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    Assalamu Alaikum!
    The Arabic text may be missing for some as it is with me.Instead you will get very strange codes if Arabic does not show.But the English Translation along with proper references is present.
    Please refer to this website for detailed answers on the allegations against Islam.
    http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/do...r_slave_girls_

    THE RIGHTS OF SLAVES.
    https://islamqa.info/en/94840

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    It is unjust to compare the slavery of the kuffar with the concept of Islam.If Muslims kept slaves,then it does not mean what it apparently means.
    How many a slaves,refused to leave their Muslim masters,even when they had the choice.
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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Well, I'm glad you agree it's wrong to rape your slave girls...
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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Greetings,

    Quote Originally Posted by hatsoff View Post
    Well, I'm glad you agree it's wrong to rape your slave girls...
    It's remarkable that it's even an issue.

    Peace
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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    We had here long discussion about this matter at the last year:

    My confusion in slavery in islam

    It may be useful to read.
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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    It's remarkable that it's even an issue.
    It's not an issue. Just a refutation for Islamophobes who falsely allege things about Islam and Muslims.
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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    No is the answer.

    Leave about rape for ever, Even sex without a proper marriage is an issue with difference of opinions seen from this hadith in post # 3

    Mostly overlooked Hadith and verses and their wisdom
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    Just a Muslim with Glorious Quran and (hadith) sunnah as my guide as in verse 41:33 '' And who is better in speech than one who invites to Allah and does righteousness and says, "Indeed, I am of the Muslims."

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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Salaam Ale3koem,

    I think this is a difficult issue to touch upon without proper knowledge of hadith, Qu´ran and shariah. As a laywoman I dare not say what is good or bad about these rulings.

    As a person I say I don´t understand how you determine whether a slave has consensual sexual relationships with anyone, as the very position of being a slave seems to rule that out. But Allah knows more than me, and I know very little about the subject. I personally find it difficult to accept the concept of slavery, and I doubt it is something permitted unless in dire circumstances or like I read somewhere where the master owns the person in order to better them as people because they would otherwise do bad things in the world.

    I think in that case it is not much different than our current prison system, which is also a place where people lose their freedom, get corrected and usually do labor. If that is comparable to the Islamic slavery system, I think it is indeed not that bad.
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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Greetings,

    Quote Originally Posted by AabiruSabeel View Post
    It's not an issue. Just a refutation for Islamophobes who falsely allege things about Islam and Muslims.
    It's being discussed, so it's an issue by definition.

    "issue: a subject or problem that people are thinking and talking about" (Cambridge English Dictionary)

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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    It's being discussed, so it's an issue by definition.

    "issue: a subject or problem that people are thinking and talking about" (Cambridge English Dictionary)
    The Oxford Dictionary defines it as "An important topic or problem for debate or discussion."

    I say, it is not a problem for debate and discussion (not an issue) because this is something non-existent in Islam, and a false allegation levied by Islamophobes.

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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kawlah View Post
    Salaam Ale3koem,

    I think this is a difficult issue to touch upon without proper knowledge of hadith, Qu´ran and shariah. As a laywoman I dare not say what is good or bad about these rulings.

    As a person I say I don´t understand how you determine whether a slave has consensual sexual relationships with anyone, as the very position of being a slave seems to rule that out. But Allah knows more than me, and I know very little about the subject. I personally find it difficult to accept the concept of slavery, and I doubt it is something permitted unless in dire circumstances or like I read somewhere where the master owns the person in order to better them as people because they would otherwise do bad things in the world.

    I think in that case it is not much different than our current prison system, which is also a place where people lose their freedom, get corrected and usually do labor. If that is comparable to the Islamic slavery system, I think it is indeed not that bad.

