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    Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer. (OP)




    I've some questions, and I will get straight to it.

    A. I sometimes, get the impression that Islam is 'cult-like', cause some verses says to "be ruthless to kafirs, and kind and merciful to your brothers, Muslims" but there is also verses that says to be kind to those who don't attack you on deen....

    B. Should we really hate kafirs, personally, because of their religion????????

    C. Are there terms such as 'innocents' in Islam, regarding kafirs?

    D. Are we only allowed to be kind to Muslims, even if they are rude.. What about the kafirs, if they are rude, shouldn't we be the mature one?


    E. Verse 7:179 says.. Any explanation? Why would Allah punish someone, when they were created for Hell?


    I understood that, everyone is born a Muslim, with the ability to believe. But if one does not practice or excerise that ability to discern/believe in truth, one will lose it.. But this ayats makes it sound that they were born with blind hearts. etc. How is it fair?


    Would Allah punish someone for being confused? Not knowing? Not finding the truth? Not being convinced?

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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by najimuddin View Post


    Make sincere dua and dawah for everyone, including Jewish people. Mufti Ebrahim Desai explains the context of such statements of the Prophet () in the following fatwa: CLICK HERE

    An excerpt of this ruling is provided below:

    "The Muhaditheen explain that the reason why Rasulullah (
    ) said this was that the time for Rasulullah () to leave this world was close at hand and he did not desire that his Ummah imitate the Jews and Christians by making his grave also into a place of worship. The reason why he disliked the grave becoming a place of worship is that sooner or later people start worshiping the grave itself. The whole mission of Rasulullah () was to eliminate Shirk and turn people towards the oneness of Allah. How could he have approved that his grave becomes a means for people to do shirk? Therefore such stern words were used so that people refrain from coming close to Shirk."
    This forum makes me love the Prophet SAW more. SubhanAllah.

    I still have problems tho. Some verses says to be merciful to the Muslims(amongst ourselves) and harsh towards the kafirs. But there are ayats that says that to be kind to those who do not attack us on our deen.

    60:7-9 or so.

    So let me get this straight and clear, The Prophet SAW didn't curse ALL jews to come? Cause I've seen a Jew on Youtube become Muslim after dawah. so, if every Jew was cursed as I understood it, no Jew would have hope in becoming Muslim, which is a wrong thought from me, cause Allah is all-just, and He does not burden a soul with sins of another soul.

    and I feel, and feel free to correct me, that it does not befit Allah to punish the off spring of Jews for what the Jews in the past did. Please do enlighten me and correct me, brother.

    To each man their own deed.
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    In the Qur'an, the verses which commands us to fight against the non-believers are only for when they initiate hostilities. It is only permitted as a form of self-defence. Islam is a religion of mercy, so many ayats encourage peaceful co-existence whenever possible, such as 'Let there be no compulsion in religion' (2:256).
    Surat al-Kafirun is also a very good example of Islam's tolerance.

    It wouldn't make sense to be commanded to fight against all those who are not Muslim - and it also wouldn't make sense to not defend yourself when you are being attacked. Islam is a religion of balance and moderation. When possible peace and other alternatives to warfare are highly encouraged.

    As for the verses you mentioned, when read together they say exactly that, only defend yourself against those why try to drive you out of your homes - otherwise Allah loves those who are peaceful and just with others.

    InshaAllah someone more knowledgeable can provide a better explanation
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    This forum makes me love the Prophet SAW more. SubhanAllah.

    I still have problems tho. Some verses says to be merciful to the Muslims(amongst ourselves) and harsh towards the kafirs. But there are ayats that says that to be kind to those who do not attack us on our deen.

    60:7-9 or so.

    So let me get this straight and clear, The Prophet SAW didn't curse ALL jews to come? Cause I've seen a Jew on Youtube become Muslim after dawah. so, if every Jew was cursed as I understood it, no Jew would have hope in becoming Muslim, which is a wrong thought from me, cause Allah is all-just, and He does not burden a soul with sins of another soul.

    and I feel, and feel free to correct me, that it does not befit Allah to punish the off spring of Jews for what the Jews in the past did. Please do enlighten me and correct me, brother.

    To each man their own deed.
    Alhamdulillah, that’s admirable. May Allah increase this love even more. Ameen.

    Let this love guide you to understand with firm conviction that the Prophet
    was never unjust. As Sister noraina has elaborated on: Everything that he mentioned, including the Qur’an, has a context and should be understood within it.

    Your reference to 60:7-9 gives a context for what concerns you. Protecting yourself from disbelief is priority number one.

