I've been having a big discussion with my non-Muslim parents about why music isn't allowed, and since I'm not very good at debates, I don't have very good answers. They keep telling me that music hasn't done them any harm, and that music makes you happy. I've tried comparing the affects of music to illegal drugs, but they keep asking me what harm having something to make you feel a certain way does. They also keep accusing me of being autistic, because of the apparent 'rules are rules' atitude they think I have, and they are worried about me becoming an extremist or just hiding away from society to get away from doing haram things. Please answer me soon, because I need answers before I go on a bike ride.
Please don't close this because it's a music topic, I really need answers. If I don't have any, they'll just think it's a stupid prohibition.
Th only thing i'm sayin in this topic is that if u follow the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) then u not gna lisn to music full stp as he said music isnt allowed - plenty of proofs have been given before from the qur'an and hadiths and if u turn away from that then....(complete the sentence urself)
Im not 100% sure but i heard sumwhere that if you 100% and sincerely believe that what your doing is right by following a certain scholars fiqh then due to your sincerity in Taqlid (following Allah through a scholars Understanding) you will be forgiven.
But then the haditH:
SAHIH BUKHARI
Volume 3, Book 34, Number 267:
Narrated An-Nu'man bin Bashir:
The Prophet said "Both legal and illegal things are obvious, and in between them are (suspicious) doubtful matters. So who-ever forsakes those doubtful things lest he may commit a sin, will definitely avoid what is clearly illegal; and who-ever indulges in these (suspicious) doubtful things bravely, is likely to commit what is clearly illegal. Sins are Allah's Hima (i.e. private pasture) and whoever pastures (his sheep) near it, is likely to get in it at any moment."
So avoid smoking, avoid listening to music, avoid all that is doubtful!!! INSHAALLAH and take the scholar who's opinion has the most proof if u must and i've seen more proof against music then for music!
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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Im not 100% sure but i heard sumwhere that if you 100% and sincerely believe that what your doing is right by following a certain scholars fiqh then due to your sincerity in Taqlid (following Allah through a scholars Understanding) you will be forgiven.
But then the haditH:
SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 3, Book 34, Number 267: Narrated An-Nu'man bin Bashir:
The Prophet said "Both legal and illegal things are obvious, and in between them are (suspicious) doubtful matters. So who-ever forsakes those doubtful things lest he may commit a sin, will definitely avoid what is clearly illegal; and who-ever indulges in these (suspicious) doubtful things bravely, is likely to commit what is clearly illegal. Sins are Allah's Hima (i.e. private pasture) and whoever pastures (his sheep) near it, is likely to get in it at any moment."
So avoid smoking, avoid listening to music, avoid all that is doubtful!!! INSHAALLAH and take the scholar who's opinion has the most proof if u must and i've seen more proof against music then for music!
salams bro abdul, yeh i agree with ya mate, just one thing, why is Music doubtful? isn't the hadith that i quoted from bukhari as clear as any hadith can get
salamz
ps: new nasheed album coming out in a few months inshalah, i got to hear a sneak preview, rips sami yusuf by miles mashalah
salams bro abdul, yeh i agree with ya mate, just one thing, why is Music doubtful? isn't the hadith that i quoted from bukhari as clear as any hadith can get
salamz
ps: new nasheed album coming out in a few months inshalah, i got to hear a sneak preview, rips sami yusuf by miles mashalah
bro its clear to me, but the scholars put people in doubt, therefore theres a "difference of opinion" and like i mentioned, anyone sincere in there Taqlid might just be forgiven but i completely hundred percent think music is wrong, thats why i dont listen to it anymore
BTW WHATS THIS NASHEED??? lol
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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YEAH.... what nasheed?
(p.s in my opinion I wouldn't go to that meeting, and I would explain my religious opinion to my family members, and inshaAllah they would understand... if not......tough)
W'salaam
A very good question. yes, u r allowed to go if the family will break off ties with you as long as you dont take pleasure in lisnin 2 th music....
**edited** - this is one of the opinions
salaam sis..
i always used to think tht aswell.. what u just answerd the question abut the wedding .. but i have asked some people they say u are allowed to go because it all from niyah (intention) but what wud u chose allahs words or the family words.. cause what some people are saying that u wudnt care abut anyone in this world except allah cause the poeple wunt take u anywhre except allah wud if u work hard in tis world for him .. amd i right or not.??.. and wud u pls give some proofs sis that says u are allowed for the sake of ur family??..
I really dont get it, people are saying scholars are in difference of opinion.
then other people are saying, musicis haram full stop and anyone who differes is ignorant of the truth.
Interseting to see this. In the sense, does this mean people on here are calling some scholars ignorant?
And it is sad that is has got to this stage, althought the poster actually did state he wasnt discussing whether it was allowed or not just wanted to know why.
Jee, plus, I have posted before, with regards to that hadeeth, I cant remember anyone replying to my post.
Last edited by Umar001; 06-27-2006 at 11:39 AM.
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