What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island? (OP)
This is just meant as an honest question, no offense intended but...
I do have to ask you guys why are you coming to my Island and my hometown for?
The reasons for asking this will become clear so please bear with me...
This is the mosque that your fellow correligionaires whom most are from Palestine and Jordan and whom for the most part speak neither English nor Spanish have built using money from Saudi Arabia and a few well stablsihed wealthy palestinians such as the owner of El Amal Pharmacies Saleh Yassin.
Now the question is since they do not speak either of the main languages and can't hold jobs why are they here for? Why are the Saudis and the few Wealthy palestinians paying not just for the building of mosques but for the housing, food etc. of muslims brought from the aforementioned places?
Now that the reasons behind me asking are clear can anyone here give an answer?
Thx...
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
My guess (and purely mine)
Those people dont speak english or spanish..which means they only speak arabic...Saudi people also speak arabic...besides, saudi supports Palestine financially
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by ABWAN
My guess (and purely mine)
Those people dont speak english or spanish..which means they only speak arabic...Saudi people also speak arabic...besides, saudi supports Palestine financially
This is how people see it I guess
Muslims -> Arabic -> suspicious -> Saudi -> Usama
Sad but true. Refusal to accept or understand; results in fear and that leads to assumptions to justify the fear.
I guess nobody every thought that because many Palestinians came to PR in 1958 and now have their own business that they can bring over family that they have never seen and now help them achieve freedom and share in the family businesses.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
Islam in Puerto Rico: 2004 official data estimated there are 5,091 Muslims in Puerto Rico, representing about 0.13 percent of the population, although many Muslims on the island claim the numbers are much larger. The early Muslim community largely consisted of Palestinians who arrived between 1958 and 1962. At the time, the vast majority of Puerto Rico's Muslims lived in Río Piedras – a crowded suburb of San Juan – where they operated restaurants, jewelry stores and clothing outlets. For years a storefront mosque on Calle Padre Colón served the entire community. Today there are mosques and Islamic Centers in Aguadilla, San Juan, Hatillo, Ponce, Arecibo, and Río Piedras. The American Muslim Association of North America (AMANA) also has an office in Cayey. Similar to their counterparts in the United States (particularly New York), large numbers of indigenous Puerto Ricans are becoming interested in Islam.
may Allah (swt) guide these interesting group of people to Islam Insha-allah
Dude I dare you to show me just how many converts to Islam hAnd pleaave they gotten in the Island in at least the last 3 years and I guarantee you will be hard pressed to find more than 2!
And plz do not use Wikipedia as a refference because that article is so full of exagerations is not even funny! I mean 5091 muslims in the Island I can categorically tell you that at best they number between 2000 to 3000 tops and 3000 is probably stretching it quite a bit.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by SoyBoricua
Dude I dare you to show me just how many converts to Islam hAnd pleaave they gotten in the Island in at least the last 3 years and I guarantee you will be hard pressed to find more than 2!
And plz do not use Wikipedia as a refference because that article is so full of exagerations is not even funny! I mean 5091 muslims in the Island I can categorically tell you that at best they number between 2000 to 3000 tops and 3000 is probably stretching it quite a bit.
Your scare tactics will not work with me...
Which makes it even more logical that the Mosque in Ponce is not very active and has been closed for 2 weeks. Each of the 6 mosques here in Austin has nearly 2,000 members Each and Austin has a minimum of 6,000 Muslims, probably closer to 12,000. And we are just one small city in Texas.
All of Puerto Rico does not need more than one Mosque at this time. Perhaps with prayer Puerto Rico can be saved and there will be more of a need for Mosques.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
Sad but true. Refusal to accept or understand; results in fear and that leads to assumptions to justify the fear.
I guess nobody every thought that because many Palestinians came to PR in 1958 and now have their own business that they can bring over family that they have never seen and now help them achieve freedom and share in the family businesses.
Reality is FEAR SELLS.... its amazing to see some people claiming to have gotten away from fear of God, only to find themself in fear of life and terror! ABC had a program about terror, where they said the average no. of people who die from hitting a deer is far more than terror attacks! They showed one guy who sold his wealthy car dealership business in manhattan right after 9/11 and move with his family to Florida.. He is scared to take flights, so he drives with his family to NY!!!
Soy, regarding the wikipedia article, I believe you can edit the article if you have proof that the article is incorrect.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
Do you think thats a good question to ask here and what makes you think we can do anything about it and if you dont feel comfortable with where their at then why dont you move and get far away from them as you can cause youre not the one who brought them here nor can you kick them out so if you cant beat it then be it....Hope you can resolve your problem with the government not with us.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by edil
Do you think thats a good question to ask here and what makes you think we can do anything about it and if you dont feel comfortable with where their at then why dont you move and get far away from them as you can cause youre not the one who brought them here nor can you kick them out so if you cant beat it then be it....Hope you can resolve your problem with the government not with us.
