what do you mean? which "other paths" are you referring to?
I was brought up Gulenist, but began questioning it from an early age, but to be fair, much of had to do with my atheist tendencies and my being hooked on porn and trying to date women in the movement, then I was kicked out of youth activities at a young age before 17/25 events and later became a salafi, then i became a nurcu, then i became a gulenist again, then i switched back and forth between sufism, nurculuk, salafism, deobandi, etc. right now im considering leaving gulenism again, but all my friends are in gulenism, but considering all the emotional abuse i went through because of them, and some of the thing i question, im out. but even if i left id still be able to keep my friends in gulen cemaat, but if i left and became salafi, they, being liberal, might consider be strange.
How do I know which is the correct Islam? How do I know if I am on the correct path? So many different paths claim to be the truth?
Well the straight path is following the Quran and Sunnah.If you see yourself following them the way they are,liking what Allah likes and disliking what Allah dislikes,and obeying and accepting what Allah and his messenger has commanded,even if you dont agree or dont like any of these,then theres a lot of chance you are in the straight path.
In surah Fatiha we ask Allah to guide us in the straight path,not in the path or the christians or the jews.Christians dont even have their original book,eveything in their religion has changed,everything is bidah,and jews were too arrogant and trying to find ways to 'justify' their actions,so they could follow their desires.So staying away from any innovation and following your desires,and putting Quran and sunnah first no matter the situation,then you are in the straight path in shaa Allah.
What helps for me is always making duaa to Allah to guide me,to guide me in religion and in my worldy affairs.
Anyway this is my opinion.Allah knows best ofc.
format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit
what do you mean? which "other paths" are you referring to?
he means that there are many groups trying to be the rightly guided.
I was brought up Gulenist, but began questioning it from an early age, but to be fair, much of had to do with my atheist tendencies and my being hooked on porn and trying to date women in the movement, then I was kicked out of youth activities at a young age before 17/25 events and later became a salafi, then i became a nurcu, then i became a gulenist again, then i switched back and forth between sufism, nurculuk, salafism, deobandi, etc. right now im considering leaving gulenism again, but all my friends are in gulenism, but considering all the emotional abuse i went through because of them, and some of the thing i question, im out. but even if i left id still be able to keep my friends in gulen cemaat, but if i left and became salafi, they, being liberal, might consider be strange.
You are a rolling stone bro ! Best of luck with your new identity . One simple suggestion , this time try to be a Muslim . No Gulenist , no Salafi , no Shia , no Sunni , just a simple Muslim . How would you become a Muslim ? Again very simple; follow the Qur'an . That will make your life easy .
[017:009] Verily this Quran doth guide to that which is most right (or stable), and giveth the Glad Tidings to the Believers who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a magnificent reward;
I was brought up Gulenist, but began questioning it from an early age, but to be fair, much of had to do with my atheist tendencies and my being hooked on porn and trying to date women in the movement, then I was kicked out of youth activities at a young age before 17/25 events and later became a salafi, then i became a nurcu, then i became a gulenist again, then i switched back and forth between sufism, nurculuk, salafism, deobandi, etc. right now im considering leaving gulenism again, but all my friends are in gulenism, but considering all the emotional abuse i went through because of them, and some of the thing i question, im out. but even if i left id still be able to keep my friends in gulen cemaat, but if i left and became salafi, they, being liberal, might consider be strange.
Brother are you having doubts? Remember that you were the one who tried to reassure me when I had doubts. Think about that. Deep down, you know what's right, you have to keep hanging in there, if you need more advice we can help
STAY AWAY FROM GROUPS !
I tend to be more salafi,and i like salafi a lot as they are very strong against innovations and tend to be conservative than others.But i never call myself salafi.Dont call yourself by any name rather than muslim,muslim sunni,and dont follow groups but follow the Quran and the Sunnah.Follow the most respected scholars.How are you following a group named from a guy who doesnt even have a beard? The prophet saws advices us to trim the moustache and leave the beards,but this guy trims the beard and leave the moustache.I mean if you are going against the teachings of the prophet for smth so little,imagine for other things.Stay away please,and stay away from those friends.Say salam alaikum and if you see them greet them,as in islam we shouldnt cut ties,but stay away from being a group with them.You will lose from the straight path if you stay with them.
It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”
format_quote Originally Posted by SintoDinto
I was brought up Gulenist, but began questioning it from an early age, but to be fair, much of had to do with my atheist tendencies and my being hooked on porn and trying to date women in the movement, then I was kicked out of youth activities at a young age before 17/25 events and later became a salafi, then i became a nurcu, then i became a gulenist again, then i switched back and forth between sufism, nurculuk, salafism, deobandi, etc. right now im considering leaving gulenism again, but all my friends are in gulenism, but considering all the emotional abuse i went through because of them, and some of the thing i question, im out. but even if i left id still be able to keep my friends in gulen cemaat, but if i left and became salafi, they, being liberal, might consider be strange.
STAY AWAY FROM GROUPS !