    Assalaamo alaikum


    You are right. In fact making someone slave is forbidden in Islam but slavery happens as a result of wars. The captives of the war are not kept in prison because prison life by itself is a torture. In prison a prisoner is enclosed inside a building or a boundary. No matter how well they are treated, but they have no freedom to walk freely in an open area. In a Muslim society the war captives are given to the people who have the responsibility to feed them very well and to keep them well. But they have to observe them that they should not be dangerous. Allah All-Mighty has ordered the Muslims to free slaves. But they must see that the character of the slave is good and trustable, this is important for the safety and security of the society. You should remember that the Caliph Umar rAa had kept a slave in his house due to great sympathy with him because the slave had made a false story that he became Muslim and his people were after him to kill him. So Umar rAa kept him in safety. Then when Umar rAa was making salaah (prayer) in the house, the slave took advantage of the opportunity and cut his abdomen with a knife or sword. So Umar rAa got deeply wounded and after a few days passed away due to the same injuries. So the prisoners of war could not be trusted but were not kept enclosed in prisons. Rather they were given to the Muslims to feed and cloth them and let them go around freely (not like a prison) but at the same time keep an eye on them to protect the society from their mischief.


    Girl/female captives, when given to the Muslims as slaves then she becomes like the wife of the master with her will. She has all rights of a wife but her rights are half of the rights of the free wife of her master. The Master is responsible for the children produced and after the birth of a child she becomes a permanent member of that family. As they live with the Muslims so they learn Islam and mostly they enter the fold of Islam. Allah has ordered the freeing of slaves in expiation of many sins. A hadeeth says : " Among the lawful things, the dearest one to Allah is the freeing of slaves and among the lawful things the most hateful in the sight of Allah is divorce."


    Due to this hadeeth, many companions had freed many slaves. Aa'ishah rAa alone had freed numerous slaves. You must remember that Bilaal rAa was a slave of Abu Jahl. When he became Muslim, Abu Jahl made him lie down on hot sand in the sun and put heavy stones on his chest and abdomen. When Abu Bakar Siddeeq came to know about this cruelty, he went to Abu Jahl and bought Bilaal rAa from him, then he rAa freed him (Bilaal rAa). So the companions used to buy slaves from the kaafirs and polytheists only to give them freedom either just for Allah's Pleasure or for the expiation of some sin. Thus slavery came to end due to the above hadeeth as well as due to the Islamic Law in which one of the options for the expiation of many sins is the freeing of a slave. As an example I give the translation of a verse of the surah Al-Maa-idah (verse 89, surah 5) for the expiation of the breaking of an oath:

    Allah will not impose blame upon you for what is meaningless in your oaths, but He will impose blame upon you for [breaking] what you intended of oaths. So its expiation is the feeding of ten needy people from the average of that which you feed your [own] families or clothing them or the freeing of a slave. But whoever cannot find [or afford it] - then a fast of three days [is required]. That is the expiation for oaths when you have sworn. But guard your oaths. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be grateful.
    Last edited by OmAbdullah; 11-10-2017 at 11:23 PM.
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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Quote Originally Posted by AabiruSabeel View Post
    It's not an issue. Just a refutation for Islamophobes who falsely allege things about Islam and Muslims.
    yeah, this warped narrative of Muslims apparently being allowed to rape their slave girls is being regurgitated all over the intahwebs, proving for the upteenth time that intahwebbers don't know how to research!!! Unbelievably, this dumbness has also leaked into speakers corner - I refuse to deal with the stupidity. Focus on the dawah, and through this we deal with the genuine concerns of those who are seriously seeking truth - not those who are averse to it!

    EDIT: as a side in, i have to mention that Muslims aren't medieval era crusaders to go raping their way around the block!!! Sheesh!!! Confuddling histories is a bad habit among the people of disbelief!
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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    yeah, this warped narrative of Muslims apparently being allowed to rape their slave girls is being regurgitated all over the intahwebs, proving for the upteenth time that intahwebbers don't know how to research!!! Unbelievably, this dumbness has also leaked into speakers corner - I refuse to deal with the stupidity. Focus on the dawah, and through this we deal with the genuine concerns of those who are seriously seeking truth - not those who are averse to it!

