Comments on 'Alleged internal contradictions' thread

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · 02-03-2005

This thread contains comments on the work [being] done in this thread:
http://www.islamicboard.com/showthread.php?t=839

Useful information that could be added to the article is welcome.

**WHARFE** · 06-28-2005

Can somebody please explain the concept of abrogation in Islam? If verse A
is better than B it follows that B is worse than A ... How could they both
be perfect? Did God make a mistake ? Where the Qur'an says "None can
change the words of God", does this include God himself ? WHY did God
change some of the verses, why not just send the final version in the first
place ?

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...coring=d&hl=en

**Bittersteel** · 06-29-2005

what are these abrogations of the Quran?Heck I don't know what abrogation means.

Does this abrogation include the Satanic Verses?

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · 06-29-2005

Originally Posted by Abdul Aziz

what are these abrogations of the Quran?Heck I don't know what abrogation means.

Abrogation means Allah swt sends a certain ruling for a specific situation, and then after the situation of the Muslims changed, Allah SWT sent another ruling for the new situation, so the previous ruling is no longer followed.

Does this abrogation include the Satanic Verses?

Satanic verses have been dealt with in another thread in this forum. The story is fabricated.

**Bittersteel** · 06-29-2005

oh thanks.And what were these abrogations in the prophet's time?

**WHARFE** · 07-02-2005

Keeping these points in perspective, let us take a look at one of the examples abrogation in the Qur'an. Al-Anfaal 8: 65 says:

Prophet, rouse these believers to fight [the rejecters and remember that] if there are ten steadfast [believers,] they shall overpower a hundred [rejecters] and if there are a hundred [steadfast believers,] they shall overpower a thousand of those, who have rejected....

This verse, promises God's help for the believers over the rejecters of the Prophet (pbuh). As a corollary of the promise entailed in this verse, it was the responsibility of the companions of the Prophet (pbuh) to fight the rejecters, even under circumstances where their power ratio was one-to-ten, as compared to their enemies.

However, subsequently, when a vast area of the Arabian Peninsula accepted Islam and a number of comparatively weak people joined its ranks, the foregoing verse and the responsibility entailed in it was abrogated. In the Qur'an, the abrogating verse is placed immediately after the referred verse. Al-Anfaal 8: 66 reads:

Now, God has reduced [the responsibility] upon you. As He is aware that [now] there are weak among you. Therefore, [now] if there are a hundred steadfast among you, they shall overpower two hundred [rejecters] and if there are a thousand [steadfast] among you, they shall overpower two thousand, with the permission of God. Indeed, God is with the steadfast.

These verses are representative of the concept of abrogation in the Qur'an.

http://www.understanding-islam.com/r...estion&qid=921

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · 07-02-2005

There are some mistakes in the above link. If anyone wants to discuss abrogation they can make a thread in basics of Islam. This thread is only for refuting alleged internal contradictions.