Well in favor of this board as opposed to many other Muslim boards I've been most of the posters (not all though) have been extremely well manered in all the other ones the response I would get would have been something along the lines of "Were going to conquer and kill you all dirty Kuffar... "
In regards to why ask this here the answer is easy! You are muslims yourselves and as such who else can be qualified if not people that practice the same religion as they do...
In regards to moving out hah! If you think you muslims are going to kick me and and all my fellow Boricuas out of our country all I have to say is you are sorely mistaken!
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
In regards to why ask this here the answer is easy! You are Muslims yourselves and as such who else can be qualified if not people that practice the same religion as they do...
At the moment I do not think we have a single Palestinian member. so we do not have any views as to what the Palestinian thoughts are.
Islam has no ordained clergy. we have no central figure that dictates protocol to us. Our Religion is based simply what we read in the Qur'an and the Hadith.
No person has authority between each Muslim and Allah(swt)
I know what they will do as Muslims but I do not know what they will do as Palestinians.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by SoyBoricua
Your scare tactics will not work with me...
now hold on chuck i wasn't trying to scare you! , did you just expose yourself?
let's be honest, the real reason you made this topic has nothing to do with the muslims fleeing from oppression to your kind people who accepted them, it has nothing to do with the muslims who have business connections in Jeddah, it has nothing to do with that mosque that according to you looks like a fortress
it's those heavy metal doors you fear it's the realization that your compatriots might be one day walking in and out with Allah (swt) book in their hearts
it's ok friend i understand continue
Last edited by AHMED_GUREY; 03-05-2007 at 06:38 AM.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
Oh yeah its the immigrants going mad and commiting all the crimes, My Dad's been a criminal since he came. What a bunch of bananas, my Paps has been working from day one. We immigrants have done so much for your country and contributed to the economy greatly.
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
You should move to Poland. They're 95% Roman Catholic.... I've spoken to alot of Poles and they've said they're shocked at the amount ethnics there are and that it's rare in Poland. One of a few countries that keeps borders closed!
LOL how many poles are coming to the UK?
I always read in newpapers how the poles are taking the jobs lol.
It's not that Poland keep it's borders closed it's cuz is it soo poor no1 want's to go to it.
The Uk had it's time sucking all the money out of other country now it's our time. We will go back then we are done sucking the last £ out of this country.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
Look at it this way, your ancestors must have been immigrants some time or another. I mean, there have been several periods in British history where there have been invaders and settlers, such as the Anglo Saxons, Celts, Normans, Romans...Your ancestors must have been among them, they can't have been here since the start of time.
And yes, I've studied your country's history very well...Just doing my part to clean the plate which I eat out of. Are you going to throw me out?
Oh, and England, I think you forgot to address this point....It's something to think about!
To everyone else in here, the thread starter is just another guy who is too scared to do anything in real life, hence he is resulting to ranting on a forum...Like he said before he can't go to the police or anything because he would probably get looked at in a funny way for acting paranoid.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
now hold on chuck i wasn't trying to scare you! , did you just expose yourself?
let's be honest, the real reason you made this topic has nothing to do with the muslims fleeing from oppression to your kind people who accepted them, it has nothing to do with the muslims who have business connections in Jeddah, it has nothing to do with that mosque that according to you looks like a fortress
it's those heavy metal doors you fear it's the realization that your compatriots might be one day walking in and out with Allah (swt) book in their hearts
it's ok friend i understand continue
Dream on chuck dream on! We Puertoricans are on to you and your tactics of moving in and then claiming dominance over all when sufficient strenght in numbers exist. We saw it happened in Lebanon decades ago, we see it happening in the Philiphines, Thailand and even the U.K where is no secret that your fellow muslims seek to impose sharia law on the country despite it being overwhelmingly Secular/Christian etc...
Do not confuse our kindness and friendliness with weakness as you have in those other countries who opened their doors to you only to see their own citizens blown up, beheaded, murdered etc. in the name of your religion...
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by SoyBoricua
Dream on chuck dream on! We Puertoricans are on to you and your tactics of moving in and then claiming dominance over all when sufficient strenght in numbers exist. We saw it happened in Lebanon decades ago, we see it happening in the Philiphines, Thailand and even the U.K where is no secret that your fellow muslims seek to impose sharia law on the country despite it being overwhelmingly Secular/Christian etc...
Do not confuse our kindness and friendliness with weakness as you have in those other countries who opened their doors to you only to see their own citizens blown up, beheaded, murdered etc. in the name of your religion...
Peace,
Fear is a vicious enemy to all of mankind. Irrational fear is even more frightening. Going back into our American History Muslims have been here since the days of Cristobal Colon, There were Muslims aboard the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria.
