thing first,How do you Muslims know that your religion is the correct one? They are many religions out there,and they think they are right and such. Some Muslims are going to say that Islam is the correct one and Quran is a miracle. Allah send signs,the scientific evidence and etc. Anyone would research their religion and find that their religion is correct. According to what i read on the internet,some atheists are saying that these scientific evidence was long discovered before islam by the greeks.

    It's unfair for non-muslims to be born in a non-muslim family. I already know some people are going to say that Allah sends them signs about Quran in some way. But the fact ismsome are going to ignore it as they are already brainwashed from their family that their current religion is correct. Why would they even give a chance to islam when they are already brainwashed? Or some people might not even heard about Quran in their entire life. One of the points why i think Quran is man-made.( No offence to you muslims.)

    Even believing in Angels and the devils is harder. Devil whispers in our ears to make us do bad deeds? Really?


    Secondly, the Adam and Eve story. So the world was created because Adam ate the forbidden apple.......Seriously? No matter how you look at it,it sounds like a some fairy tale story similar to Santa Claus or unocrns,of course to us non-believers...Some people are going to bring up the arguement that where did we humans come from? To Muslims it's Adam and Eve. But as my counter-arguement,one word 'Evolution'. Atleast that's what atheists believe. Even the apes and humans DNA are 98% the same. Science has proven that we can't have come from Adam and Eve. A while ago i even read an article of old skeletons skull structure being the same as apes. Don't tell me it's false or i will facepalm myself so hard my nose breaks. Even some scientists believe that's there's a 50% chance there's no God,if you research into the creation of universe,there's a chance that world was made by a mere coincidence.

    Thirdly,the concept of hell. This one is disturbing me alot. So half of the population was made to be roasted in hell? Eternal hell for not being a Muslim? Then maybe God should have us more proofs if He truly loved us,that is if He exists. According to some comments i read here,It's offensive to God for not believing him with all the clear proofs send. Well,if He was all-loving he wouldn't want people to burn in hell and that too eternally. In daily life If a person was to get burned on anywhere on the part of his body,he would be in pain. He can't survive a day without the pain. But eternal hell? A person would go insane. No normal unbeliever deserves that kind of punishment. But maybe those people who liked murdering and raping people deserve it. But normal unbelievers? No. But this contradicts the nature of God. It is said according to you Muslims,that he is the most merciful and kind. But that doesn't seem like that to me. Cause if he was he wouldn't make half of the population JUST to burn in hell. And Muslims are not in majority in the world.

    A square circle is impossible because it contradicts it's very nature. A square has four sides,a circle has infinite. God is impossible because He contradicts His very nature. God is described as fair and just,but creates infinite punishment for finite sins. This is a pretty and vengeful God. God is described as infinitely loving,but he allows millionns of children to starve every day. He has the power to stop it,but He does nothing. Again life is a test? Really? So this all is a game to Him and watch us suffer as His entertainment?

    Another question,if there's an atheist who died at the age of 17.(My friend is at her dying bed)Would she burn in hell? She could have reverted to Islam.

    I listened to many Dr. Zakir Naik lectures and some part of me get convinced. But after few days my mind returns to the atheist/agnostic mind set.

    Another question, after this world ends,another world would emerge,and process will continue with new people....this process will keep on repeating...this doesn't make sense.

    I said it before and i will say it again, I wish to believe there's a God but i find it hard to believe. But I'm hoping someone can convince me and show me the truth.

    Will update thread if anything new comes to my mind.
    Thanks.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by NjmYqlb View Post

    I think you are referring to my post in the other thread. Yes, that is what i have learned, good deeds of any kind will have its rewards but only those done to please God will be rewarded by Him on judgement day.


    The soul has a longing for God, but the soul can be corrupted and the longing silenced. But seriously, are there atheists that haven't heard of God at all in this age? As you might have read in my post on the other thread, for those who never got any message of God from any source, God willing, as stated in Surah Ash-Shams, the conscience/soul will be the final 'failsafe' hope to gain God's mercy.



