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Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

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    Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam? (OP)


    Basically, I have discussions with a person who always brings up if there is any evidence for the name 'Allah' before the advent of Islam.

    He states taht since it is G-ds name it should have been known to others.


    Anyhow if anyone has any help on this topic it will be appriciated.

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    Re: Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

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    tell him to explain what is islam. Islam is submission to GOD, therefore it existed from the time of Adam AS. Therefore islam was always existent but it got "PERFECTED" when Muhammad saws came.

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    Re: Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

    Argh, I still dont think I've made it clear.

    This person believes Yahweh is G-d and so forth and that Allah is a different G-d.

    so he has asked me if Allah is G-d to al the other prophets is there any mention of this name?? because muslims hold it to be His Name.
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    Re: Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

    format_quote Originally Posted by IsaAbdullah View Post
    Argh, I still dont think I've made it clear.

    This person believes Yahweh is G-d and so forth and that Allah is a different G-d.

    so he has asked me if Allah is G-d to al the other prophets is there any mention of this name?? because muslims hold it to be His Name.
    You are clear. It is just that we seem to be having difficulty in presenting something that would make sense to your friend. It is a language problem. Much of theOld Tetement was written in Hebrew. Allah would have been translated into the language of the people. An analogy would be an Englishman named John, is his name John or is it the Spanish Juan? They are both the same name. A name is deeper then the pronouniation or the spelling of a word.
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    Re: Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

    format_quote Originally Posted by IsaAbdullah View Post
    Argh, I still dont think I've made it clear.

    This person believes Yahweh is G-d and so forth and that Allah is a different G-d.

    so he has asked me if Allah is G-d to al the other prophets is there any mention of this name?? because muslims hold it to be His Name.
    According to many religion scholars, Allah derives from the hebre word el which comes from Elohim or something like that...visit islamtomorrow.com, there is an explanation of it I think
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    Re: Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

    I posted this already, but I'm happy to repost. I'm a linguist, and this is what I know: it's not a borrowing, it's a cognate - a native word with cousins in related languages.

    In Semitic languages, the original root word for a divine being was *il-, which appears in all branches of the family.

    It appears in Akkadian (Babylonian-Assyrian) as il-um, female ilat-um (-um is the same as Arabic al-). There was no god called simply Ilu in Akkadian, though - it was just a word for any god.

    It appears in Aramaic-Syriac as Elah-a "God" from *il- + -âh- "great" (-a is the equivalent of Arabic al-

    It appears in Hebrew as h&#226;-El "God" < *il- and El&#244;him < *il-&#226;h- + -im. It is only used for the monotheistic divinity.

    It appears in ancient Arabian (Northern and Southern) as han-ilahu, feminine han-ilatu; both appear as terms for any divinity (a god/dess) and as proper names (The God; The Goddess). Sometimes you find inscriptions that say "the god of Bosra is L&#226;h" or "the goddess of al-Hijr is L&#226;t" just like you find ones in Jordan that say "the god of Petra is "He-of-Vegetation (Dh&#251; l-Shar&#226;)".

    In Arabic, it appears as both ilah "god" and as a proper name, L&#226;h (as in the Shah&#226;da, l&#226; ilaha ill&#226; al-L&#226;h.) We also know that L&#226;t - a war goddess - is also mentioned in the Qur'&#226;n along with 3Uzz&#226; - a protector and mother goddess. Along with "Fate", Man&#226;t, they are mentioned by name as false idols.

    It is clear from all the various evidences that *Ilat- became *Il&#226;t- because of the parallel with *Il&#226;h-.

    The 7unuf&#226;' and Ahlu l-Kit&#226;b appear to have identified L&#226;h as "God", which is exactly the cognate word anyway. North Arabian "pagan" religions were very strongly aniconic and monotheistic-oriented, although they paired the main divinity into a married pair. In Nabat&#230;a, the pair was 3Uzz&#226;' and Dh&#251; l-Shar&#226;; in other areas, it was L&#226;h-L&#226;t.
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    Re: Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

    to muslim bro/sis

    this can be help insAllaah

    Is Allah Mentioned In Other Scriptures?
    http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-i...tures.html#top
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    Re: Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

    In aramaic they say ALLAHA and also ELAAH

    this language was spoken by Prophet Isa(Jesus) peace be upon him
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    Re: Any Evidences for 'Allah' Before Islam?

    here the aramaic site

    http://members.aol.com/assyrianme/ar...ch/church.html

    if anyone watched the movie Passion of Christ

    the man on the cross cried out 'ELAAHI ELAAHI' same as arabic

    Mary was called MARYAM in the same movie.
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    All of them worship out of fear of fire
    and consider deliverance abundant good fortune
    or so they may dwell in the gardens , and reach to the meadows of paradise and there drink from its rivers
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