From the western point of views that ISLAM is a threat to Western World. A threat to all evils - commercial evils, business evils, economic evils and also political evils, which are found freely in so called our developed western nations:
1. Islam prohibits alcohol - thus it will stop all business relating to alcohol [Industry, Bars, Night Clubs, etc] - Billion dollars of business will be closed.
2. Islam prohibits free sex, prostitutions - again billion dollars of sex, and prostitutes industries will be closed
3. Islam prohibits commercialization of women - thus billion dollars of putting naked or half naked women in advertisements will be lost.
4. Islam prohibits interest in Banking - thus all Financial Institutions will be closed and change to Islamic Banking Systems.
5. Islam prohibits injustice - thus the whole legal systems of western world need to be changed - Lawyer Firms will be closed.
6.Islam prohibits terrorisms and war - thus billion dollars of defense industries will be closed.
7. Islam prohibits rocks dancing - thus billion dollars music /rock festivals will be closed.
8. Islam prohibits gambling - thus billion dollars casinos will be closed.
9. Islam prohibits free sex - thus billion dollars porno sex films industry will be closed.
10. Islam prohibits abuse of drugs - thus billion dollars of illegal drugs business will be lost.
Thus ISLAM is a threat, and by whatever means MUST be stopped to reach the western world. For example the slaughtering of 7 million muslims in Spain is a good example. Even Islam in Spain at that time was very much advanced, in knowledge, sciences, industries - our Christian European was in the dark age, yet ISLAM must be stopped.
Logically and scientifically, I strongly feel, and others too, that whatever ISLAM prohibits are good to mankind. BUT! BUT!
SURELY WITH THE PRESENT BUSINESS WORLD WITH FULL OF EVILS - WHICH BRING IN BILLION OF DOLLARS WILL NOT LIKE ISLAM. ALL EFFORTS MUST BE CARRIED OUT TO STOP ISLAM.
Generally, these are the feelings the West hold against Islam.
Wilberhum, NO, you are getting it alllll wrong... Bro we need to follow each other to get at some point. Hostile attitude could only make matters worse.
Wilberhum, NO, you are getting it alllll wrong... Bro we need to follow each other to get at some point. Hostile attitude could only make matters worse.
I could not agree more. I try to limit my "Hostile Attitudes" to those that have "Hostile Attitudes".
Currently, not historically, Islam seams to be the only religion where there is no shortage of people that think there religion gives them the right to kill people because of there's.
Can you explain that?
Wilberhum, anybody who has a Christian name but is not a practicing Christian or he does not believes in Christianity or has nothing to do with Christianity, can you call him a Christian???
Islam stirctly has forbidden "suicide" and God has said that anyone should not kill himself with his own hands cause this life he is having is a gift and given by me (God), so according to what I understand anybody who goes against this cannot be considered a Moslem.
Violent or terrorism has always been synonymous with Jews, than it was labelled that since Jews were Anti-Christ they have no right to live and before going on for any Crusading expeditions, the pogroms started with putting Jews to sword, that HAD a reason and a valid one so propagrated by the Popes, Christians were scared of Jewish spirituality.
Now, in these modern times, things are the same except for the Jews have been replaced by Moslems.
This is backed by wonderfully quick "global village" media. Again, the Christians are scared of "spirituality" but this time this is Moslem Spirituality, thats the reason they are trying to turn a Hero into a Zero.
Silkworm,
It is obvious that "Your Version" of Islam in not buried in hate and intolerance.
The problem lies in that there are many "Versions" of Islam.
Many of them do teach hate and intolerance.
Wilberhum, anybody who has a Christian name but is not a practicing Christian or he does not believes in Christianity or has nothing to do with Christianity, can you call him a Christian???
Islam stirctly has forbidden "suicide" and God has said that anyone should not kill himself with his own hands cause this life he is having is a gift and given by me (God), so according to what I understand anybody who goes against this cannot be considered a Moslem.
Violent or terrorism has always been synonymous with Jews, than it was labelled that since Jews were Anti-Christ they have no right to live and before going on for any Crusading expeditions, the pogroms started with putting Jews to sword, that HAD a reason and a valid one so propagrated by the Popes, Christians were scared of Jewish spirituality.
Now, in these modern times, things are the same except for the Jews have been replaced by Moslems.
This is backed by wonderfully quick "global village" media. Again, the Christians are scared of "spirituality" but this time this is Moslem Spirituality, thats the reason they are trying to turn a Hero into a Zero.
I realize you addressed this to Wilberhum, but it has aroused my curiosity.
Wilberhum, anybody who has a Christian name but is not a practicing Christian or he does not believes in Christianity or has nothing to do with Christianity, can you call him a Christian???
I wonder what would be considered a Christian name? Most English names are based on the Anglo-Saxon language and are not related to any particular religion. Most of the names are based on where a person's ancestors lived or what their occupation or status was.
Very similar with Russian names.
Most Christians in the Arabic speaking denominations have Arabic names.
Back in my younger days when I was Roman Catholic, my name was sort of frowned upon because I was not named after a Catholic Saint. My Scot/English name, which came about because nobody could pronounce or spell what my name was supposed to be, was not considered to be a "Proper" Catholic name.
With the exception of some Catholics I do not believe any Christian denominations consider any name to be Christian or non-Christian.
Now I am wondering what names could be considered Christian names?
My name Woodrow simply means "To live by the forest or protector of the Forest" it was a common title given to Game wardens.