    I used to think like this as well, that it isn't logical. After many years of acquiring knowledge, this is how i understand my place in the scheme of things. I belong to God. As a slave to God he is free to do with me whatever he pleases. Whatever is sent my way, like it or not, I will have to take it. The good, I must thank Him, the bad, I must pray to Him for relief from it. It is due to His mercy that he has blessed me with so many good things in this life, Alhamdulillah. I understand in a lot of literature and media, God is portrayed as being unconditionally forgiving, merciful and loving to all mankind. This may be true at some point of everyone's life but God will also hate, curse and declare war on some people because of what they do or don't do. Allah's name include Al-Muntaqim (The Avenger/Punisher), Al-Mudhill (The Humiliator), Ad-Darr (The Distressor, The Harmer, The Afflictor). So we must beware of His wrath. He is God, the Almighty, He owns us all. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, all that matters is what He thinks of us on judgement day. He will do whatever He wants whenever He wants. We cannot demand anything of Him, we can only request, so beware.


    If you look at the world from another perspective, this planet is a very nice gift from God. It has everything we need to live on it, it is perfect for mankind. Our senses are a gift beyond any value. What would you give and pay to restore your sight should you lose it? God has only given good things to us. So why is there suffering? The suffering are all man made. Even natural disasters are caused by the activities of mankind but that will be even more difficult to explain in here. So all good things come from God, and what have a lot of people done? They thank/worship something/someone else instead, or completely ignore Him, while blaming everything that is wrong on Him. I must say I find it unjust.


    God willing, He will be the Most Merciful to those who acknowledge they are His servants while willingly surrender to His will and would be the Ultimate Punisher and Avenger to those who never repented having wronged Him and His creations.


    Allah and His messenger knows best.
    And what about agnostics who are not sure of existence of God? They might go like 'I'm going to feed the poor,and if there's a God I'm doing it for you.'
    As for eternal punishment,how will a person survive that? He would go crazy. They would be no source of entertainment.

    Nice article. Yeah I'm pretty sure all most all atheists knows about the existence of God. And what will that final test be for the people who never heard of Islam? Is it mentioned in the Quran?

    Yes we belong to God,but I'm still not getting a straightforward answer that how it's logical for 1.5 billion Muslims only too go to heaven. He may have blessed us with alot of things in this life which I'm thankful,but I'm concerned how only minority of people will go to heaven and majority hell.
    As for natural disasters,they are the anger of God right?
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    Re: Need the truth.What's right and what's wrong? (Muslims Only)

    Few more questions,
    It is said that Night is made for sleep.
    But in countries like Netherlands,night lasts long. About 3 days. So night can't be made for sleep for 3 days straight right?

    And countries like Japan and china,why wasn't a prophet in the past send to them? There's hardly any Abrahamic believers there.
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    [QUOTE=Gintoki;1577608]And what about agnostics who are not sure of existence of God? They might go like 'I'm going to feed the poor,and if there's a God I'm doing it for you.'
    God willing, He would, but i wouldn't know for certain. His Mercy overcomes His Wrath


    [QUOTE=Gintoki;1577608]As for eternal punishment,how will a person survive that? He would go crazy.
    The person would survive because there would be no more deaths, every soul tastes death once. Eternal punishment for the sinful soul is the price for not submitting to God the Almighty. Yes there would be a lot of screaming involved but most screaming will be due to regrets. When we are resurrected on judgement day, we are most probably going to be in another dimension. This is due to the prophet mentioning the white stuff he encountered on a level of the sky he passed by on the way up during the night journey, it is going to wash over the earth and we will be remade. That and your query about the new Earth, seems to point to a likely trans dimensional crossing of the Earth. Then, after Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) praises god on the vast plains (Masyhar), the throne of god will descend and everyone will receive their book of deeds where everyone can see everything that they have done. How can you see the entirety of your life on Earth? I'll try to explain a bit more and this is the super summary of a books worth of explanation.