    EDIT: as a side in, i have to mention that Muslims aren't medieval era crusaders to go raping their way around the block!!! Sheesh!!! Confuddling histories is a bad habit among the people of disbelief!
    I have to agree with Scimi. Someone posted about this issue[?] on my Facebook a while back and referenced part of a single sentence from Surah An-Nisa 4:24 ("women...your right hand possess"). I looked up the source and read just the few sentences before and after the quote, and... Surprise! Taken completely out of context. It took me about 30 seconds to reference check this, but most interwebbers won't invest even that much time.

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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    Islam doesn't even allow "marital rape", let alone someone that isn't your wife.

    Though it is a sin upon the wife (and husband for that matter) to deny intercourse. However, this assumes that they don't plan to divorce or are in the progress of it.

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    Re: Does Islam Allow Rape of Female Slaves?

    (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)

    Quote Originally Posted by czgibson View Post
    Greetings,
    Greetings, old friend!

    It's being discussed, so it's an issue by definition.

    "issue: a subject or problem that people are thinking and talking about" (Cambridge English Dictionary)

    Peace
    How unfortunate that your words remind me of sometimes the attacks leveled on President Donald Trump. True, I don't have a high opinion of our current U.S. President, but there are honestly some accusations that strike me as hysterical and even patently over the top against President Donald Trump to paint a false picture. As someone who deliberately voted for Former Secretary Hillary Clinton and someone who has self-identified as a liberal on the political spectrum her entire life, I can tell you that it is these types of idiotic reactions have given ammunition to the people on the right of the political spectrum to continue to defeat Democrats despite populist leftist policies being that with which most American people agree regardless of their political affiliation.

    Similarly, "issues" as you say as the above are similarly being discussed on Internet circles, but these topics are blatantly presented in a hysterical and over the top fashion to unequivocally paint a false picture, and then they cannot understand why Muslims like me continue to ignore their stupidity. Let's remember that the highest percentage of people who convert to Islam are from the female population, not men; and it is about time I think that we stop infantilizing Muslims generally and specifically Muslim women and thinking of them as lower beings who are willing to subjugate their intellect to what is supposedly an "inferior" and "sexist" and "misogynistic" religion. To clarify, I have discussed this topic previously, not because I think it is an issue in Islam but because these comprise of ridiculous charges made against Muslims as a "gotcha" or worse to show us as people who are thinking "happy" thoughts about women of other faiths being raped under the subjugation of Islam.

    Let's be clear: Rape is sick, disgusting, immoral, and evil (in any situation, historical or present). And Islam never said or even implied it is okay to rape any person regardless of their religious or political affiliation in any situation (historical or present). And for anyone to say or imply otherwise is to perpetuate a lie. There were situations in wartime or in the aftermath of war in which women were taken under the protection of Muslim households to prevent them from falling into destitution or prostitution, and the reality is that we as human beings form attachments to even animals if we're living with them, never mind actual human beings. So, Islam addressed the reality that a romantic attachment or physical attraction may form between the man and the woman when they are interacting with one another on a daily basis (even given the observation of modesty emphasized in Islam). So, Islam gave permission in those situations for men to not forswear sex with those women provided they know to treat the women as human beings who are given rights similar to a legal wife if not the actual status of a legal wife. The woman's status in that household then becomes identical to that of Biblical Hagar who was a handmaiden to Sarah and was not the actual or legal wife of Prophet Abraham (may peace be upon him); just as Hagar was not a "sex slave" just because she consented to have sexual relations with Prophet Abraham, the woman in this situation did not become a "sex slave" either by virtue of her status in the household in that time. Sexual slavery is literally something else, something of which probably 99.99% Internet trolls have no idea but like to level as a charge against Islam. And as someone who has dealt with some sexual trafficking victims in my line of work and know the ensuing trauma these victims face and carry as a burden, I have no compunction in giving Internet trolls a figurative middle finger in my mind for their idiotic charges made in hatred against "Mooselimbs" and Islam but I suppose stupid is as stupid does.

    Peace.

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