Exactly, thats what we want, for instance when we do not criticize or despice your "half-naked" ladies strolling on the beaches,
I'm sure you will in a minute...
you shouldn't also be despising our ladies who are properly dressed
[Subjective value-judgement.]
and are not "offering" the forbidden fruit to every tom, dick and harry that comes in the way.
...there we go!
Please try to understand: just because a woman is not fully covered besides face and hands, that does not mean she is offering herself sexually to anyone passing by. If a populus thinks that revealing anything beyond the face and hands is too much of a temptation, I think the sexual attitudes of the men in such a society should be seriously questioned.
Ya just have to wonder why god ever let the "Great Satan" come to power.
It isn't hard to understand. The Muslims have left Islam, overall. They don't practise it. Muslims countries are lead based on a system other than the Shariah. This is a very serious crime, and if the conditions are met, would render the person a non-Muslim, even though he considers himself Muslim. The people generally aren't better. Major sins are common place. Unfortunately the 'bad; Muslim greatly out way the 'good' Muslims.
The Muslim is punished in this life. They are trying to find success by abandoning their religion. They will never find success through this. Thus they are punished by failure (and other means) in this life. Hopefully the punishment will be an expiation for their sins and so they won't need to be punished additionally in the next life.
The opposite applies to non-Muslims. They are rewarded in this life and punished in the next life. Thus you see the good living condition and the like, in general, the success, etc, is a result of the good that they do, they are rewarded in this life, and will be punished upon resurrection.
It isn't hard to understand. The Muslims have left Islam, overall. They don't practise it. Muslims countries are lead based on a system other than the Shariah. This is a very serious crime, and if the conditions are met, would render the person a non-Muslim, even though he considers himself Muslim. The people generally aren't better. Major sins are common place. Unfortunately the 'bad; Muslim greatly out way the 'good' Muslims.
The Muslim is punished in this life. They are trying to find success by abandoning their religion. They will never find success through this. Thus they are punished by failure (and other means) in this life. Hopefully the punishment will be an expiation for their sins and so they won't need to be punished additionally in the next life.
The opposite applies to non-Muslims. They are rewarded in this life and punished in the next life. Thus you see the good living condition and the like, in general, the success, etc, is a result of the good that they do, they are rewarded in this life, and will be punished upon resurrection.
You too must not have been waring your tinfoil hat.
If you are any place to Yellowstone National Park you are part of the "Great Satan".
It isn't hard to understand. The Muslims have left Islam, overall. They don't practise it. Muslims countries are lead based on a system other than the Shariah. This is a very serious crime, and if the conditions are met, would render the person a non-Muslim, even though he considers himself Muslim. The people generally aren't better. Major sins are common place. Unfortunately the 'bad; Muslim greatly out way the 'good' Muslims.
The Muslim is punished in this life. They are trying to find success by abandoning their religion. They will never find success through this. Thus they are punished by failure (and other means) in this life. Hopefully the punishment will be an expiation for their sins and so they won't need to be punished additionally in the next life.
The opposite applies to non-Muslims. They are rewarded in this life and punished in the next life. Thus you see the good living condition and the like, in general, the success, etc, is a result of the good that they do, they are rewarded in this life, and will be punished upon resurrection.
yes..you are totally right..ALLAH says in qoran that he will give men for what he workes,he gives according to how much men work...but if they work for this world he gives them(money,wealth,child etc),but he gives jannah who works for the other world inshallah..
If you are any place to Yellowstone National Park you are part of the "Great Satan".
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* ouch * , this must hurt
I wasn't going to reply to this, but I can't let that comment go past.
Anyone who knows how to use google should recognise that it would be impossible for me to be really "Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park", considering that thermus aquaticus is a micro-organism that lives in near-boiling water.
The opposite applies to non-Muslims. They are rewarded in this life and punished in the next life. Thus you see the good living condition and the like, in general, the success, etc, is a result of the good that they do, they are rewarded in this life, and will be punished upon resurrection.
I'm happy with that, seeing as there is no afterlife...
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Excuse me? What is that meant to mean? I just explained to you something about my religion, the least you could do is give a comprehensible reply.
...should recognise that it would be impossible for me to be really "Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park", considering that thermus aquaticus is a micro-organism that lives in near-boiling water.
Ouch, indeed.
no kidding ??? I swear, I didn't know that.
Im Always Right,Its Like,When Im Right,Im Right,And When Im Wrong,I Could've Been Right,So Im Still Right,'Cause I Could've Been Wrong!
Well i think the prophets(pbuh) were mostly living in the east and so islam coudn't get that much passed here but we should be happy and thankful to Allah(Swt) because at least their are mosques and some muslims and that some of the cities or countries do not even allow that:eek:
If you want to know what are the fundaments and heritage of Western World, you should read Shakespeare, listen to Beethoven, see Rembrandt's paintings.....etc
Each of these things are against Islam and so Muslims will never study them.
When Europe becomes Islamic all the great paintings of history must be destroyed because the great bulk of them have people or Christianity as their subjects.
I rememeber the Afghani Muslims destroying the great statues in the name of Islam. The statues of Europe are next.
Each of these things are against Islam and so Muslims will never study them.
When Europe becomes Islamic all the great paintings of history must be destroyed because the great bulk of them have people or Christianity as their subjects.
I rememeber the Afghani Muslims destroying the great statues in the name of Islam. The statues of Europe are next.
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I think you will find that some Muslims have studied them as subjects. An academic study is not necessarily for the purpose of enjoyment or for agreement. Understanding and a desire to understand does not require agreement.
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