    Hypothetically a 1 dimension being can see only length or width or depth seperately. So it can only see a dot or a line. For it to understand a 2 dimensional shape, a square for example, it has to move through a second dimension across the square and see that the line it saw went as deep as its length. Only after going through the entire square it can understand that in 2 dimensions it is a square, while a 2nd dimensional being readily see it as a square.
    Now a 2nd dimensional being, can see only 2 dimensional shapes, for it to understand a 3 dimensional object, say a ball, it has to go through the 3rd dimension through the ball, it will see a dot that grows into a circle and shrinks back to a dot. Only after going through the ball can it understand it is a ball shape in 3 dimensional, while a 3rd dimensional being readily see it as a ball.
    So a being in a higher dimension will always see the entirety of the characteristics of things in the dimensions below it. We are a 3rd dimensional being, going through a fourth dimension. Only after we go through our entire lives will we know what our life actually is. Then, when we go to a higher dimension, on judgement day, we will see our entire life in all its details with clarity, a dimension above time as we know it. Perhaps we might understand the concept of time better then.
    I hope you can follow my explanation above. So God being up and above all dimensions can see clearly every soul and its characteristics. He will know which ones rightly belong in hell for eternity. There will be no respite for those souls. At that time, when all of us see everyones soul with clarity, we will understand why each soul belong where they are sent to, even those in hell for eternity. That is why the screams are of regret rather than of pain.


    format_quote Originally Posted by Gintoki View Post
    And what will that final test be for the people who never heard of Islam? Is it mentioned in the Quran?
    Final test? You mean final 'fail-safe'? I'm not sure what you mean actually. I only know that God says he wouldn't punish until one receives His message, and those who purify their souls, follow conscience will succeed, while those who corrupt their souls, go against their conscience will fail. God also says that He will do justice to each and every one of His creation. So for one who never receives God message, God would not hold him/her responsible for sins against Him but sins between the person and God's other creations would be dealt justly, that is where the conscience will protect the person from doing unjust harm to God's other creations and thereby protect the person from getting punished for it.


    format_quote Originally Posted by Gintoki View Post
    Yes we belong to God,but I'm still not getting a straightforward answer that how it's logical for 1.5 billion Muslims only too go to heaven. He may have blessed us with alot of things in this life which I'm thankful,but I'm concerned how only minority of people will go to heaven and majority hell.
    I too couldn't give you a 100% factual, logical answer to your assumption that the majority is hell bound. As far as i am concerned, God knows best. However, I do believe mankind has been on this Earth much longer than we know. There are reports of advanced artifacts carbon dated tens of thousands of years old. My point is we don't know how many people have lived on this Earth throughout its history. People of the previous Ummahs were punished swiftly when they forsake God, thus their numbers (those who forsake God) were controlled. Logically that would mean more people who worships God on Earth at any one time during previous Ummahs. The Ummah of Muhammad (peace be upon him) are given respite from immediate punishment, thus allowing the spread of people who forsake God. So the majority of people before us might be going to heaven for all we know. We live in the end times now, where in a lot of cases 'appearance' and 'reality' are opposite to each other. There are people out there today who make it their mission in life to lead people astray so that is why there are so many that don't want to believe or follow God's commandments. The rewards for getting your faith right will also be higher in this age of deception. There are many things we wouldn't know until we enter the other dimension but i would advice you, save yourself. God is the one who guides to the straight path or leads one astray. So ask straight from him for guidance and be patient.


    format_quote Originally Posted by Gintoki View Post
    As for natural disasters,they are the anger of God right?
    Yes that is the bottom line, but every human activity involving earth and nature has an effect. One possible instance, as explained by a russian scientist, the Fukushima earthquake, was caused by the nuclear reactors using European uranium instead of Russian uranium, because Putin closed down the Russian Uranium mines, this produced more ionized steam than the reactors were designed to hold. The ionized steam had to be released into the air thereby ionizing the air between the clouds and the bedrock creating an electrical flow from the clouds to the ground. Since the rock contained a lot of quartz, which vibrates when theres electric current passing through, this made the rock easier to move, thereby causing the trigger to the earthquake. I am no geologist but that explanation sounds plausible to me.