I tend to be more salafi,and i like salafi a lot as they are very strong against innovations and tend to be conservative than others.But i never call myself salafi.Dont call yourself by any name rather than muslim,muslim sunni,and dont follow groups but follow the Quran and the Sunnah.Follow the most respected scholars.How are you following a group named from a guy who doesnt even have a beard? The prophet saws advices us to trim the moustache and leave the beards,but this guy trims the beard and leave the moustache.I mean if you are going against the teachings of the prophet for smth so little,imagine for other things.Stay away please,and stay away from those friends.Say salam alaikum and if you see them greet them,as in islam we shouldnt cut ties,but stay away from being a group with them.You will lose from the straight path if you stay with them.
It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”
STAY AWAY FROM GROUPS !
I tend to be more salafi,and i like salafi a lot as they are very strong against innovations and tend to be conservative than others.But i never call myself salafi.Dont call yourself by any name rather than muslim,muslim sunni,and dont follow groups but follow the Quran and the Sunnah.Follow the most respected scholars.How are you following a group named from a guy who doesnt even have a beard? The prophet saws advices us to trim the moustache and leave the beards,but this guy trims the beard and leave the moustache.I mean if you are going against the teachings of the prophet for smth so little,imagine for other things.Stay away please,and stay away from those friends.Say salam alaikum and if you see them greet them,as in islam we shouldnt cut ties,but stay away from being a group with them.You will lose from the straight path if you stay with them.
It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”
Advise: Stay away from groups...
*joins Salafi group*
Advise: follow the most respected scholars
*thinks that the most respected scholars like Hanafi, Shafi, Hanbali, Maliki are not good enough*
Advise: Stay away from groups...
*joins Salafi group*
Advise: follow the most respected scholars
*thinks that the most respected scholars like Hanafi, Shafi, Hanbali, Maliki are not good enough*
Thanks for making my post less credible.Next time please read my message and try to understand.I will write it many times again,i hope you can understand it or at least read it.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.
I think i already said that i dont call myself salafi,so how did i join the salafi according to you?
And where did i say scholars like Hanafi Shafi etc are not good enough? I didnt mention any of them.For every case i get the opinions of all madhabs and follow the one my heart feels its right.Let me tell you again that i dont associate myself with any group before you make me *join another group*
Thanks for making my post less credible.Next time please read my message and try to understand.I will write it many times again,i hope you can understand it or at least read it.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi. But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.
I think i already said that i dont call myself salafi,so how did i join the salafi according to you?
And where did i say scholars like Hanafi Shafi etc are not good enough? I didnt mention any of them.For every case i get the opinions of all madhabs and follow the one my heart feels its right.Let me tell you again that i dont associate myself with any group before you make me *join another group*
Forgive me if I have hurt your feelings . I just tried to point out that even Slalafi is another human-created sect/group in Islam like any others . Hence all of them should be equally abandoned . ALLAH swt staunchly instructed in Qur'an not to divide Islam into sects and be called 'Muslim' , without designating it to any sect ( Salafi Muslim , Hanafi Muslim etc.) .
Forgive me if I have hurt your feelings . I just tried to point out that even Slalafi is another human-created sect/group in Islam like any others . Hence all of them should be equally abandoned . ALLAH swt staunchly instructed in Qur'an not to divide Islam into sects and be called 'Muslim' , without designating it to any sect ( Salafi Muslim , Hanafi Muslim etc.) .
how can i forgive you for this???? lool dw,you dont even have to apologise.I am not angry or sad or whatever.I was just very annoyed cuz i just woke up and i read that lol.But i shouldnt have replied like that so i apologise too.
Yes ofc,we need madhabs to understand the religion better.We need scholars to explain it to us,but sticking blindly to a madhab or joining into groups thats not what Allah and the prophet saws told us to do.Muslims should be all one.
I do the same thing as well, most serious Muslims who follow Quran and Sunnah tend to be just like the salafis in many ways. I don't call myself a salafi though because I'd rather just call myself Muslim rather than splitting. And I will always research my information rather than automatically following an opinion just because a salafi scholar follows it
how can i forgive you for this???? lool dw,you dont even have to apologise.I am not angry or sad or whatever.I was just very annoyed cuz i just woke up and i read that lol.But i shouldnt have replied like that so i apologise too.
Yes ofc,we need madhabs to understand the religion better.We need scholars to explain it to us,but sticking blindly to a madhab or joining into groups thats not what Allah and the prophet saws told us to do.Muslims should be all one.
May The Almighty bless you my brother .
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format_quote Originally Posted by Islami.Mu'mina
I do the same thing as well, most serious Muslims who follow Quran and Sunnah tend to be just like the salafis in many ways. I don't call myself a salafi though because I'd rather just call myself Muslim rather than splitting. And I will always research my information rather than automatically following an opinion just because a salafi scholar follows it
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. I just tried to point out that even Slalafi is another human-created sect/group in Islam like any others . Hence all of them should be equally abandoned . ALLAH swt staunchly instructed in Qur'an not to divide Islam into sects and be called 'Muslim' , without designating it to any sect ( Salafi Muslim , Hanafi Muslim etc.) .
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