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    Knowing death is inevitable, yet a person is born.
    Who is the murderer?
    God or us(people)?
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grogu View Post
    Knowing death is inevitable, yet a person is born.
    Who is the murderer?
    God or us(people)?
    Ehm...yeah...you are not seeing the whole picture.
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    I do not know whether you do it on purpose or not, but you are disregarding a lot of points in your question.
    Let us turn it around...
    you say you are Christian...which means you also believe in a God who created this world with death in it.
    How would you answer your question?
    Do you think God is te murderer or us people?
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    I say, us (people). We're the murderer, because we know death is inevitable.

    What is the disregarded points?
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    You mentioned, God create this world with death in it. Can you point me to the verse?

    Some may argue, death is part of life. But if death is part of life then, why In the bible & (maybe) quran, Jesus the messiah defeat death?
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grogu View Post
    I say, us (people). We're the murderer, because we know death is inevitable.
    a strange answer. But maybe because I do not understand what you exactly mean by "murderer". How are we the murderer when we are not the ones taking someones life?
    I mean, if someone dies of sickness or of old age...how can we be pointed out as the murderer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grogu View Post
    What is the disregarded points?
    is huge with every single point of them being a topic on its own.
    like:
    why did God create us?
    What is our purpose on earth?
    Did we have a choice to not be here?
    Why is there so much suffering and unfairness in this world?
    Is God just? and how is God just?
    What happens after death?
    etc. etc.

    I mean, if you do not understand the wisdom behind it, is seems very cruel that God put us on this unfair planet full of suffering and misery with death as our final goal.
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grogu View Post
    You mentioned, God create this world with death in it. Can you point me to the verse?

    Some may argue, death is part of life. But if death is part of life then, why In the bible & (maybe) quran, Jesus the messiah defeat death?
    I do not know if there is a specific verse that says exactly that, but 1+1=2
    God created the humanity out of clay with Adam as as the first human...and death is certain for EVERY lifeform.

    Jesus did not defeat death...His time to die did not come yet. One day he will appear back on earth, will fight the dajjal (you call it antichrist), will be victorious, and then die a normal death just like any other living creature...So he did not defeat death at all.
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    a strange answer. But maybe because I do not understand what you exactly mean by "murderer". How are we the murderer when we are not the ones taking someones life?
    I mean, if someone dies of sickness or of old age...how can we be pointed out as the murderer.
    Giving life (birth) is what I'm talking about. we know death is inevitable, yet we add life.

    Are we not murderer?
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit View Post
    I mean, if you do not understand the wisdom behind it, is seems very cruel that God put us on this unfair planet full of suffering and misery with death as our final goal.
    If you think about it, we are adding life in this world, not God/Allah.

    We're cruel not God/Allah.

    Are we not feeding death by adding life?
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    Re: Who is the murderer?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Grogu View Post
    If you think about it, we are adding life in this world, not God/Allah.

    We're cruel not God/Allah.

    Are we not feeding death by adding life?
    We add nothing. We cannot create life...so how are we adding life? We are the tools for Allah used in the process of creating life...so Allah creates life, not we.

    If we decide to have a child, then is that because of Allahs will.
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