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    Oh i understand.

    format_quote Originally Posted by NjmYqlb View Post
    The person would survive because there would be no more deaths, every soul tastes death once. Eternal punishment for the sinful soul is the price for not submitting to God the Almighty. Yes there would be a lot of screaming involved but most screaming will be due to regrets.
    The person may be able to survive,but a person can't endure eternal torture. Like i said he/she would go crazy and wished he/she never existed.Why would God punish his creation for eternity if He loves them? For defying the Lord is great offensive in the view of Allah,but eternal suffering is too much.

    format_quote Originally Posted by NjmYqlb View Post
    Yes that is the bottom line, but every human activity involving earth and nature has an effect. One possible instance, as explained by a russian scientist, the Fukushima earthquake, was caused by the nuclear reactors using European uranium instead of Russian uranium, because Putin closed down the Russian Uranium mines, this produced more ionized steam than the reactors were designed to hold. The ionized steam had to be released into the air thereby ionizing the air between the clouds and the bedrock creating an electrical flow from the clouds to the ground. Since the rock contained a lot of quartz, which vibrates when theres electric current passing through, this made the rock easier to move, thereby causing the trigger to the earthquake. I am no geologist but that explanation sounds plausible to me.
    So where's the link to God's anger? Sound's like it happen on it's own.
    In 2011 Japan had a big earthquake,if God was angry that why they aren't worshiping Him in that country,why Didn't he send any messengers in the past? There's hardly any Abrahamic believers there.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by NjmYqlb View Post
    Yes that is the bottom line, but every human activity involving earth and nature has an effect. One possible instance, as explained by a russian scientist, the Fukushima earthquake, was caused by the nuclear reactors using European uranium instead of Russian uranium, because Putin closed down the Russian Uranium mines, this produced more ionized steam than the reactors were designed to hold. The ionized steam had to be released into the air thereby ionizing the air between the clouds and the bedrock creating an electrical flow from the clouds to the ground. Since the rock contained a lot of quartz, which vibrates when theres electric current passing through, this made the rock easier to move, thereby causing the trigger to the earthquake. I am no geologist but that explanation sounds plausible to me.
    Sorry if off topic but I wonder haven´t that Russian scientist ever heard about normal moving of continental plates? On that area of the earth it happens daily. That was the most strange explanation to the eartquakes I ever have read.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post
    Sorry if off topic but I wonder haven´t that Russian scientist ever heard about normal moving of continental plates? On that area of the earth it happens daily. That was the most strange explanation to the eartquakes I ever have read.

    Sometimes continental plates get stuck when the surface sliding across each other isn't smooth, causing tension, when the cause of tension becomes weak, the plates violently snaps, causing earthquakes. I assume the scientist meant the vibrations cause the rock that caused the tension to become weak.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by NjmYqlb View Post
    Sometimes continental plates get stuck when the surface sliding across each other isn't smooth, causing tension, when the cause of tension becomes weak, the plates violently snaps, causing earthquakes. I assume the scientist meant the vibrations cause the rock that caused the tension to become weak.
    What's the connection with God's anger?
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    WHY do earthquakes occur?
    A student of geology will say they are a result of a sudden release of energy in the Earth’s crust that creates seismic waves. That’s the process of how earthquakes occur, but not an answer to why earthquakes occur.




    A better phrased question will be: Who causes earthquakes to occur and why? Allah says in the Qur’an:


    Say: ‘He has power to send torment on you from above or from under your feet, or to cover you with confusion in party strife, and make you to taste the violence of one another.’” (Qur’an, 6:65)


    Allah sends earthquakes as a punishment for some because of their sins and as a reminder or warning for others to repent and mend their ways. Allah says in the Qur’an:


    And We sent not the signs except to warn…” [Qur’an, 17:59]
    Just as Allah sends down blessings for His creation in the form of rain, good cultivation and abundance of sustenance, He also sends down warnings and punishments in the form of earthquakes and tsunamis. Allah says:


    And whatever of misfortune befalls you, it is because of what your hands have earned. And He pardons much.” [Qur’an, 42:30]


    The above verse is of particular importance. It shows that whatever calamity that strikes us is a result of our wrong deeds. Moreover, Allah pardons a lot. Meaning, the punishment doesn’t come except when people have crossed all limits. The place where a calamity strikes may have both good and bad people. When sins rise in a community and a punishment is sent down, it also affects the good people. While that calamity is a punishment for the sinners, it becomes a source of purification or a reminder for the good doers. The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to seek refuge with Allah from His torment and punishment.