    So no, the Prophet
    did not curse all Jews to come. The statements in question were emphasizing the importance of staying away from shirk, with an illustration of how it was done by the Jews (i.e. worshiping at a Prophet's grave).
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by najimuddin View Post
    Alhamdulillah, that’s admirable. May Allah increase this love even more. Ameen.

    Let this love guide you to understand with firm conviction that the Prophet
    was never unjust. As Sister noraina has elaborated on: Everything that he mentioned, including the Qur’an, has a context and should be understood within it.

    Your reference to 60:7-9 gives a context for what concerns you. Protecting yourself from disbelief is priority number one.

    So no, the Prophet
    did not curse all Jews to come. The statements in question were emphasizing the importance of staying away from shirk, with an illustration of how it was done by the Jews (i.e. worshiping at a Prophet's grave).
    I read interfaith is haram, not that I care much about it.

    I just fear being of those who thought they were doing good while their deeds became dust...........

    I have non muslim friends, and our friendship is not based on religion, Idc about his religion, and he doesn't seem bothered/hateful towards Islam.

    I understand that we need the distance, etc. unless we become like them. I can automatically "sense" whether someone is bad or good for me..........

    Anyways, I seek refuge within Allah from ever disobeying Allah. May Allah protect us from all evil. Ameen.

    And Allah knows best.
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    Please share with me something that'd make me love the Prophet SAW more. I try my best to love him SAW...........
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post


    Please share with me something that'd make me love the Prophet SAW more. I try my best to love him SAW...........
    what do you mean by that???? you dont love him enough?? u do!

    if you want something verbal then ...maybe you already know it, but i'll try! do you know the holy PROPHET pbuh will offer his intercession for us(his ummah) on the day of judgement?. here:

    http://www.alahazrat.net/islam/40-ah...ed-prophet.php
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ramen-thelegend View Post
    what do you mean by that???? you dont love him enough?? u do!

    if you want something verbal then ...maybe you already know it, but i'll try! do you know the holy PROPHET pbuh will offer his intercession for us(his ummah) on the day of judgement?. here:

    http://www.alahazrat.net/islam/40-ah...ed-prophet.php
    I love him SAW more now.

    May Allah cure my heart. I am still sick. There is something preventing me from loving him more tho. :/

    Jazak Allah khayr.
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    Did the Prophet SAW not love his uncle Abu Talib?
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post


    Did the Prophet SAW not love his uncle Abu Talib?
    ofcourse he did. what makes you ask that???

    do you know that the year in which hazrat khadija and abu talib died was called the year of grief? i.e the 10th year of prophethood.
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ramen-thelegend View Post
    ofcourse he did. what makes you ask that???

    do you know that the year in which hazrat khadija and abu talib died was called the year of grief? i.e the 10th year of prophethood.
    I do know..

    How do I make my heart rely more on Allah, and my Imaan on Allah, and not science?
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    I do know..

    How do I make my heart rely more on Allah, and my Imaan on Allah, and not science?
    by not relating religion to science. keep them apart if you think its hard for you to understand.

    i dont know how to rely on ALLAH swt, i only know that he knows about my life, my intentions and my future, i dont wait for him to get things better, i try to do it myself and ask him to guide me to whatever's better.

    brother what's wrong with you? is it with your iman or some other problem?

    the way i ensure islam is true and fight against satan is by questioning. people's answers vary, but they ensure me that there is a reason/answer and billions of people are not so stupid to believe in something that doesn't exist.
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ramen-thelegend View Post
    by not relating religion to science. keep them apart if you think its hard for you to understand.

    i dont know how to rely on ALLAH swt, i only know that he knows about my life, my intentions and my future, i dont wait for him to get things better, i try to do it myself and ask him to guide me to whatever's better.

    brother what's wrong with you? is it with your iman or some other problem?

    the way i ensure islam is true and fight against satan is by questioning. people's answers vary, but they ensure me that there is a reason/answer and billions of people are not so stupid to believe in something that doesn't exist.

    Well,firstly it was an intellectual problem, to a moral doubts etc.

    I thought we couldn't love kafirs etc. we'd have to be harsh against them. But I guess the ayat is taken out of context. Allahu alam.

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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    Well,firstly it was an intellectual problem, to a moral doubts etc.

    I thought we couldn't love kafirs etc. we'd have to be harsh against them. But I guess the ayat is taken out of context. Allahu alam.