Some of the Early settlers of Puerto Rico from the conquistadors were Muslim. There have been Muslims in Hispanola since the Days of the Conquistadors. You probably grew up living next door to Muslims without knowing it.
Islam has spread way beyound the Arabian Peninsula so that today over 85% of the worlds Muslims are not Arabic. We are all flavors. I am basically a Lithuanian that was born in Hartford, Connecticut. The members of this Forum are an odd mixture, we are Australian, Malaysian, American, Canadian, German, Finnish, Pakastani, Somalian, British, and many other things, but we are Muslim.
The country with worlds largest Muslim Population is Indonesia, There is a very large number in the US and Mexico. We are in all of the European countries. Although we all have different color skin, hair and eye colorings we are all Muslims and we are world wide.
Now if your fears were true and valid, your words:
Do not confuse our kindness and friendliness with weakness as you have in those other countries who opened their doors to you only to see their own citizens blown up, beheaded, murdered etc. in the name of your religion.
Would be daily occurances world wide in every Country and State.
If you don't listen to us, at least listen to the wise words of FDR "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."
There is no reason for the world to fear Muslims. The Truth is we honestly are a religion of Peace, no matter what the world's media has shown.
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by AmarFaisal
Soy started this argument for the sake of an argument!!
I agree with that. But, I think it has given all of us some food for thought so we can get a real understanding of the misconceptions many people have towards us.
with that said and since the only place this thread can go is downhill. Only one final word needs to be said
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by SoyBoricua
Dream on chuck dream on! We Puertoricans are on to you and your tactics of moving in and then claiming dominance over all when sufficient strenght in numbers exist. We saw it happened in Lebanon decades ago, we see it happening in the Philiphines, Thailand and even the U.K where is no secret that your fellow muslims seek to impose sharia law on the country despite it being overwhelmingly Secular/Christian etc...
Do not confuse our kindness and friendliness with weakness as you have in those other countries who opened their doors to you only to see their own citizens blown up, beheaded, murdered etc. in the name of your religion...
I can't understand as to why u think it's ok for u to speak on behalf of everyone. Get one thing clear u never asked these ppl to come, therefore there is nothing you can do to kick them out. I'm sorry to say but i find u to be a bit sad, who for the sake of attention would randomly drop in such a question that has nothing to do with us. What makes you think we're answerable to u? These matters are handled based on advance govermental levels, not on some random individuals opinion.
If something bothers you, one does something about it, but since you're only in the position to pose an opinion and not act, then how about accepting it and moving on?:X
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
Peace,
Fear is a vicious enemy to all of mankind. Irrational fear is even more frightening. Going back into our American History Muslims have been here since the days of Cristobal Colon, There were Muslims aboard the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria.
Some of the Early settlers of Puerto Rico from the conquistadors were Muslim. There have been Muslims in Hispanola since the Days of the Conquistadors. You probably grew up living next door to Muslims without knowing it.
Prove it! I dare you to prove one single muslim conquistador!
You see I do know plenty about history and I know for a fact that when Columbus was commisioned by Spain to find a new Route to the Indies which led to the discovery of this hemisphere, Spain had freed themselves of Moorish Islamic rule. The moors as the muslims in Spain where called back then would have never been welcome on board any spanish vessel at that time...
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
Islam has spread way beyound the Arabian Peninsula so that today over 85% of the worlds Muslims are not Arabic. We are all flavors. I am basically a Lithuanian that was born in Hartford, Connecticut. The members of this Forum are an odd mixture, we are Australian, Malaysian, American, Canadian, German, Finnish, Pakastani, Somalian, British, and many other things, but we are Muslim.
The country with worlds largest Muslim Population is Indonesia, There is a very large number in the US and Mexico. We are in all of the European countries. Although we all have different color skin, hair and eye colorings we are all Muslims and we are world wide.
Most muslims in the U.S are in fact located in Deaborn Michigan and most of them are very much of Arab decendency. As Mexico is concerned there's a significant mulsim population that is relegated mostly to a group of natives that used to follow a very legalist pseudochristian cult...
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
Now if your fears were true and valid, your words:
Do not confuse our kindness and friendliness with weakness as you have in those other countries who opened their doors to you only to see their own citizens blown up, beheaded, murdered etc. in the name of your religion.
Would be daily occurances world wide in every Country and State.
If you don't listen to us, at least listen to the wise words of FDR "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."
There is no reason for the world to fear Muslims. The Truth is we honestly are a religion of Peace, no matter what the world's media has shown.
Oh but they are they very much are! Now thankfully there are muslims who do recognize their religion is in trouble and are trying to do something about it such as Kamal Nawash and his Free Muslims Coalition organization...
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What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island? (OP)
Re: What are your fellow muslims exactly doing in my Island?
now hold on chuck i wasn't trying to scare you! , did you just expose yourself? 
continue
Subhanallah 
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These matters are handled based on advance govermental levels, not on some random individuals opinion. 
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