    Increase in the frequency of earthquakes is also a sign of the Day of Judgment. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, “The Hour (Last Day) will not be established until (religious) knowledge will be taken away (by the death of religious learned men), earthquakes will be very frequent, time will pass quickly, afflictions will appear, murders will increase and money will overflow amongst you.” (Al-Bukhari, 2/17 no. 146)


    The prophecy of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) seems ever approaching. Time is passing by quickly, though the day still has 24 hours. The religiously learned are fewer than the past and crime rate has increased multifold.


    Allah says in the Qur’an:


    Evil has appeared on land and sea because of what the hands of men have earned, that He (Allah) may make them taste a part of that which they have done, in order that they may return.” [Qur’an, 30:41]


    The calamities are not a full recompense, but only a part for what man does. Were we to be punished for all that we do, there would be no creature living on earth.


    And if Allah were to punish men for that which they earned, He would not leave a moving (living) creature on the surface of the earth; but He gives them respite to an appointed term, and when their term comes, then verily, Allah is Ever All-Seer of His slaves.” [Qur’an, 35:45]


    The purpose of calamities is, as mentioned in the verse quoted earlier, “…in order that they may return.” They are a lesson for us to return to the straight path and to return to the obedience of God. Disasters are a lesson for us to repent to Allah for our sins and reform ourselves. Allah has promised reward and blessings in this life and the hereafter for those who truly turn to Him in repentance.



    …Except those who repent and believe (in Islamic Monotheism), and do righteous deeds; for those, Allah will change their sins into good deeds, and Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Qur’an, 25:70]


    And if the people of the towns had believed and had the Taqwa (piety), certainly, We should have opened for them blessings from the heaven and the earth, but they belied (the Messengers). So We took them (with punishment) for what they used to earn (polytheism and crimes).” [Qur’an, 7:96]


    Refuting atheistic belief


    It is unfortunate that some Muslims have also started to speak like atheists. Scoffing when it is told that earthquakes are because of sins and arguing that it is no more than a natural geological activity. First of all atheists have no ground for their assertion because they don’t believe God exists which is the biggest lie ever uttered. It is a direct rejection despite the lucid signs in form of the perfect creation and faultless system created by God.


    Their argument about earthquakes being the result of natural geological activity holds no more ground than a claim that this published article on paper or website is a result from the functioning of a machine (printer or computer) without any effort of a human brain behind it that has made it make sense.


    Writing and getting it printed is much simpler an activity than the complex and perfect system of this universe that include earthquakes. It is blasphemy to claim that there’s no Almighty Creator controlling and overseeing what is happening in the world.


    "By the age, man is indeed at loss, except those who have faith and do good works and (join together) in the mutual teaching of truth, and of patience and perseverance." [Quran103 .1,2,3]


    Don't count the days, make the days count.
    What should be a Muslim's attitude and response on earthquakes?

    A Muslim should take earthquakes and other such signs as admonitions from Allah and hasten to repent, remember Allah and ask forgiveness from Him, as the Messenger of Allah (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said when there was an eclipse: "If you see anything like that, hasten to remember Him, call on Him and seek His forgiveness." [Saheeh al-Bukharee vol: 2, no: 30 and Saheeh Muslim vol: 2, no: 628] "And whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty). And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine. And whosoever puts his trust in Allah, then He will suffice him." [Soorah at-Talaaq (65): 2-3]

    It is also recommended to show compassion to the poor, give charity because the Messenger of Allah (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said: "Show mercy, (and) you will be shown mercy." [Musnad Ahmad, vol: 2, no: 165] and: "Those who are merciful will be shown mercy by the Most Merciful. Have mercy on those who are on earth, and the One Who is in heaven will show mercy to you." [Abu Dawood 13/285), at-Tirmidhee 6/43] He (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) also said: "Whoever does not show mercy will not be shown mercy." [Saheeh al-Bukharee 5/75 and Muslim 4/1809]

    One of the things, which will keep people safe from such calamities, is to reduce evil deed, apply the Sharee'ah laws, enjoin good and forbid evil: "The believers, men and women, are Awliyaa (friends) of one another; they enjoin al-Maroof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do), and forbid (people) from al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islam forbids); they perform As-Salaat and give the Zakaat, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have His Mercy on them. Surely, Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise" [Soorah at-Tawbah (9): 71]

    Dhulm (Oppression), false-pride and openly committing evil will never go unpunished. One will have to pay in this world and if not then the punishment in the Hereafter is much more severe… So, take heed!!