    JazakAllah khayr for answering, sister.
    wait, i dont get it. so do you still have any doubts? or is it all crystal clear now?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by ramen-thelegend View Post
    wait, i dont get it. so do you still have any doubts? or is it all crystal clear now?

    ps. i think you should make full use of your friend @Kiro !
    Omg, ok, I have no intellectual doubts. I know that the Quran is true etc. Logically. My Aqeedah etc.

    More on the moral side. I'll just think good of the Prophet SAW, and may Allah guide me if I am wrong. Ameen.
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.



    I want someone to correct me if I am wrong..

    I call upon Allah, by His names and Attributes ONLY. Doing otherwise, one can fall into shirk of associating partners with Allah, right?

    I am confused, therefore I, to avoid shirk, reject every false diety (obv) and every attribute that Allah doesn't call Himself.
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post


    I want someone to correct me if I am wrong..

    I call upon Allah, by His names and Attributes ONLY. Doing otherwise, one can fall into shirk of associating partners with Allah, right?

    I am confused, therefore I, to avoid shirk, reject every false diety (obv) and every attribute that Allah doesn't call Himself.
    Correct. What are you confused about exactly?
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ConcealedGem View Post
    Correct. What are you confused about exactly?
    sematics.. Language.. I believe in Allah alone, God is in English, etc. Allah is in Arabic.. Refers to Allah, both of them..

    If someone comes and says "so and so is the lord of the heavens" I'd label him a liar. Cause Allah alone is! to say otherwise and label it sematics, would, unintentionally make one associate partners with Allah. Audhu billah!

    So, I to be on the safe side, reject every false diety, obv. But also every name I don't recognize as Allah.

    How do I rid myself off of this confusion with sematics?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    sematics.. Language.. I believe in Allah alone, God is in English, etc. Allah is in Arabic.. Refers to Allah, both of them..

    If someone comes and says "so and so is the lord of the heavens" I'd label him a liar. Cause Allah alone is! to say otherwise and label it sematics, would, unintentionally make one associate partners with Allah. Audhu billah!

    So, I to be on the safe side, reject every false diety, obv. But also every name I don't recognize as Allah.

    How do I rid myself off of this confusion with sematics?
    Bismillah.

    SubhanAllah brother, I think you are over thinking this, the term "lord" is just a synonym for higher being or supreme creator, and Allah knows best, it does not mean that person is referring to another creator. It may mean Allah (we wont know unless we know their religion)

    Read Surah A'la/Iqra with translation, look at the words used, subhanAllah we wont be able to get much from the language just by reading plain English and understanding the semantics associated with such words. :/ Which is why we should learn the language of arabic because it will allow us to understand the language of the Quran to its fullest..

    For now just concentrate on being the best Muslim you can be, over think less because Shaytan will find you an easy target then.

    I came across a quote a while ago and I think it may help, I know you're not depressed but sometimes over thinking can lead to depression, save your iman.

    Ibn al Qayyim Rahimahulllah said:

    "There is nothing more beloved to shaytan than a depressed believer."

    Jazakallah khayran.
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    Re: Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

    format_quote Originally Posted by ConcealedGem View Post
    Bismillah.

    SubhanAllah brother, I think you are over thinking this, the term "lord" is just a synonym for higher being or supreme creator, and Allah knows best, it does not mean that person is referring to another creator. It may mean Allah (we wont know unless we know their religion)

    Read Surah A'la/Iqra with translation, look at the words used, subhanAllah we wont be able to get much from the language just by reading plain English and understanding the semantics associated with such words. :/ Which is why we should learn the language of arabic because it will allow us to understand the language of the Quran to its fullest..

    For now just concentrate on being the best Muslim you can be, over think less because Shaytan will find you an easy target then.

    I came across a quote a while ago and I think it may help, I know you're not depressed but sometimes over thinking can lead to depression, save your iman.

    Ibn al Qayyim Rahimahulllah said:

    "There is nothing more beloved to shaytan than a depressed believer."

    Jazakallah khayran.
    Ok, I will hold on to Allah. Reject every false diety, but if they say "Oh lord" I'll be like "Idk" cuz Lord could refer to many things.

    So yeah.. I accept only Allah and His attributes.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity View Post
    Ok, I will hold on to Allah. Reject every false diety, but if they say "Oh lord" I'll be like "Idk" cuz Lord could refer to many things.

    So yeah.. I accept only Allah and His attributes.
    Yeah, we can say Lord too but better if we can say Allah of course, Allah knows best.

    Yes you do. Do you know what the 6 articles of faith are?
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