    Preserve what we have from the blessings of Allah for wrongdoing removes blessings; rather it changes it to a curse.

    Be warned of an evil end, for Allah gives us a chance but is not neglectful.
    What has happened to the previous nations might befall us….


    Fortunate person is he who learns from the calamity of others
    and the miserable one is he by whom these calamities pass while he takes no lesson from them…


    "None feels secure from the Plan of Allah except the people who are the losers."
    [Soorah al-Araaf (7): 97-99]

    We Ask Allah forgiveness and seek his Mercy and Protection. We ask forgiveness for the dead and Mercy for the living to endure the hardships, to bear the loss and above all to reflect and take a lesson. Aameen.

    http://www.khilafatworld.com/2012/03...kes-occur.html

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    Salam alaykum

    Allah of course is behind of everything. We have no idea if earthquakes is part of some of His bigger plans as we humans haven´t knowledge of His plans. But of my mind it is just mistake to see that everything what might cause harm to people by some kind of disastres would be some kind of puninshment or anger.

    We can say that what happened in Fukushima was punishment to Japans because most of them are not muslims. We can say that earthquakes in Iran was punishment. We can say that and that without deep knowledge.

    To me personally they are just natural happenings, moving of plates or vulcano activities. They all have some bigger meaning - not everytimes some mean of anger or punishment.

    People are funny of my mind - they lost so much energy to find meanings to everything . which they haven´t any possibility to understand.

    But Allah also gave us kind of nature of mind - asking, investigative and curious.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post
    Allah of course is behind of everything. We have no idea if earthquakes is part of some of His bigger plans as we humans haven´t knowledge of His plans. But of my mind it is just mistake to see that everything what might cause harm to people by some kind of disastres would be some kind of puninshment or anger.

    We can say that what happened in Fukushima was punishment to Japans because most of them are not muslims. We can say that earthquakes in Iran was punishment. We can say that and that without deep knowledge.

    To me personally they are just natural happenings, moving of plates or vulcano activities. They all have some bigger meaning - not everytimes some mean of anger or punishment.

    People are funny of my mind - they lost so much energy to find meanings to everything . which they haven´t any possibility to understand.

    But Allah also gave us kind of nature of mind - asking, investigative and curious.
    As you said Most of the Japanese people are non-Muslims,and they are like only 1% Muslims in Japan. So why didn't Allah Send messengers in the past to Japan?
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    Salam alaykum

    Why he didn´t send any to Finland?

    Or did He but we didn´t noticed?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Gintoki View Post
    As you said Most of the Japanese people are non-Muslims,and they are like only 1% Muslims in Japan. So why didn't Allah Send messengers in the past to Japan?
    listen instead of asking these questions why dont you first establish if you believe in Allah to begin with. then establish if you believe wether or not Muhammad saws is his messenger.

    and our prophet wqs sent for all of mankind. nit just a country.

    in the past allah sent prophets everywhere sometimes more then one for a people
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    Salam alaykum

    Allah sends invitation to people He has choosen. Why to just some and some others feels they haven´t got any invitation? Why He sended it to me?

    I have no idea. It just was Mercy to me.

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    brilliant answer sister harb

    we cannot pretend to know everything. thats what shaytan tried to do


    allah has indeed been merciful to us. and he guides whom he wills

    if we didnt believe that we wouldnt be muslims. if that wasnt a fact there would be no hell

    we need to stop trying to answer everything and spend more time accepting. dhikr and durood helps that. and to accept is to embrace a path towards jannah inshallah

    allah knows best

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    format_quote Originally Posted by sister harb View Post
    Salam alaykum

    Why he didn´t send any to Finland?

    Or did He but we didn´t noticed?
    wa alaikum assalam

    Question

    what was happening in other parts of the world at the time of Prophet e.g. present day South Africa, Fiji etc,


    Answer


    All perfect praise be to Allaah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad icon1 2 - Need the truth.What's right and what's wrong? (Muslims Only), is His slave and Messenger.

    We are not aware of the condition of the nations in these countries when the Prophet icon1 2 - Need the truth.What's right and what's wrong? (Muslims Only) was commissioned as a Prophet. Rather, we know from the texts of the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah (tradition) of the Prophet icon1 2 - Need the truth.What's right and what's wrong? (Muslims Only) that there has been no nation except that a warner has been sent to it, and no community except that they had a guide.
    Allaah The Almighty Says (what means):
    • {Indeed, We have sent you with the truth as a bringer of good tidings and a warner. And there was no nation but that there had passed within it a warner.} [Quran 35:24]
    • {and for every people is a guide.} [Quran 13:7]
    The nation to which no Prophet has been sent is not lacking guidance and warning from the followers of Prophets who establish the evidence of the message of Allaah The Almighty upon them. Indeed, Allaah The Almighty will not hold someone accountable and He does not punish anyone except after this evidence has been established against him.
    Allaah The Almighty Says (what means): {And Allaah would not let a people stray after He has guided them until He makes clear to them what they should avoid. Indeed, Allaah is Knowing of all things.} [Quran 9:115]
    Ibn Katheer icon6 1 - Need the truth.What's right and what's wrong? (Muslims Only) said (while interpreting the above verse), "Allaah says about Himself and His just ruling that He does not lead people astray after the message has been sent to them, until the evidence has been established against them, as Allaah Says (what means): {And as for Thamud, We guided them, but they preferred blindness over guidance.} [Quran 41:17]"
    Thus, the person whom the message does not reach, or it reaches him but there is a reason that prevents him from adhering to it, is excused. This is reported in the Hadeeth:
    “Four types of people will be tested on the Day of Resurrection: a deaf man who cannot hear anything, an insane man, a senile elderly person, and a person who died during the Fatrah (a period of time when no Messenger was sent to people).
    The deaf man will say: “O Allaah, Islam came while I could not hear anything!” The insane man will say: “O Allaah, Islam came while the boys used to throw the excrement of animals on me!” The senile elderly man will say: “O Allaah, Islam came while I could understand nothing”. And the man who died during the Fatrah will say: “O Allaah, I witnessed no Messenger from You”. Then Allaah will take a pledge from them to obey Him. Then He will command them to enter Hell, and I swear the One in Whose Hand is my soul, if they enter it, they would find it peaceful and cool).” [Ahmad and Al-Albaani]

    http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/in...waId&Id=174533

    How can we be sure about the validity of many of the religions of today?
    The message of Islam is simply believing in One True Living Undivided GOD Almighty, and not taking any partners such as other people (like Jesus and Mary), or idols with Him. As Allah Almighty said in the Noble Quran:
    "Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).' (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"
    Even though this Noble Verse is talking directly to Jews and Christians, but it is definitely applicable to all of Mankind. This Noble Verse summarizes the whole point of Islam. Allah Almighty created all of Mankind to Worship Him, Glorify Him and Praise Him alone without partners. If an individual, whether he is a Muslim or non-Muslim does that then he/she will please the Almighty GOD.

    We know from the Prophetic traditions that over a 120,000 prophets have been sent to people at different stages in human history, to guide the peoples who settled in different lands toward the worship of Allah.

    It's reported that some prophets will come at the day of resurrection with just one or 2 followers
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    Allaah Knows best.
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    Salam alaykum

    To me just accepting the will was main step to Islam.

    Accepting that I might be not so important by my own will but by will of Allah.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim View Post
    listen instead of asking these questions why dont you first establish if you believe in Allah to begin with. then establish if you believe wether or not Muhammad saws is his messenger.

    and our prophet wqs sent for all of mankind. nit just a country.

    in the past allah sent prophets everywhere sometimes more then one for a people
    Your point is that i do blind belief? Right.
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    What you mean as blind belief?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Gintoki View Post
    Your point is that i do blind belief? Right.
    my point is you cant understand whats complex before understanding whats basic.

    i dint know how you deduced that i am impying blind belief
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